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Open Office - What's the Downside?

cclangi asks: "I'm a current Microsoft Office user, and I run a small business as a consultant (mining). I've read about Open Office and all the good things about it, but what about the downside? As a small business owner and semi-literate in things computer-ese (as a user, not as a developer or administrator), what support limitations are there for Open Office. I'm particularly interested in/concerned with compatibility of software for reports, spreadsheets and database apps that I might need to send to/receive from clients. As I've said, I've read the good stuff, and 'how easy it is', but what are things I need to be aware of before considering switching completely to Open Office? Comments and experiences would be welcomed." A couple of months ago, OpenOffice advocates had space to sound of on the reasons to switch to OpenOffice. Now, it only seems fair to give the dissenters a place to voice their own reasons. What are the reasons keeping you away from OpenOffice and on your current office suite?

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  1. Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's Microsoft Office compatability isn't perfect, and the other companies I work with send documents created with MS Office.

    1. Re:Simple by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MS Office also is always running in the background, just incase you open up a document. You could do the same with just about any application. Keep it running in the background, and then poof, it starts. Of course, if you rarely used the application, you'd just be wasting memory, but hey, the app looks like it starts fast.

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    2. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And yet, try sending Office files from different version offices, and you have the same issue. That is, you communicate in much lower forms.

  2. Re:A few items.. by SaidinUnleashed · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You use /CLIP ART/ on a fax header page?

    There is absolutely NO reason to use ANY clip art on any sort of business paperwork. Just a company logo, somewhere out of the way. Anything else just makes the document look unprofessional, or worse, trashy.

    Paperwork is not the time to show off the skills you learned in third grade art and drawing class. Fax headers are not a collage. For God's sake, keep them neat and uncluttered so I can figure out why you are faxing me.

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  3. Nothing bad I can think of by disturbedite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i made the switch over 2 years ago and i have to say... i have not found a single drawback. the java thing as a dependency is about the only thing i can think. i made the switch to linux permanently on the desktop (kubuntu) from winxp and i noticed that ooo wasn't that slow on windows (on a relatively older pc [2004]) and i've found that it is MEGA fast on linux. it loads up way faster than m$ office on windows or even, as i said before, ooo on windows. i have only once or twice ran into m$ --> ooo incompatibility afa formatting is concerned. i'm not trying to sound like an ooo fanboy, but i can't think of anything negative in regards to ooo.

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  4. Re:Do you use it on a Macintosh? by 0racle · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Other then a long launch time, I have no problems on NeoOffice. Instead of useless 'it sucks' why not say what you have a problem with.

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  5. Re:spreadsheets by SECProto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly the issue I was going to bring up. When graphing data, it has difficulty/it is impossible to display the equation of a line of best fit, place several sets of data on the same graph, etc.

  6. I don't get why people ask stuff like this by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you're worried if OpenOffice can fit yoru needs then just DOWNLOAD the thing and try it for awhile.

    It's not like it costs anything, or you have to uninstall MS Office to install OpenOffice or some other nonsense.

    Download it, keep MS Office around for awhile as a backup, and start using OpenOffice. Try using it exclusively for a week, or month, or however long until you feel comfortable that it can do all you need it to do. Them, and only then, should you give MS the boot.

    It would be absolutely retarded from a business perspective to proceed any other way - based on anyones advice, no matter how much of an "expert" they claim to be. Just try for yourself - if it fits your needs, great. If it doesn't, you still have MS Office installed, so there is no risk of it hurting your business.

    No one knows your business better than you do. Maybe you have special needs OpenOffice can't meet. Maybe you don't. You won't know until you try it out.

  7. Re:A few items.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like most so-called Linux evangelists, you're not listening. He wants to use clip art and templates. He wants to do exactly what he does with Word. He wants to use Open Office. If Linux wants to convert people to their OS, then FIX IT!

  8. Re:Clip art in fax cover pages by tomhudson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The best reason to use OOo - its NOT Word. Its not supposed to be a Word clone
    Now you're just being silly.

    No, people who insist on "100% has to look the exact same including all the bugs" are being silly. Who cares if your 99-page document takes 98 (or 100) pages in OO? The world would be a better place if most people were forced to use a plain-text editor for a while. It would stop people wasting time doing things like adjusting their margins, font sizes, and line spacing so that they hit the 10 pages required for their homework assignment, for one. Or subjecting people to ridiculous popwerpoint presentations and excel spreadsheets trying to polish a turd of an idea.

    Of course, that would require the average person to be more literate, as well as less susceptible to OST syndrome - "oh - shiny thingee!" ... like that's going to happen ...

  9. Java runtime? by StarKruzr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Java runtime has to load also

    Wait, this is still true? I thought that OO.org hasn't been Java-based since before v1.1.

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  10. Re:How about OOo bugs? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about those wonderful OOo bugs that cause it to totally screw your formatting?
    Never experienced it.

    Randomly deleting document files?
    That's probably a document deleting virus on your computer. OOo doesn't just randomly seek out documents and deletes them. I've certainly never experienced it.

    Missing pasted images?
    I had this when opening a few documents some people made in Microsoft Word (which I rarely ever do). But do images disappear in OOo when you paste them into it? I certainly haven't experienced it.

    Everyone assumes the real problem is just "We need MSOffice people to convert!"
    I don't see why? They seem happy paying for Office. Additionally they don't seem to have a interest in software freedoms etc. They just want something that they feel works for them.

    when it should be "We should actually get our shit working first before we make other people eat it".
    I don't really have any issues with OOo, if I did, I'd try todo something about it.

    I must admit I have taken a liking to Microsoft Office's ribbon UI.

    If I wanted crap like that I'd use Wordperfect.
    Which costs 269.99 USD more.
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  11. Re:A few items.. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have never met anyone who didn't know how to use MS Word (or admitted it, at the very least).
    I have met many people who claimed they knew how to use MS word, but when I saw their documents...
    • No page breaks, just a bunch of CRs to got the next page
    • Not setting the headers under the appropriate header style and then just customizing that... Instead they manually change the font, make it bigger, add bold, underline and type it in caps.
    • Don't let the application word-wrap, instead they hit enter when they get to the end of the line.
    • Just do something with some elements todo something like tables, but when you look at the document, they some how made it a picture...
    Do I think they can do the same crap on OpenOffice? Yes.
    Will they have a issue at first? Yes, because OOo Writer doesn't look and behave exactly like Microsoft Word.
    Will they complain they don't like it? Probably, because it's different and they prefer the behavior they know.

    TODAY, Microsoft office is probably the best office suite.
    I have to acknowledge the UI and behaviour of Microsoft Office is certainly superior to other office suits.

    However, that said -- I am not very impressed with the compatability Microsoft Office has with it's own documents between different computers and different versions of Office.

    I also find it a little obscure that people complain so loudly about slight formatting issues and things that occur on OpenOffice with documents from Microsoft Office when Microsoft Office itself can't get it right.
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  12. Re:Clip art in fax cover pages by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1, Insightful

    At the end of the day it's about file formats. People need to be able to read MS Word and Excel documents accurately
    I'm still waiting for the day I can redistribute .doc files and they'll look the same between last version's version of Microsoft office and current. So far, I have formatting issues between Office 2003, Mac's Office 2004 and Office 2007.

    Yes Word and Excel can be used to create some abominations (happily I have no experience of powerpoint), but if you're a small company you need to be compatible
    I agree, one should choose the best application or applications (multiple versions of Office) for compatability if your business absolutely relies on it.
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  13. Re:why calc for statistics? by belmolis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Statistics and spreadsheet usage are sufficiently different that even if you are familiar with Excel or Calc as spreadsheets, that in itself doesn't yield familiarity with the statistical functions. R is not that different from other programs for doing statistics and scientific graphics, so if people have any sort of background in those areas, they shouldn't need to learn a lot to use R. Are intro stat courses using Excel? I find that hard to believe given the criticism I've heard of Excel from statisticians.

  14. Not true and you know it by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is total nonsense FUD and you know it. Of course there is a learning curve - but that's why I said KEEP OFFICE INSTALLED.

    You and I and everyone else knows that 99% of what a business uses office for is not time critical tasks. It is opening .doc files attached to emails, commenting on a report, viewing a chart, adding 1-2 cells to a spreadsheet. The amount of time you design some giant new report or huge Excel 10 workbook large spreadsheet is minimal - you do those things maybe once, twice a month.

    Unless you are a total invalid who does not deserve to be a manager in the first place, you should be able to judge form the first few minutes of trying if this "task" is going to be too hard to accomplish under OpenOffice given it's time constraints. If you have a report due tomorrow, have nothing done, and don't have time to screw around with OO.org writer - then do it in Word. Whose stopping you? You can try OO.org later, when you have more time.

    If you're too afraid to risk ANYTHING with your business, you are not going to innovate, and your business will end up failing. Innovation is the root of success for all businesses. Why would you not want to be innovative with your Office package - something you use every day?

    I mean - say I came to your office and said "Hey - I can tell you a way to cut 100% off your photocopier costs by using this new model. I will bring the new model into your office as a free no-obligation trial. You can use it as long as you want. When you feel it is OK andyour workers have learned the new functionality and are comfortable, you can get rid of your old one - keep the new one for free".

    What manager would not take that offer? Why then do they not do the same with Office software?