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RIAA Receives Stern Letter, Folds

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "In SONY BMG v. Merchant, in California, the defendant's lawyer wrote the RIAA a rather stern letter recounting how weak the RIAA's evidence is, referring to the deposition of the RIAA's expert witness (see Slashdot commentary), and threatening a malicious prosecution lawsuit. The very same day the RIAA put its tail between its legs and dropped the case, filing a Notice of Voluntary Dismissal. About an hour earlier NYCL had termed the letter a 'model letter'; maybe he was right."

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  1. itsatrap by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The RIAA are doing these lawsuits with terrible evidence to show that they are not "sufficiently protected" by civil law. This can only help them as they continue to lobby congress for new criminal copyright infringement laws.

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    1. Re:itsatrap by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You think the fact that they bring frivolous lawsuits against helpless people is going to help them with Congress?

      I respectfully disagree.

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    2. Re:itsatrap by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, and as soon as its a truely criminal issue, they have the resources of the government behind them. The entire concept of IP will be turned on its head.

      Only problem is that it turns into 'reasoable doubt' by a jury to get a conviction, a much harder task then in civil cases.

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    3. Re:itsatrap by finkployd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You think congress cares about people?

      Finkployd

    4. Re:itsatrap by supersat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      5 of the largest 50? According to what list?

      Warner Music Group is #542 in the Fortune 1000. The rest of the big four are either totally foreign (e.g. EMI, based in London), or owned by foreign companies (e.g. Sony BMG and Universal Music Group).

      Besides, we already have the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act, and I can't recall any P2P prosecutions based on it. I'm not too surprised either, given that the authorities likely have bigger problems to tackle, and the standard of proof is much high in a criminal case ("beyond a reasonable doubt"). The RIAA is already having trouble proving their cases with the lower, civil standard.

    5. Re:itsatrap by billcopc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Congress doesn't need to side with anything. The RIAA doesn't win many lawsuits, it just threatens people into settling for $3750. It's very much a poker bluff, they have no hand to play (no evidence), but they intimidate the defendants into folding to "cut their losses". The fact that lawyers get paid even if they lose is a contributing factor to this abuse, as few people can afford to front the retainer even if they have a chance of winning their attorney fees back in the counter-claim.

      I like analogies, so here's a colorful one for everyone: The RIAA is like the schoolyard bully. Either you give him your lunch money and go without food for a day, or you take a chance and try to pound him into submission, but you'll get beat up pretty bad too, and if you lose you'll have to pay anyway.

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    6. Re:itsatrap by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The RIAA is absolutely a schoolyard bully.

      I disagree with your outlook.

      Here is mine.

      Rule Number 1: All bullies are also cowards.

      Rule Number 2: The only way to stop bullies is to beat them.

      Rule Number 3: When you draw blood they run away because of Rule Number 1.

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    7. Re:itsatrap by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Listen to what these guys are saying, Mr. Beckerman. When the MPAA tried to push the "superdmca" bill here in TN, one of the most egregious provisions was that people who were caught with unauthorized devices connected to their cable service were *required* to be criminally prosecuted. That's the direction this stuff is going: make it a crime so that the government has to foot the bill for what should be a civil matter. These people are slime, as you know better than I do. They will stop at nothing.

      Their reputation in Congress will not go down because of these civil suits. They have enough of Congress on the payroll that reputation doesn't matter.

    8. Re:itsatrap by farker+haiku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say that it is a myth. Bullies may be cowards but they have a very strong interest in not appearing as such. If you chase away a bully you have solved your own problem but the consequences for the bully are much graver - that they'll lose their position of power through fear. Without the fear they risk being attacked by every person they have mistreated and lose their power of intimidation. So in a single case a bully will usually go to extreme lengths to as publicly as possible demonstrate that he is not a coward and that he is willing to go much further than you are.

      Yeah, except that a malicious prosecution lawsuit is more than a bloody nose - it's legal precedent. That means instead of some kids seeing someone fight off the bully, the kid who fights off the bully gets to stain the ground with the bully's blood and forever after celebrate that day as "I defeated a bully day". The RIAA was probably hoping this one would go away... that's the best case scenerio for them.

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  2. What happened here... by Runefox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What happened here was that the RIAA saw a lawyer who not only knew of the RIAA's tactics, but also knew of how little evidence they actually had. Instead of potentially conceding a loss in court that could be used against them in the future, they withdrew their case to avoid a negative stroke on their record. One of the biggest weapons against them right now is to point out prior losses, while one of theirs is to point out prior success in these cases. The more success they have, the more ammunition they have. The more loss they endure, the more ammunition the defendants are given.

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    1. Re:What happened here... by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...The more success they have, the more ammunition they have. The more loss they endure, the more ammunition the defendants are given. The law is not like playing football; nobody counts your wins and losses at the end of the season.
      What matters is can it hold up under appeal? The RIAA doe not want to let an appelate or SCOTUS decicion go against them. Then it affects all cases. They are choosing their battles carefully.
  3. Your Hired by mugnyte · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Well, if anything, this is one strong ad for the law firm. He ties together the CA-storm-on-the-horizon RICO, the MediaSecurity fallibility, the driftnet "Smith"-style instigations, and various CA anti-SLAPP and Rule 408 sentiment. Nicely done sir.

      The RIAA will change nothing with this. However, they are going find folks spending the money (above and beyond settlement) to get press and dismissals, if possible. I believe the tide is turned.

  4. best bit by z3d4r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    imo the best bit is actually split into two places in the letter. first theres this part:

    'Mr. Merchant has and had no more duty to respond to attempts to "sell" him one of your clients' boilerplate, non-negotiable $3750 settlements than he has to return cold calls from pushy life insurance salespeople.'

    this is followed later by:

    'My clients are willing to accept dismissal of the litigation in exchange for

    1. Payment of Mr. Merchant's reasonable fees and costs including retainer of $6,880.25. The payment represents good value considering what your own firm's billings will have been to date and use of those billing records as the loadstar rate for Mr. Merchant's award. See Capitol Record v. Foster, Western Dist. Okla No. 5:04-cv-1569-W, Docment 182 filed 3-15-07).'

    you gotta love how it says they wont pay the riaa's protection money..., and then asks the riaa to pay them twice as much.

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  5. Re:hang on - *without* prejudice? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the real world a lawyer has to try to get the case shut down at the earliest possible juncture. There is no guarantee of getting attorneys fees later. The idea is to win, and win as fast as possible. Mr. Ledford did the right thing. And accomplished a great result.

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  6. Re:The silver bullet? by westlake · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Is this letter and letters like it the silver bullet that stops an RIAA lawsuit?

    You win some, you lose some.

    Posters here respond to the handful of stories that show the rights' agencies at their most vulnerable. But there is no running tally of the thousands - tens of thousands - of settlements which are paid out without much argument or fuss.

    You may learn how to win your case here - but you won't learn how to lose your case here.

    You might find a lawyer willing to chance an aggressive - and costly defense.

    You might be willing to commit to two years of litigation. You might become the next poster child for the EFF. You might recover your costs. You might win the tri-state lottery.

    More likely you will resign yourself to a schedule of monthly payments and a diet of mac and cheese. Only 1% of federal civil cases end a bench or jury verdict - which means you can forget about jury nullification. You will never get that far.

  7. Re:Awesome lawyer by ShaunC · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I concur, the letter is a work of art, even with its various typos. (I sort of wish that Mr. Ledford had waited for the staff-reviewed copy, and posted that, but the last thing I'm going to do is critique him at this point.) My favorite excerpt is as follows:

    Procedurally, we need to address how best to move the case to the Fresno Branch so you can enjoy our new Courthouse and avoid Judge Levi's wrath for filing in the wrong court.
    You want pwnage, that's it.

    Here is an attorney who not only is familiar with and sees through the RIAA's shotgun tactics, and even refers to them as such in his draft, he is admonishing the opposing counsel in beautifully crafted language. While the written words offer to assist said counsel in resolving a filing mistake, a very clear and very different message is conveyed. Mr. Ledford has just told the RIAA to go fuck their collective selves, and he appears to have the case law to back it up (IANAL, and I'm definitely not licensed to practice in California, so that is only my interpretation). He knows he's right, he knows that the RIAA is not willing to appear in court for a showdown after the issues that he's cited - inappropriate venue, lack of probable cause, history of discredited experts, etc. - and he's finally revealed himself as the man with the balls to make the play.

    The entire missive can be summed up from a geek's standpoint in eleven characters: "YHBT. HAND."

    I don't know whether or not the Merchant family has actually fronted $6,880.25 for the research that culminated in this letter, and I suspect that either settlement or judgement will negate the fees, but those dollars are worth their weight in gold. I've followed the entire RIAA spectacle with mildly detached interest since they first started filing lawsuits, and to be quite frank, this is the most damning coffin-nail yet.

    A model letter, indeed.
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  8. Re:Yay by cyphercell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "getting a rich guy out of trouble"
    You're right he's getting a rich guy out of trouble.

    He's also making it simpler for those of lesser standing to take the same course. He made it abundantly clear that there was lots of money available to throw at the case, but he also made this letter public. The letter itself is clearly based on more than just "money" it's based on what someone with money would spend to fight this case, which is based solely on the legal merit of the case, otherwise the settlement would have been paid or the letter would have been more humble.

    I agree it sucks that a good lawyer costs an arm and a leg. At the same time I'm sure some lawyers enjoy it when they get to affect real justice. Sometimes legal theory works and for that Mr. Merl Ledford III deserves his kudos.

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  9. Re:Can someone explain by fishbowl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >What does that mean? what is it that's "a mid-six to low seven figure piece of computer gear"?

    It means he would be perfectly happy to document that the cost of professional data forensics suitable for litigation purposes, particularly for evidence that may be required for a federal case are quite high, and if the plaintiff's experts show up with no case, they will be paying this bill.

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  10. Re:All about the money by miro+f · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or they could spend the $500 on purchasing the cds instead of pirating... ;)

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