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MS No Cathedral, Open Source No Bazaar?

Posted by kdawson on from the says-the-high-priest dept.

AlexGr sends us to InternetNews.com for an account of a Microsoft VP demonstrating Microsoft's ASP.NET AJAX product running on Ubuntu at AJAXWorld. In his earlier keynote, Brad Abrams had declared that, when it comes to AJAX, Microsoft is not the cathedral and open source isn't really a bazaar. He noted that ASP.NET AJAX is available under Microsoft's permissive license with full source code. "The Web is built on open standards and we at Microsoft believe that we have to enable those open standards," Abrams said.

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  1. Re:In a weird way, it works both ways by Score+Whore · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Blah blah blah. What point is it you are arguing? OWA is an AJAX application. It was the first AJAX application. Go start some investigation at wikipedia. The first sentence of the history (skipping the bit about who coined the term) is:

    Although the term "Ajax" was coined in 2005, most of the technologies that enable Ajax started a decade earlier with Microsoft's initiatives in developing Remote Scripting.


    Does it make your ass fizz and foam painfully to hear that Microsoft created something that gives you a boner? Is that why you're so rabidly in denial of the truth? Unless there is something like that, all your revisionist fiction is hard to explain.
  2. Re:Microsoft spokespeople are LIARS by The+Bungi · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Everytime a Microsoft individual opens his mouth - in public, on a blog, wherever - he is a LIAR.

    Wow. What does EVERYONE at Microsoft gain by "lying"? In this particular case, it's not like they're selling Atlas to the Rails project or anything like that. What exactly is this man lying about?

    The Microsoft shills babble about XHTTPRequest [...] The whole notion lay fallow until OSS developed it.

    So what you're saying instead is that you and the flocktards have decided to take credit for something they didn't do now? Flowery phrases notwithstanding ("lay fallow"? WTF?) while Microsoft did produce the first real "AJAX" application (OWA), it was Google's use of XMLHTTP that caused the explosion in these types of applications, not something "OSS" developed. Please, I'd love for you to prove me wrong.

    There are tons of OSS AJAX toolkits around. Who cares about Microsoft's "permissive license" version?

    Well, if you're using ASP.NET then it's pretty useful. I'd say it's probably not if you're using Rails or Mason. But I suspect either the submitter got it wrong with the angle or you just misunderstood - probably intentionally so you could use that "lay fallow" phrase - what the point of the article was.