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Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Beta Released
vivaoporto writes "The Beta version of the popular Linux distribution, Ubuntu 7.04, was released today. Codenamed Feisty Fawn, the CD images can be downloaded from the Canonical Servers, and the final version is due to be released next month. Get it while it's hot! Read more about it on the official wiki."
Perhaps you should try making everybody use mirrors?
Here's the list from the announcement:
Europe:
http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Sweden)
http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Spain)
http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (The Netherlands)
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/7.04 (The Netherlands)
http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Ireland)
http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Italy)
http://pl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Poland)
http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Germany)
http://bg.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Bulgaria)
Australia:
http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04
Africa:
http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (South Africa)
Rest of the world:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 (Great Britain)
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When most people refer to an Ubuntu release, they elide the noun. People running 6.10 usually refer to it as simply Edgy, not Edgy Eft. The previous release is commonly called Dapper, not Dapper Drake. So you can just call this one Feisty, or Ubuntu 7.04 if you prefer.
I don't know about Ubuntu, but I assume the following applies to it as well: with popular distros like Fedora, all you need to is enter the irc chatroom (irc://freenode/fedora) from any machine with internet access (it need not be the one you're installing Linux on) and ask your questions, clearly , but politely, and you're likely to get as much hand holding as is possible (limited to things like time of day since many people sleep)
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Please, If you are new to linux don't run the beta version, Use 6.10 its much better and more supported. The beta is not intended for mainstream use. In the #ubuntu channel on freenode there have been people coming in asking questions about Feisty Fawn for months. Those people belong in #ubuntu+1. The beta releases are not supported by the mainstream support, don't install this and expect to be fully supported.
Kubuntu 7.04
http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
I did a dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty about three days ago. Nothing has gone downhill and things have only gotten better. I have had a few problems, though I write them off as transitional issues. After all, it was pre-beta software.
My biggest problem has been with the nvidia kernel module. For those who don't know, you can make sure this is installed properly by doing:
sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx
This is all well and good but for some reason the nvidia kernel module was just randomly disappearing! No joke. I ended up using module-assistant (sudo it) to build my own nvidia module, which worked great, and got everything working again.
There is a new restricted module manager which explicitly informs you that you are using restricted modules, which may not be supported. The system may have made it easy for you to install binary drivers, but it makes damned sure that you know you're using them and what the downside is.
The network-manager gains zeroconf support in this release, but there's still no WPA options in the network-manager. I thought that was coming in this release? I have network-manager-gnome installed, but it doesn't look anything like this. So I don't know WTF is going on. And I'm in the middle of installing a bunch of packages so I can't find out at this moment, either. The default driver may not support WPA, I wouldn't know, but my network-manager applet still is a pale ghost of what I'm seeing in screenshots.
In general, what most beta users of Feisty are going to notice in comparison to Edgy is graphical. Various theme elements have changed slightly. The biggest change, of course, is the official inclusion of binary drivers, which is much easier to get working. You won't need envy to get those nvidia drivers working any more (assuming you were unable or unwilling to do the install manually, envy seems to have been the most common way to install 'em.) Envy, of course, does not support Feisty.
Early adopters will note that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both still lack Feisty support. Way to test and be ahead of the curve, guys. But of course that's not Ubuntu's fault.
This is a lot less painless than my last experience, attempting to upgrade a somewhat tweaked dapper to edgy. This system is no less tweaked, but the dist-upgrade went fine.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
A) 6.06 is the long term support (LTS) release, meaning that it will be good for a couple years to come
B) After the last upgrade fiasco, the Ubuntu devs are putting special care to make sure the update tool works this time, so people can just install 6.06 and then use the update manager to update to 7.04 if they decide they want it.
C) They won't ship CDs of another release until the next LTS release, so there won't be any 7.04 CDs either.
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[from the AHD]I wouldn't run the 64 bit version of any OS unless you really had a reason. Theres no 64 bit flash for any platform, no wine and plenty of other misc problems. Unless you have a good reason (> 4gb ram) then you're only going to run into headaches.
I did an upgrade from edgy to feisty while it was very much still a moving target, days prior to the beta release and there's been packages flapping every which way - and the upgrade STILL appears to have worked with the possible exception of gnome-network-manager. I'm fairly confident that by official release time they will have it pretty well worked out. But the beta is working so well for me right now that I would just go ahead and go to the beta right away.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
You should try MEPIS instead of Kubuntu, it's also based on Ubuntu and uses a lot of Ubuntu packages but it's much better (as far as KDE environment goes). It's now in the release candidate stage for 6.5, so the new version should be out any day. It also has Beryl, codecs and video drivers installed by out of the box, no need for Automatix and such.
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This Ubuntu release 7.04 boots faster and is snappier than the previous 6.10. It no longer requires prelinking to increase speed.
From the ubuntu forums:
"UPDATE 1/2/07: Prelink is no longer necessary in Feisty. Feisty uses a new linking mechanism called DT_GNU_HASH which dramatically speeds up the linking process without the need for continuously running the prelink program."
Another great improvement is hardware (esp. wireless and graphics) support.
Now thats progress, each release faster and better than the last.
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There is a slight performance benifit to running 64 bit, but it's not worth worrying about. It can be as much as 15 - 20% in rigged benchmarks, and even higher in 64-bit specific code (you don't have any), but it's more like 3% for using real-world apps. Compared to the hassle of running non-native code, the minor performance gain is rarely worth it.
If you're going to be messing with Wine, it's definitely not worth screwing around with the 64 bit version of Ubuntu. It's possible to get flash working, but 32 bit windows code really wants to run in 32 bit mode. It really wants to run on Windows, but if you're determined to run it on Linux you're better off keeping your silly tasks to just "I'm running code on the wrong OS" rather than "I'm running code on the wrong OS and the wrong CPU architecture".
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Get an nVidia-based card and use the nVidia proprietary drivers. Once you install them, setting up dual monitors is as easy as adding one line to xorg.conf, or turning it on with nvidia-xconfig
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Just to clarify, the upgrade process cannot skip interim releases. That is, to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04, the recommended and supported path is to go from 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
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I'm quite new to Linux, but decided to try out Ubuntu. I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy). I dual boot, and have been for about a year now because I have to use Windows mainly, for school.
I found the ubuntu forums to be very helpful, and I also found the ubuntu guide (www.ubuntuguide.org) to be extremely helpful for the basic things that a new user would run into.
As noted in these comments, you will need to get to know the console (command line) more so than needed in Windows. However, I have now found that I prefer it for many things. The other thing you'll need to get used to is not having root user privileges for everything you do, meaning if you want to do something not mundane (and sometimes even mundane things), you'll need to give yourself root privileges for that action (which in ubuntu is most easily done by typing "sudo" in the console before your command).
I feel like I've become real familiar with how everything works by trying to add fancy things to the user interface (like a rotating cube desktop). Working on those fancy things, which is sometimes difficult (but easier now than it used to be) gave me the understanding I need such that doing all the basic stuff is now absolutely no problem. The forums and Ubuntu guide got me there.
I will note, though, it is not like windows. It can't be--you just can't have it be as secure as Ubuntu and as easy to use as Windows (I'm sure that's why Windows is so hole-ridden; it was all in the name of useability). On the other hand, Linux really is a lot easier to use than it used to be, has good support, and can do things Windows can't (I really think my rotating cube desktop is awesome).
Great, can they fix what they broke during my last upgrade? I haven't been able to get to my
That is why I always suggest people not to upgrade unless they have a specific reason to; if what you have works the way you want it to, run with it.
My best recommendation would to do a new install. That would (obviously) be faster than trying to fix the set up as it is now. If I were you, I would put the entire OS including /home (maybe partition so that you have 9gig to /, 1 gig swap, 10 gig /home) on your first drive (20 gig should be more than enough), and then during the install/partitioning step just mount the other HD in /media/storage and keep all your big files (movies and such) there. I'm on the Ubuntuforums if I can help you more just drop me a private message. It might take me a couple days but I'll answer.
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I was wondering: Can you actually sell ubuntu CDs that you download?
I know how the GPL works, but in the case of Redhat, you have e.g. CentOS which is their enterprise product stripped away for trademarked logos and stuff in order to be able to redistribute it. So I was wondering if perhaps the same would go for selling downloaded ubuntu CDs, that you're not allowed if you don't strip away that kind of content first?
(That's probably a tough question, I'll take guessing and hearsay a plenty.)
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Firstly, restricted drivers have always been a part of ubuntu, and when those are installed, it should "just work"; if not, it is a bug. This is perhaps better than Windows, as you need no trip to nividia.com
Secondly, yes, you can forego the restricted package, download the nvidia driver, and run the install script. This is what I do, and it always works without hassle. I just hit enter a few times and I'm done.
But really it comes down to what you want to do. If you want to run Windows because it will "just work" and/or you can make it "just work" within your comfort zone, that's fine. If you want to run Linux because it will "just work" and/or you can make it "just work", that's also fine. Some people choose the first, some the second. The better choice is the one that makes you happiest, isn't it?
I was able to install Edgy on my MBP with only slight trickery as described here. The LiveCD booted with no problems at all. The only shortcoming is no wireless; trying to use ndiswrapper produced kernel panics on boot.
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It's simply that the move from dapper->edgy was painful. Ubuntu made it _clear_ before hand that edgy was an "edgy" release. There were going to be lots of changes and no guarantees for some things. Edgy made a lot of progress, but it's "new" school. Upstart, UUIDs for fstab, etc, were huge changes.
If you do a fresh install of feisty, you'll be just fine. Dualmonitor support takes a little (I mean a little) file editing if you have nvidia.
Why are you complaining about Ubuntu when your complaint is with the hardware manufacturer? If you want a usable computer out of the box, then install the VESA driver and be content. But if that's not good enough, and you want all the state of the art features that modern graphics adapters support, then go to the people who write the drivers and demand it.
You may not care WHY not, but you should at least take the time to understand that issues like this are not of Ubuntu's making. This is not about software purity; this is about the intransigence of the people who make the hardware. There are valid historical reasons for that intransigence, but until YOU start aiming your complaints at the people who can actually affect the situation, then you should stick to Windows.
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if you do that on a laptop (Dell Latitude D820 in my case) you might also want to install wmctrl to get back your gnome panels when you come home from work and it puts them on the no longer existing other monitor.. (I'd really like to know why the window coordinates are doubled for the gnome panels..)
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The fact is that breezy to dapper broke mine (and just about anybody who was using RAID) ---> drive ordering changed. Furthermore the bug was known *before* the release [two weeks]. The problem is that they have more strict release schedules rather than the "release when it's ready" viewpoint. This has completely destroyed the reliability of apt dist-upgrade. I simply would *never again* do a dist-upgrade in Ubuntu!
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Nope. Ellipsis is from Greek elleipsis. Elide is from Latin laedere.
Actually, you can patch XP's theme managing file (uxtheme). It isn't bundled with the OS, but all the patcher does is remove the barrier that says only MS certified themes can be used. Sure, it's nowhere near the versatility of Gnome (or KDE I presume), but you aren't restricted to the themes Windows comes with.
One of the options on the very first boot screen for the desktop CD is "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode", and it's intended for exactly this circumstance. This would have saved you manually hacking around with xorg.conf to get to a working desktop initially.
Yes, apparently 32-bit Ubuntu works just fine on x86-64. Personally, I use 64-bit and nspluginwrapper to make 32-bit flash work in the 64-bit browser. It's a bit of a hack, and not totally stable, but definitely works well enough. The one thing that is quite tricky is getting the w32codecs working in 64-bit, you need to install a 32-bit mplayer to work with them.