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$90,000 103in HDTV

An anonymous reader writes "Found this review of Panasonic's 103in plasma. Not only is the screen itself massive, but the price tag comes close to $100,000! I guess if you can afford a room big enough to house it, you can afford the TV. "

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  1. Commercial Products by redelm · · Score: 3, Informative
    This mostly looks like a commercial product for a convention hall or stadium. There are much bigger ones, usually based on discrete RGB LEDs. One local store has one about 15' (180") diagonal.

    1. Re:Commercial Products by neoform · · Score: 2, Informative

      What a waste.

      You could buy a Texas instruments DLP projector (the types you'll find in new digital movie theaters) for that price, not to mention the size of the screen would be capable of being much larger than 103"..

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  2. rear projection by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 4, Funny

    Really, at that price, getting a $20,000 projector and setting up a rear projection screen system would be better. I mean, you could use the $70,000 saved to buy a handful of Blu-Ray(TM) DVD's!

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    1. Re:rear projection by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 5, Funny

      I mean, you could use the $70,000 saved to buy a handful of Blu-Ray(TM) DVD's!

      Yeah, you could probably get one or two HD-DVDs and then get the change sued off you by the MPAA For watching them.

      I gotta say I like it - not so much because it's big and HD, but because it's unwieldy and thief-proof. Just imagine the poor schmuck who tries to steal it. Score one for Panasonic finally making a common-thief-proof TV. If this baby goes missing you can track down all the professional riggers and crane operators and find it in no time!

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  3. no speakers by maharg · · Score: 4, Funny
    50 grand and it doesn't even come with speakers ? pah !

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    1. Re:no speakers by sarathmenon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't worry, they have a 100 grand speakers to pair along with it.

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    2. Re:no speakers by maharg · · Score: 4, Funny

      .. don't forget the remote, a snip at 10 grand ..

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  4. Dead Pixel! by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Funny

    AAAARGH!

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    1. Re:Dead Pixel! by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      HDTV data only goes up to 1920x1080. Any more pixels than that and you're not adding anything to the picture quality, just duplicating or averaging existing data. A screen this large is simply overkill. Heck, you can get the same visual effect by sitting closer to your 40-inch screen.

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  5. how about an affordable one instead. by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    seriously, the plasma market is starting to remind me of the travel channel's luxury home shows ("more and more americans are buying homes like these".. yeah right)

    how about a bridge in the gap between teeny tiny (and way too expensive for that size), and "OMG XBOX HUEG" (and out of reach of the average person).

    the "cheap" models at walmart start at 900 and go up from there, and if you actually want color fidelity youre looking at a minimum 1500.

    how long have these flat tvs been on the market? i seem to remember them advertised 8 years ago, so where the heck are the AFFORDABLE ones!

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  6. Sad thing ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Funny

    The installers were testing the machine when their union mandated coffee break came up. By the time they punched their clock and returned to work, the test image of "PANASONIC" has been burnt in. So very sad....

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  7. i'm looking forward to the day by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    when you go to radio shack, and for $19.95, you get a can of paint and some sort of gadget. you go home, stick the gadget to the wall (your interface), then paint a rectangular area on the wall next to the gadget. the paint consists of self-aligning chemicals that when dry, creates a television

    it really isn't far fetched nanotechnology, the requisite advances in semiconducting polymers means the concept is not that far off. since they already have electronic paper, liquid crystals displays are well established, and OLEDs are coming on the scene now, technologies getting close to the "paint your own tv" concept, chemically and technically at least, i really don't think this concept is that far off

    think about it: at the factory where they make OLEDs/ liquid crystal displays/ electronic paper, there is a fabrication process. that fabrication process merely assembles the requisite pixels into a proper grid. someone, somewhere, will make this process automatic, like crystallization/ polymerization, so all you need is for it to "dry" after applying it to a flat surface

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    1. Re:i'm looking forward to the day by jamesh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Graffiti will have taken on a whole new meaning by then. Taggers won't be walking around with spray cans full of paint, they'll walk around with computers and reprogram the walls to display their tags (and they'll have spray cans with no paint, just solvents, so they can still huff them :)

    2. Re:i'm looking forward to the day by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Hey, if I'm gonna dream, I want a lot more than that. Give me a holodeck and a flying car, goddammit!

      Oh, and I want a moonbase too. 40 years later and all NASA has given me so far me is some Tang.

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    3. Re:i'm looking forward to the day by sootman · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's already dreaming far beyond you--he's talking about getting good products and service at Radio Shack!

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  8. 220Kg? by gelfling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow you can't hang that on a wall, unless you have a wall that can hang a refrigerator.

    Also, my 46" throws off a noticeable amount of heat. This unit might need some custom ventilation.

  9. For the US-centric... by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    a couple of things to remember here:
    1) $90,000 is the price after currency conversion and VAT (UK's 17.5% "Sales tax"). Without VAT, the TV is $78,000 in a pure currency converted price.
    2) This is only the price with a currency change. Some products don't fluctuate much, but many things are ridiculously expensive in the UK when compared against the same product in the US. Judging by the pricing on the UK Top Gear, for example, cars are often $10K-$15K more for the same product. Computers are a little more reasonable, but you can still find a huge difference. The 30GB iPod (US $250), for example, is $355 US dollars at today's rate.

    It is refreshing to see a jumbo plasma TV that isn't a low-res, corporate boardroom model, though. I only wonder how much juice this thing sucks down.

    1. Re:For the US-centric... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Funny

      1) $90,000 is the price after currency conversion and VAT (UK's 17.5% "Sales tax"). Without VAT, the TV is $78,000 in a pure currency converted price.
      Oh, that settles it then -- I'm going out to get one right now, I'll pay for it out of petty cash.
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    2. Re:For the US-centric... by Tet · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It is refreshing to see a jumbo plasma TV that isn't a low-res, corporate boardroom model, though.

      You think it isn't low-res? I was quite depressed when I saw how few pixels they'd given it. At 103", 1920x1080 equates to a rather paltry 22dpi. I just don't understand why large screens can't at least have the same resolution as a decent monitor. I mean, I'm not expecting a 103" screen with 100dpi. But just being able to match, say, the number of pixels found on a Dell 30" monitor would be nice...

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    3. Re:For the US-centric... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Funny

      You think it isn't low-res? I was quite depressed when I saw how few pixels they'd given it. At 103", 1920x1080 equates to a rather paltry 22dpi.

      The would have added that CSI miracle-zoom-in technology that would make a higher pixel resolution a sensible option, but the royalties were too high.

  10. Ob. Penny-Arcade by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can sympathize: Comic

  11. They don't come down in price by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    They just wait for inflation to catch up.

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  12. Pythagoras by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 2, Informative

    Convention Hall: maybe. Stadium, no.
    At 2:1 aspect ratio this comes in right around 8' X 4'. Not for big events.
    (a 103" diagonal is *very different from a 180)

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  13. Not as big as Frank's... by Bazman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Risin' above the city, blocking out the noonday sun
    It dwarfs the mighty redwoods and it towers over everyone
    I still remember when that delivery truck came down our block
    What a lucky guy, I hear he got the last one in stock
    And the neighbors are just green
    They say, That's the biggest screen we've ever seen!

    It's Frank's 2000" TV (Frank's 2000" TV)
    Everbody come and see(Frank's 2000" TV)
    Frank's 2000" TV (Frank's 2000" TV)

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    1. Re:Not as big as Frank's... by Megane · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quick math on Frank's TV: if it's 4:3, 2000 inch diagonal would be 1200 inches (100 feet) high. Widescreen 16:9 would be 720 inches, or 60 feet.

      Basically, Frank's TV is the size of a drive-in theatre screen.

      This post has been a public service of the Federal Useless Consumer Knowledge Statistics Department

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  14. Replacement by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be a nice replacement for my window.

  15. Power Consumption by frostilicus2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you were wondering (this is Slashdot, after all), according to the manufacturers specs, this beast consumes 1500W (!) of power. Any ideas what a comparable CRT would consume?

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    1. Re:Power Consumption by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Funny

      Any ideas what a comparable CRT would consume?
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  16. Priceless? by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. 103" HDTV Plasma: $90,000
    2. Ferrari car: $1,000,000
    3. Watching aftermath from a too frantic Wii car game: Priceless.

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  17. Japanese price by MZGuy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I saw a Panasonic 103" 1080P TV when I was in Japan in the end of March. According to the price tag it was named TH-103PZ600, and cost 5,600,000 Yen, which would be about 47000 USD. I have a photo of the price tag right here if you want to look for yourself. With that kind of outrageous difference in price, I'd go get it from Japan if I were in the market for that TV.

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    1. Re:Japanese price by GauteL · · Score: 2, Informative

      "With that kind of outrageous difference in price, I'd go get it from Japan if I were in the market for that TV."

      Not to rain on your parade, but this may not be entirely practical with a 103" Television. I can foresee a whole host of problems that the mega-rich which this is marketed towards, may rather want to pay $40000 to avoid. I assume the US price, like the UK price, also comes with a whole team of professional installers, cranes and the like.

      From the review the television is 220 kilograms or 350 kg if you are using the heavy duty stand.

  18. Premier League by dunc78 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about these Premier League footballers they refer to... Can they compete with our U.S. NFL footballers, or they more along the lines of NFL Europe footballers?

  19. Costs $0.41 Per Minute To Watch by centauricw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Plasma screens are only rated for 3600 hours of viewing time before they deteriorate below spec and the manufacture won't replace the glass. Based on this, we computed that you loose $0.41 a minute watching this set.

    1. Re:Costs $0.41 Per Minute To Watch by NotTheNickIWanted · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is it $0.41 or 0.41 cents per minute?
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  20. How far away do you have to sit? by AmiAthena · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My boyfriend and I recently got a 61" DLP (which he NEEDED because he bought a PS3). According to both the manual and our experience, you should sit 7' to 10' away for optimal viewing pleasure. Sitting closer results in having to turn your head to follow the action (as well as the color looking a little off); this makes you very aware you are watching TV, ruining immersion. I don't really know how to go about the math for this, but it seems like you'd have to be something like 20" away to view anything properly on such a huge screen. So not only do you have to have a wall wide enough and tall enough to fit the thing on, the room needs to be long enough to sit that far away. As someone mentioned, this might not be a problem since a person who can afford this probably has the space for it, but it still makes my brain hurt a little.

    Another impracticality that springs to mind is that this isn't even a very good investment- what's the average life of a plasma screen? Could you go back to a relatively normal size TV after you've had this, or will you be shelling out $90,000 every 5 years or so? At least our "little" DLP will still be usable in 10 years. We might have to spend $300 on a light bulb for it, but we'll be able to see the picture.

    Here's some math I can do: for the same amount of money, you could buy 30-40 61" TVs and put one on every wall; which would be kind of scary but pretty awesome. (And on a moral, "isn't there anything worthwhile you could do with your obscene sums of money?" note, I looked up one of those sponsor-a-child charities I see on TV and you could sponsor 312 children for one year, or 20 children for 15 years each, or of course one child for 312 years. I am *NOT* judging anyone, I just got to thinking about the numbers.)

    I can't deny it would be cool to have, but for several reasons I can't imagine buying one, even if I could afford to.

  21. a much cheaper solution by llZENll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) Buy a 50" plasma and sit closer!

    2) Buy 4 42" plasmas for each person in your family so everyone can sit closer.

  22. Re:Terrific. Just what I needed... by sootman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Area Man, is that you?

    I mean seriously. You came all the way to an online forum, clicked on a link to a story about TVs, and took the time to post a comment about how you don't watch TV. ?!?!?

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  23. My personal impression by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've seen one of these in person and played around with it a bit, so I guess I'm pretty much obliged to comment...

    Yes, it is ridiculously huge, just bit over 2.6 metres from corner to corner.

    It's also not a TV, it's just a monitor. From what I was told it takes both VGA and DVI inputs, and it has an RS232 port for controlling brightness etc.

    HD looks great on it, the colours are good, and you can easily view it from almost 90 degrees to the side without any real loss of color or contrast. Then again, you really have to be at least 3 or 4 metres away from it to be able to see the whole image comfortably.

    There are 12 (yes, twelve!) fans on the back of it to provide cooling, which I guess you need every bit you can get of, considering the monitor uses 1500 watts when in use.

    I think their target market is high-end home cinemas, but at that price and at that power usage, I would think an HD projector would be more economical. The monitor is useful in daylight though, you can't really say that for most projectors.

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