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Apple Delays Leopard to October
SuperMog2002 writes "Apple Insider has the sad news that Mac OS X Leopard has been delayed until October. Apparantly software engineers and QA had to be reassigned to the iPhone in order to get it out on time, costing Leopard its release at WWDC. For now the original press release from Apple can be found on the 'Hot News' part of their site, though Apple did not provide a permanent link to the story. 'While Leopard's features will be complete by June, the Cupertino-based company said it cannot deliver the quality release expected by its customers within that time. Apple now plans to show its developers a near final version of Leopard at the conference, give them a beta copy to take home so they can do their final testing, and ship the software in October.'"
They'd better use this delay to implement a new Finder given how absolutely terrible the current one is.
Quoting the above post:
> > The operating system named after pussies that runs on computers used prodominately by men who love cock.
> Well, I have to admit, my cock has grown on me over time.
Seriously, who the hell modded that informative?!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
No. Absolutely not. Running OS X on anything but an Apple computer will (in all likelihood) never be allowed by Apple. It's been said many times before, but Apple is in the hardware business, not really software. OS X is really there to sell Apple computers, not the other way around. Sure, Apple makes a few bucks releasing a new version and when people upgrade, but by an large the margins are much, much higher on their hardware then software.
Apple has *no* desire to make OS X available on generic machines. Aside from the resulting stability issues due to trying to support 10,000,000 different hardware combinations, it would just cannibalize their existing hardware sales.
Yes, there are hacks out there to let people run OS X on Intel/AMD hardware. No, it's not legal.
Isn't that what applecare is for?? I think that is bound to happen on any system. You would hope less so, however doa is still doa. There are more because there are more peeps who own them.
I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them.
Xgrid. Next question?
I realize this has already been modded flamebait, but I just had to point out that Apple dumped IBM, not the other way around. I challenge anyone to cite a credible source that says otherwise. IBM wouldn't deliver the kind of chips Apple wanted (G5 chips usable in mobile applications) without Apple forking over a substantial amount of money to help IBM finish the development cycle. That's assuming IBM ever made much headway on that effort to begin with.
(In fairness to IBM, they couldn't justify making the G5 a high priority and soak up all the R&D costs to make it low-power and fit within a laptop-appropriate thermal envelope. They couldn't justify that because the volume of systems that Apple ships is simply not large enough for IBM.)
Also, while it's true that Apple shopped around to both AMD and Intel, they never sourced processors from AMD, so it's a bit misleading to say that they ran "to [...] AMD, and then finally Intel."
As for delaying the OS because of the iPhone, I don't see that as a major problem. OS X 10.4 is still competitive with Windows, even Vista. There's no reason to rush Leopard (10.5) to market, and the users wouldn't stand for a rushed OS product since, you know, they tend to rely on the stability of their Macs for productivity and so forth. The company has finite engineering and QA resources, and since they pre-announced the iPhone, the clock is ticking on that product. They don't dare slip the iPhone schedule or the competition will eat their lunch, and the iPhone will be stillborn. The consequences of this logic should be obvious.
As a general rule, the buying public is more tolerant of software delays than hardware delays.
I'm a little concerned that you feel that you are going to be charged $300 (where did you get this price from?) for the OS. Apple has never charged that for an OS (apart from their server software). Besides, you, as a student, are eligble for student discount on all of Apple's products.
The US education price for Single User OSX is $69, for a Family Pack (5), it is $199. Go to the Apple website and check the store.
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and reactions to shock and the researcher says "If I can just control
this one molecule/enzyme/compound I'll stop the whole negative
physiologic cascade of post haemorrhagic shock." Yeah, right."
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I don't want to defend the Finder in 10.4, but the Finder included in 10.0 sucked so much harder than the current version. On a G4, when resizing a "column-view" window, it would only refresh every couple of seconds or so. IIRC, this wasn't fixed until 10.2. There are still large complaints with the Finder (especially the networking one you mentioned) but it is unfair to say there haven't been improvements.
:hint: Get a free developer account from Apple at http://developer.apple.com/
You need it to report OS X/Apple Software bugs anyway.
It is a preview release btw. Don't forget to send the reports and respect Apple NDA.
Well I'd call that a torrent or a river. But even a tame creek needs a paddle if you want to go up it.
Ideally you'd want a paddle either way you go, but at least floating down stream is possible, although somewhat dangerous.
Also sounds like you've never gone tubing. float on a tube with a cooler floating with you and you don't have to paddle or push yourself off rocks or nothing. just drink beer.
obviously you pick a flowing body of water that isn't full of whirlpools and torrents crashing against rocks. pretty much any sort of river that a sane person doesn't feel like they need to wear a helmet and vest for.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Usually about a month to a month and a half out, Apple announces a specific release date for the new OS. Their practice has been to announce, that same day, that anyone who buys a Mac after that day gets the OS upgrade for nominal cost (like $10). You just need to wait for that announcement, which may very well be before or in September for Leopard.
I bought a PowerBook in April 2005, about three weeks before Tiger came out. A five-minute phone call to Apple got me the new OS for ~$10. Being a cheap bastard I then also installed it on the Power Mac G5 I bought two months earlier (which was not eligible for the upgrade).
When Leopard comes out I will mend my felonious ways and buy a family pack...
To be more explicit: you can download Java 6 preview for Mac OS X releases with a free developer account.
Mac Office was - and IS - always ahead of the Windows version. Mac Office was - and is - feature-complete and (in my exprience) full compatible with its most recent Mac equivalent. For f*cks SAKE, it was released on the Mac FIRST. Before Windows ever shipped.
.tla. So even IF a Mac user was smart enough to format a floppy for Windows (or worse, pony up the cash for a DAVE license), they still had to manually pin a .doc onto their Mac Office document for the windows version to read it. I've gone through Hand-hold The Cognitively Impaired User HELL on this point alone at least a dozen times before OS X hit. Combine that with the fact that you can buy/build a basic Data Entry Box that'll run Windows and Excel for half the price of a Mac that'll do the same thing (NOW - more like 4-8x the price back in the day), and you can see where this is going.
.doc I've ever thrown at it.
What killed the Mac in enterprise is interoperability. Mac Office only "sucked" in that respect because it followed MacOS developer guidelines - filetype and creator code in the resource fork, no
Office suite interoperability was hindered more by adherence to platform APIs than anything else - it wasn't until OS X that Apple said "f*ck it, let's ADAPT" and went to great lengths to make interoperating with Windows as much of a non-issue as possible.
The OMFGOFFICE "problem" (which is really one of user education - yourself emphatically included) aside, I'm tickled pink that TextEdit (the Mac equivalent of notepad) can read every
You're not understanding that wild_berry meant "EM64T", err, sorry, "Intel 64" rather than "AMD64", or meant "x86-64" rather than either of them. :-)
Speaking of 64-bit x86, has anybody tested any real-world applications to see whether the extra space taken by 64-bit pointers (and longs) ever outweighs the extra registers you get in 64-bit mode?
Well, sure it was, just like the Commodore PET (a self contained, off-the-shelf computer that had everything you needed to start with) was a product of a company focussed on user experience...
I think actually the PET has a better claim to that. The Apple-II's only "user experience" innovation was the decision by Steve Jobs to put it in a "professional" case. Otherwise it was no less complicated (indeed, in some ways it was worse) than the majority of computers developed beforehand, and it certainly didn't present a significantly better experience than those that came around the same time. Customers even had to open the thing up immediately on buying it to add a third party TV modulator just to get video.
It really wasn't until Lisa that Apple started seriously thinking about "user experience" in any way.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
It's usually not the register width that gives you the boost, but the register count. AMD doubled both the width and the number of general purpose registers when they designed x86_64 (aka AMD64, aka IA32e). Arstechnica has a detailed overview (jump to page 3 for relevant slide and it's accompanying explanation). You are right about the larger pointers being a liability when it comes to memory bandwidth, but the size of your basic C99 "int" remains unchanged. If you want a 64-bit integer, you'll have to ask for a "long int" on x86_64, or a "long long int" on modern i386, or better yet, an "int64_t" on any architecture that supports it.
Not to diss the PMG4, since I've owned several and enjoyed them all, but there are a lot of things you're missing.
1) The first two PMG4 models (Yikes! and Sawtooth) didn't have Gigabit Ethernet. They also had rather weak power supplies that didn't comfortably accomodate significant expansion (upgraded CPU, upgraded video, four drives, etc.)
2) Only the 100MHz-bus AGP PMG4s (Sawtooth and GigE) supported 2GB of RAM, and only 1.5 of it was accessible under OS9. Every other AGP PMG4 capped out at 1.5GB.
3) Only the very last revision or two of the PMG4 had FW800 built-in.
4) I'm pretty sure no PMG4 shipped with USB2.0. Who cares if you have multiple busses if they're all 1.1?
5) In practical terms, the ATV CPU is probably about as fast as a dual-cpu 867MHz PMG4, due to the abysmal FSB of the latter.
6) The later-model PMG4s are still commanding $700-$1K+ with largely stock equipment.
7) The ATV has a decent GPU that is significantly better than anything that shipped with any PMG4. It also has BlueTooth and 802.11a/b/g/n.
8) Based on the above, to match the ATV, you'd need a PMG4 with dual 867s or single 1.4 CPU and a host of upgrades that would probably put you well over $1K (Although you would have much better RAM and HDD capacity as well as an optical drive. The PCI slots would be filled with the upgrades.).
9) Your resultant uber-PMG4 would still be enormous, loud, and energy-hungry compared to the ATV.
Now, of course this isn't quite a valid comparison, because the two systems aren't really designed for the same purposes. But, if you have a need for a very small, very quiet, very energy-efficient computer, that doesn't need a lot of RAM or CPU power, the ATV looks like a winner. Put its capabilities in perspective: you would have sold an organ for it 10 years ago, or willingly paid $1K-$2K five years ago. It's a pretty neat piece of equipment for only $300.
Except it's not phishing when the URL reads: http://www.apple.com/hotnews, and when you get to said URL via a link on www.apple.com. Seriously, though, why try proving it fake? So Leopard is delayed. It's not the end of the world.