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Firefox Usage Near 25% In Europe
PARENA writes "French researcher Xiti claims that Mozilla Firefox keeps winning terrain in Europe. 24.1% of Internet users in Europe use Firefox. Slovenia (44.5%), Finland (41.3%), Croatia (36.5%), and Germany (36.2%) lead the way, followed by a group of mostly Eastern European countries. Remarkably, The Netherlands is only at 13.3%, right before Andorra. Oceania maintains a slight lead over Europe, at 24.8%; the rest of the world trails at 11.9% to 15.1%."
I'm getting around 82% firefox, 16% IE.
OS platforms are 88% windows, 9% Mac, and nearly 3% Linux.
Are other people seeing this?
If you didn't notice...
Remarkably, The Netherlands is only at 13.3%
I don't find that remarkable at all. I lived in the Netherlands for a few years, and one of the things that struck me was how Microsoft-centric the universities were. A huge percentage of the Computer Science students had never even tried an OS other than Windows! (I come from one of those sunny countries in the south of Europe, and that's where I attended university. There, the various flavours of Unix — mainly Linux of course — ruled and continue to rule inside the Computer Science department). Therefore it doesn't surprise me at all that the Dutch are still stuck in the yesteryear of Internet Explorer.
As time passed, I realised that part of the reason for the Dutch situation has to do with a certain spirit of conformity and of "trying not to distinguish yourself too much from your peers". Granted, it has its positive sides — like a fairly equalitarian society — but also downsides like this one.
Ok, absolutely shameless of me to post this here, but this site I maintain has Firefox at 64% (and IE at 31%). Nothing to do with Europe whatsoever. Sorry.p
http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/website_stats.ph
Note: it's a total Windows power user app too. That partially explains it.
Eric
We're sick of msft funding bogus lawsuits, lying to the US-DOJ, openly defying the EU, filing bogus patents, faking TCO studies, and faking benchmarks. We're sick of msft creating fake "think tanks" like AdTI, and using fake journalists like Enderle. We're sick of the astroturfing, and letters from dead people campaigns. We are not happy about msft stacking the deck with msft employees in the OOXML approval process.
Need I go on?
Only Istanbul (Constantinople, Byzantium) is technically in continental Europe. The rest is in Asia.
Konqueror and Safari both use KHTML (although Apple has forked it and added some things KHTML still hasn't)
Um. There is such a thing as Oceania, it covers New Guinea, Australia, New Zealand, and those pacific islands out there, Fiji etc. Or you know, I could have just imagined that entire portion of my geography exam...
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I live there you insensitive clod! There very much is such a place as Oceania, it's a name for the region including Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea, and a couple of dozen other island nations in the South Pacific. It is widely used and understood in the region. Just because you've never heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Normally I wouldn't take exception to poor geographical knowledge (mine is far from perfect), but some clueless mods modded you up so I feel the need to respond.
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Regardless of who made it...
IE:
Has poor support for standards like CSS, and has done for years thus stunting web development. Very little has been done to fix this, even in 7.
Has loads of outstanding rendering bugs
Completely stagnated for 5 years, and only had development resumed due to pressure from firefox (again stunting web development)
Supports activex, which is incredibly poorly designed and a security liability.
I would like to write my site using modern CSS features. I can't, because people viewing the site with ie wouldn't see them properly. And rather than degrading appearane gracefully, it makes a half assed attempt at rendering the CSS resulting in a really ugly look.
IE is a horrendously outdated browser, the sooner it dies, the sooner the web can move on.
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And heck, I use opera. Ffox is too slow for what I expect from "internet expirience".
... I have no idea where did this survey dig those numbers.
Also I maintain three of the top 10 visited sites in Slovenia (mostly by teenagers) and the stats there are:
ie 70%, ffox 27%, opera 1.6%.
ie 6 50%, mozilla 37%, ie 7 9%, opera 1.5%
ie 6 60%, mozilla 29%, ie 7 7%, opera 1.6%
So there
The school institutions in Finland are actively pushing firefox because it has the reputation of being secure. (Ministry of Justice changed to openoffice since 2007 btw). The IT at the place I study replaces IE with firefox in all the machines they install (hundreds of machines). Firefox penetration in schools of all levels, universities etc places is nearly 100 percent. I have seen only a few machines with IE. IE is nearly non existant. The public internet booths and libraries use Firefox. If not firefox, they use netscape or opera. The Fox is a sympathetic figure... The only public skewing the statistics are the ones who are not IT aware enough to change their browser, or like IE for some reason. The people who use IE because they like it are in clear minority.
It used to be mostly an American phenomena (who did Apple bribe to get in to all those schools?). The new Apple white design thing with slick OS has made Macs a populear choice in Europe as well. This of course is happening at the same time as proprietary Windows apps loose terrain every day. As long as you don't play games most people can use whatever platform they want, be it Mac or FreeBSD or Ubuntu...
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