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P2P File Sharing Ruining Physical Piracy Business

TorrentFreak has a short post up talking with a former physical data pirate, who sold his wares in flea markets and made buckets of money in the 90s. By the end of the last decade, his money flow had dried up, and he places the blame squarely on the shoulders of P2P file sharing. "Tony is very clear about why his rags to riches story has gone back to rags again. 'File-sharing, P2P - call it what you like. When you asked a customer why he wasn't buying anything, 9 times out of 10 it was BitTorrent this, LimeWire that ...' P2P is a very powerful machine and although Tony could see that his operation was feeling its effects, he admits that he sat back and did nothing about it and consequently, his business has paid the ultimate price. Other industries affected by P2P should take note: Don't be a Tony. Overhaul your business model. Quickly." One would imagine overseas media sellers will have similar issues, as P2P networks become more common outside of the Western world.

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  1. when by mastershake_phd · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will people learn that piracy takes money from the pockets of hard working people like Tony?

    1. Re:when by elronxenu · · Score: 5, Funny
      Next up ... legitimate pirates (like Tony) join forces with the MPAA and RIAA to battle the scourge of P2P.

  2. Re:Nonsense. by franksands · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have. I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil. We have dozens of "physical pirates", and I think they are doing pretty well, considering they are open for years. And I'm not talking about Mr. Tony with the CDs on the side walk, I'm talking about whole BUILDINGS with pirate stores, that sells movies and games as they are launched in the US, and sometimes sooner. Ask anyone who lives in Sao Paulo and they will tell you the same thing.

  3. Re:I think there is another morale to this story by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly. I advocated Linux during the early years and my Karma soared. Now I am in a position to say that Vista is good with out caring what the mods think.

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  4. Re:Nonsense. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bingo. I think this is a big part of it. Physical piracy was a bigger industry back when DVDs were more expensive. Anyone remember when those things first came out? They were downright extortionate. When a legit copy ran $25 at Suncoast, a $5 pirate copy looked pretty attractive. But when you can get a wide selection of movies at Walmart for under $10, there's not a whole lot of room for pirates.

    Black markets thrive on high markups. When the whitemarket's profit margins collapse, the blackmarket gets squeezed out (well, not hardly -- they move on to other things where the markups are still high).

    I suspect that DVD videos would be a tough sell in the First World (probably less so in other parts of the world, where the cost of a movie relative to other goods, like food, is much higher), however, higher-margin information products like expensive software (Photoshop, Logic, etc.) will still be widely pirated and counterfeited, in both electronic/P2P and physical forms.

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  5. Re:Allofmp3 is almost in a league of its own. by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The black/grey market rarely has the white beat on so many fronts at once. Usually, in order to get the cheap price, you need to compromise on quality or convenience (need to go to sketchy part of town / flea market, etc.), so that it's only a certain segment of consumers (usually, those who place a low value on their time) who get the pirated version.

    I'm not certain where you live, though based on your attitude I will surmise you live somewhere in the developed world.

    There are places in the world where the price of software is quite disproportionate - for instance, here in Croatia Photoshop costs about two or three monthly salaries IIRC. And even in the richer parts of the world, there is quite a lot of software which costs a great deal of money, and is still relatively easy to find in the gray/black market.

    If the price of the software runs up to several hundreds or even thousands of dollars, and the probability of you getting caught is slim, buying from a pirate is putting a rather high value on your time - it doesn't take more than a few hours, and the savings are vast.

    But then, what do I know... from where I stand, capitalism seems to be based on the principle of getting something for nothing as much and as often as you can.

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