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Microsoft Segments Linux "Personas"

RJ2770 writes "Microsoft has started a project for their partners to help identify the personas of different Linux users in an attempt to sway them toward Microsoft products. In addition to the web site there is a podcast on the market research behind the project, again directed at Microsoft's selling partners."

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  1. The gloves are off by The+Bungi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I expect that for the next few weeks the majority of the "Linux community" will be on the floor foaming and making lame jokes about Bob and flying chairs.

    Microsoft is taking you seriously now - you better start doing the same thing.

    1. Re:The gloves are off by jlarocco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft is taking you seriously now - you better start doing the same thing.

      Eh, fuck 'em. You can't stop people from working on software in their free time and giving it away.

      Not everyone cares about "beating" Microsoft.

    2. Re:The gloves are off by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or lose. In which case you usually don't have anything witty to say, which is why that wisdom is often ignored.

  2. Re:Is this a hoax? by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS should really start by figuring out what is useful for their users, then for Mac/Linux/BSD/something else users want.

    I personally wonder at what point "innovation" was defined as get in the way of the two functions all ones users need. Just make an OS which is fast/efficient and doesn't throw up cryptic error messages regularly and I will be reasonably happy with whatever else goes on.

  3. It's not that difficult to figure out... by FlyByPC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux users are, among other things:

    * People who like knowing what their computer is up to (kind of like motorheads for the information age);
    * People who don't like M$ deciding how their computers will work;
    * People who don't want to spend money when a more reliable solution exists for Free;
    * People who believe that competition is a Good Thing (tm);
    * People who resent being called pirates (at least without being able to make others walk the plank!)

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    1. Re:It's not that difficult to figure out... by Technician · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People who resent being called pirates

      They are broad with the term. If I retire my Dell PC and scrap it and put the XP OS on a white box replacement, I have Pirated XP.

      If I buy a Copy of MS Office for my personal use and put in on my laptop and desktop, I am a Pirate.

      A personal use site license is lacking in their EULA. I don't have either of those problems with any of my Linux installations.

      I can pick up a CD, Play it in my CD player, Rip it and play it on my PC, and put it on my MP3 player for personal use. MS made sure their products won't do that. Office won't run live on the CD. It fails WGA if installed on your PC and laptop. It's broken. Linux is not broken out of the box. The applications work if installed on your desktop and a laptop.

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    2. Re:It's not that difficult to figure out... by Skreems · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A few small components in an otherwise open and free system isn't the end of the world. If they went the other way and refused to use those things, you'd be calling them fanatics.

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  4. Missing persona by jmorris42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is a Microsoft sales troll supposed to do about the missing entries:

    FSF True believer: If it ain't Free it isn't an option.

    Disgusted Ex Microsoft customer: Experienced Microsoft products since they were in ROM chips and hasn't found one yet that wasn't a roach motel. Doesn't plan on wasting money on more of the crap until they manage to get several in a row right... i.e. never.

    Political MS hater: Hates evil corporations in general, believes Microsoft more evil than Exxon-Mobil, AT&T, IBM or the MPAA. Believes Microsoft is an unrepentant monopolist hellbent on enslaving the world.

    Then there is me, a little bit of all three. :) Come on, come try and sell me some Windows Server 2003 licenses.

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  5. I think I can help by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's my demographic.

    I'm a computer user who likes my machines to be as crash-free as possible. Failing that, I'd like access to the source code so I can fix whatever problems I perceive, rather than waiting for someone else to do it.

    Ok - that's my "Linux Persona". Now let's see you cater to me.

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  6. Re:Maybe we just don't like you... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For me it's more basic than that. I recently got a job and was plunged back into the world of Windows servers, and am now dealing with licensing issues whose only solution will be dropping money into Microsoft's pocket. I'm gonna be blunt, a lot of IT types like Linux because we don't have to worry about it. Add another user, workstation, server, whatever, and I don't have to plop down cash, or worse, have to go to my manager hat in hand and beg for more gruel to shove down Microsoft's mouth.

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  7. April Fools? by Psx29 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this a joke or is microsoft really that desperate???

  8. Re:winning against linux? by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Damn, this entire campaign sounds like one fucking sad attempt at trolling.

    Really? Because for years, I've been seeing posts and articles on slashdot that talk in terms of winning people over from MS to Linux. Unless that continually played tune is also trolling, then I don't think that MS trying to understand the different stripes of people that are (or might consider) using Linux is anything other than basic market research. Not all of the Ubuntu crowd may consider themselves to be "winning" someone away from Mandriva, but I'm sure that language gets used sometimes. Just like people in the Firefox camp often talk about winning a larger share of browser users away from MS.

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  9. Re:Shooting themselves in the foot by PinkPanther · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not sure if "enemy" is the right word to describe a (hopefully) potential customer.

    This site is a sales tool to help sales folks penetrate into different environments where Linux has some level of establishment. Based on a set of simplistic characteristics (how ingrained is Linux? how risk adverse is the customer? are they frothing-at-the-mouth OSS-kool-aid punch drunks?), the tool gives generalizations as to the type, size and length of each opportunity across 5 broad categories.

    This type of tool is great for sales folks trying to get their heads around something they don't really understand. Right off certain approaches with broad strokes, and push the blue kool-aid instead.

    Where a lot of this falls down is the reliance of already-proven sketchy evidence (Get The Facts, TCO studies, etc...), and some overly simplistic anecdotal evidence ("Customers are already switching from Apache/Linux to IIS6/Windows" ; "Customers are finding that development with ASP.NET is quicker and easier" ; ...). The reason that the sales cycle is longer for some of the types is that either they are rabid OSS drones (medium-length cycle; note to sales folks - do a political end-run around the geek) or they actually have successful experience with the alternative platforms (longest cycle; note to sales folks - it is going to be a hard fight and a lot of the "sales tools" relied on for other profiles likely will fail here).

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  10. But that's not how business works. by wasted · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If MS made an OS that was fast, efficient, stable, and supported the hardware most folks desired, there would be no reason for customers to buy the next OS when it came out. So, to support their business model, each OS has to be slightly behind for its time, either by speed, stability, or hardware support, so consumers have a reason to buy the next OS (or PC with the new OS) when it comes out.

    Or I could have this all wrong, and be corrected below.

  11. Re:Windows user personas anybody? by ultracool · · Score: 3, Insightful
    1. The Gamer - Windows is a requirement to play most games, so it's the default OS of choice.

    2. Your Parents - they don't really know much about computers and will use whatever the computer they bought came with.

    3. Market Follower - M$ bitches.

    4. The Windows Enthusiast - these people are extremely rare. They actively believe that M$ products are superior to anything else out there and believe that if something is free, there must be something wrong with it.

    5. Scientists, Engineers, Professionals - use Windows due to vital software existing only on that platform.

  12. Re:Shooting themselves in the foot by killjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The more they attack linux and open source the more make it legitimate in the eyes of the business users. They will never win that war.

    I suppose they tried ignoring it and it didn't go away so now there are no other options but still.

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  13. Re:Targeted survey by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where a lot of this falls down is the reliance of already-proven sketchy evidence (Get The Facts, TCO studies, etc...), and some overly simplistic anecdotal evidence ("Customers are already switching from Apache/Linux to IIS6/Windows" ; "Customers are finding that development with ASP.NET is quicker and easier" ; ...).

    I looked at all the personas and found every one of them fell in the range of 25-28 servers with the exception of the Unix one at 31 servers. Looks like a limited market segment survey to me. The segmemt missing is the SOHO or Home Office where computing is dependant on applications such as Quicken and an Office product and web browser. TCO is a big deciding factor. Instead of upgrading from MS office 97 and such, we built a white box computer and put Ubuntu on it. As a bonus, for our graphics arts we use the Gimp instead of Photoshop. We don't need another copy of AV software. The software savings has paid for the hardware. To share files, we picked up a NAS using Linux. It uses an encrypted Reiser filesystem and we have put all our printers on stand alone prinservers. The NAS and Printservers are all Linux. Other than some drastic price changes, there is little MS can do to get us to be an all MS office. We can't justify the cost. One copy of MS office is expensive. 4 copies (main office, kids PC, & 2 laptops is a show stopper. Linux does the job with either ABI Word or Open Office and doesn't break the budget. It also works with newer MS office files sent to us. Office 97 doesn't display them properly if at all.

    When the adoption rate reaches critical mass where I can pick up a copy of Turbo Tax for Linux and Quicken will be the day MS stock has a bad day. There isn't many markets with more price concious buyers than the SOHO market.

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  14. Is Microsoft Really That Insecure? by FranklinDelanoBluth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do not quite understand Microsoft's strategy here, for many reasons, which I'll try to enumerate logically. I am not trying to troll. I am trying to be objective, and when I do criticize Microsoft I do so purely academically, so please do not turn this into a flame war.

    1. Desktop market share: Microsoft has >90% of the desktop market, a number that I would guess might be higher in the business community (i.e. their strangle-hold on commodity computing). I really cannot imagine this slipping much more than 5% due to various factors: the high cost and lack of hardware options with Apple, the ease of use problems with Linux and Unix variants, the legacy DOS/Win9*/XP application base, employee familiarity with Windows, etc. As much as many may complain about Vista's shortcomings, there are really no suitable alternatives. Though many servers may be switching to Linux, I do not think that this will affect the desktop market, especially since there are many solutions for making Linux servers work with Windows desktops. Microsoft's bread and butter is not threatened, why the hard sell for a much smaller market?
    2. Weak server solutions: I aim for objectivity here, so please do not misinterpret me as a troll. Microsoft offers weak server products. Some of this may be attributed to its rebuffing of existing standards implementing all their server solutions with their closed, proprietary protocols (e.g. URIs vs. CIFS URIs, TCP/IP vs. NetBEUI, DNS vs WINS, Back slash vs. Forward slash, etc.). Not only does this ensure that their solutions will not work with those provided by any other vendor (which is a legitimate problem when one wants a service that Microsoft does not offer) but leads to new buggy code/half-baked standards/security holes as they reinvent the wheel.
      Further, the main buyers and users in this segment are not average users who need to use computers for nothing more than word processing, email, and web. They are power users who are well aware of the strengths and limitations provided by the different systems. They know first hand the problems of using Microsoft server solutions.
      If they really want to capture this smaller market (again, I am not sure why they would except for the pursuit of total monopoly), it seems that they need more than a new sell technique. Instead, they should develop their new programs and services to inter-operate with existing standards and systems. As they develop server solutions for power users, they'll win over the server crowd with their commitment to excellent products, not some new half-hearted add campaign, which many (such as the /. crowd) will see through.
    3. Virulently pro-OSS/anti-MSFT market: This is a different aspect of the previous point. Whereas Microsoft has objectively weak server solutions, there is a rather subjective opposition to Microsoft as a "Big, Evil Corporation" (TM). I am not commenting on whether this feeling may be right/wrong, but it is something they will to overcome (and I would argue with more than a selling campaign). Some moves of good faith (e.g. less restrictive computing, less aggressive anti-OSS talk from the CEO, etc.), to which Microsoft seems firmly opposed, could help "win the hearts and minds" of the server crowd much better than strongly stereotyped sell tactics for the Linux crowd.

    I know I do not have all the answers, but I think that Microsoft is getting everything wrong here. It seems that capturing the server market has a very small return when compared to the desktop market. Additionally, the cost of "doing it right" with inter-operability-centered design of new products while maintaining backwards compatibility would greatly reduce margin (e.g. look what happened with all the grand ideas of Vista). Nevertheless, if Microsoft is determined to win this market, they need to do so with more steps of good faith and less aggressive talk about intellectual property (happy, willing customers are

  15. Re:Shooting themselves in the foot by VE3MTM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mohandas Ghandi

    This article is a sign we're deep in the fighting stage now.

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