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Microsoft Segments Linux "Personas"

RJ2770 writes "Microsoft has started a project for their partners to help identify the personas of different Linux users in an attempt to sway them toward Microsoft products. In addition to the web site there is a podcast on the market research behind the project, again directed at Microsoft's selling partners."

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  1. Re:The gloves are off by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant."

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  2. Re:Is this a hoax? by whiteknight31 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well the copyright date is from 2006 and look at this Whois result.

    http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=http%3A%2F%2F www.linuxpersonas.com&tld=com

  3. Microsoft v Linux trademark by homer_s · · Score: 2, Informative

    The word 'Microsoft' has the ® symbol following it while 'Linux' does not. Isn't the word 'Linux' copyrighted too?

    1. Re:Microsoft v Linux trademark by rehabdoll · · Score: 4, Informative

      Words are not copyrighted. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds though.

    2. Re:Microsoft v Linux trademark by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
      The word 'Microsoft' has the ® symbol following it while 'Linux' does not. Isn't the word 'Linux' copyrighted too?

      How many mistakes in that sentence?

      1) © is the Copyright symbol (clue: it begins with "C"), ® means "Registered" trademark.
      2)Trademark is not copyright.
      3)You can't "copyright" a single word.

      But yes, "Linux" is a trademark, owned by Linus Torvalds. While you can use a trademark in an editorial way, as in "Linuxsucks", when you're a competitor using it in a commercial campaign I think you might be in trouble, unless you are a billion dollar corporation and can piss on the law at will.

  4. Re:The gloves are off by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft has been taking Linux seriously for some time. That's why they underwrote SCO's bullshit action against IBM. Quite frankly, I wouldn't want to be the guy reporting to Ballmer "They reason they like Linux is because they think you're a lying, thieving fuck with anger issues."

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  5. Missing segment by elronxenu · · Score: 5, Informative
    I think their percentages are wrong.

    They forgot to list the segment of the population who hate Microsoft passionately - due to their business practices, their monopoly, their DRM, their lack of ethics, their EULA which forces you to give up your freedom of speech, their proprietary file formats, their Microsoft Word specifically, and perhaps more reasons.

    And then there are the people who believe that Linux has superior design, that the user is more in control of what the computer does, that linux is more virus-resistant, easier to work with and so on.

    I think Microsoft should divide all the "win over" percentages on their website by 10.

  6. WHOIS linuxpersonas.com by pembo13 · · Score: 1, Informative
    It seems this was registered by one "Stacy Munnn" of "Munn Multimedia", on contract to Microsoft (so says her resume - http://www.stacymunn.com/resume/index.htm) I'm sure all you slash dotters can WHOIS, but here you go:

    Whois Output for: linuxpersonas.com

    Domain Name Owner:
    munnmultimedia
    318 First Ave S
    Apt 501
    Seattle, WA 98104
    US

    Administrative Contact:
    Munn, Stacy
    munnmultimedia
    318 First Ave S
    Apt 501
    Seattle, WA 98104, US
    Phone: 2063555916
    Email: stacymunn@gmail.com

    Technical Contact:
    Munn, Stacy
    munnmultimedia
    318 First Ave S
    Apt 501
    Seattle, WA 98104, US
    Phone: 2063555916
    Email: stacymunn@gmail.com

    Billing Contact:
    Munn, Stacy
    munnmultimedia
    318 First Ave S
    Apt 501
    Seattle, WA 98104, US
    Phone: 2063555916
    Email: stacymunn@gmail.com

    Record Information:
    Domain Record Created: May 16, 2006
    Domain Record Updated: September 14, 2006
    Domain Record Expires: May 16, 2007

    DNS Information:
    Name Server: dom1.omnis.com
    Name Server: dom2.omnis.com
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  7. Re:Domain WHOIS by 8-bitDesigner · · Score: 2, Informative

    What? I'm a professional web designer, and we get hired out to do these things all the time. Not all of Microsoft's PR is going to be internal, these things do get outsourced, you know.

  8. Re:I ddin't see my persona in here by DeadChobi · · Score: 3, Informative

    You've just outlined the major reason that scientific programming is not done under Windows. When you're relying on your system to stay online for 3 days while it's compiling or running a simulation, you don't use something that crashes all the time or will restart itself or prompts you for updates, or may even interrupt whatever it is you're doing. The reason my school has a *nix lab is because we use it for scientific programming. It's not something the IT department seems to care about. We wouldn't even think of writing anything truly important for Windows.

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  9. Summary of the discussion so far... by Pseudonym · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those who don't want to read all the comments, here's the summary:

    *obscene gesture* Classify THIS!
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  10. Re:Linux in the domain? by gbobeck · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, Linux is a registered trademark of LT (see http://www.linuxmark.org/ )

    However, according to the FAQ at linuxmark.org,

    I am the registered owner of an internet domain which includes the term "Linux." Do I need a sublicense?

    The Linux Sublicense Agreement applies only to trademarks, but we recognize that internet domains are sometimes used as trademarks. If you are using your domain name as a trademark, then you will need a sublicense from LMI. For help determining whether your domain is a trademark, see the questions and answers at the top of this FAQ page.
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  11. Summary by Ankur+Dave · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those too lazy to watch the presentation, here are the personas:

    Linux Experimenter Characteristics: "Tester" of Linux, willing to try Microsoft, Windows is the default choice for servers.
    Sales pitch: don't experiment, use Windows, it's tried and true. Market Follower Characteristics: Prefer Microsoft, risk-averse, don't really like Linux.
    Sales pitch: Windows is the best in the enterprise. Look beyond initial cost to maintenance and reliability. Application Driven Characteristics: Like Linux because it works and it's reliable.
    Sales pitch: more productivity and lower TCO with Windows. Linux Aficionado Characteristics: Believe Linux is just better.
    Sales pitch: lower TCO, more reliable, remember to avoid Microsoft vs Open Source. UNIX Transitioner Characteristics: Wants to take UNIX apps to Linux, not familiar with Windows.
    Sales pitch: IIS is more secure, better TCO.
  12. Re:That's why Microsoft will win. by Ankur+Dave · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, the OSS world does have use cases. For example, see Ubuntu's use cases:

  13. Re:It's not that difficult to figure out... by Technician · · Score: 2, Informative

    You bought a product for use with 1 liscense at a time.

    Absolutely correct. A monopoly can set those license terms. There is no negotiation, no user specifications to be met by the vendor.

    Now there is an alternative. I can have a site license for my software. It's just not from Microsoft.

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  14. Re:Let's see, there's the guy who murdered his wif by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hans has not yet been convicted.

    Sure, his wife is missing, but if there is no body then it's not clear that there has been a murder and even if there has been, there's no evidence to connect him to the deed.

    LK

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  15. Re:Let's see, there's the guy who murdered his wif by at_slashdot · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hans Reiser?

    First of all he was not convicted of anything yet, so it would be polite to consider him innocent until proved guilty.
    Second, he develops a file system not "Linux", ReiserFS could be very well used in other OSes including Windows.

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  16. Re:But that's not how business works. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's all about support. People aren't buying Linux software per se, they're buying enterprise support agreements. (Obviously, these are companies buying these, not people at home.) When they need help configuring their new RHEL system, they call up Red Hat and get help. If there's a bug, they call RH. When vulnerabilities are found in the software, RH provides updates to fix them. And the whole thing is packaged in a way that's convenient for corporate IT departments to deploy and maintain.

    What's more, a typical RHEL or SLES distribution has a lot more software than just the "OS": it also contains a web server, databases, office software, etc. MS has these too, but it sells them as separate components, and then charges you extra for support.