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Interview With Mark Shuttleworth

suka writes "The founder of the Ubuntu project argues in a recent interview with derStandard.at that the time for mass consumer sales of Linux on the desktop has not yet come. He goes on to talk about the integration of proprietary drivers, the One Laptop per Child project, and 'great applications' from Microsoft."

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  1. "Yes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    derStandard.at: So are we going to get pre-installed Ubuntu on Dell computers?
    Mark Shuttleworth: Well - time will tell.
    derStandard.at: Are there active talks on that?
    Mark Shuttleworth: I would not comment on any conversations underway.


    What a long winded way Mark has of saying "We're talking with Dell right now."

  2. Re:Not to be rude, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "That's a mouthful considering it's coming from someone who, if we want to be brutal, did little but repackage someone else's hard work. "

    To quote Yoda:

    "And that is why you fail"

    To think that in 2007 we are still seeing people with that mindset when it comes to open source software is really shameful. It is long past the time for the open source crowd to learn that usually the tech is the easy part of product development. The long and grueling hours is actually making it work and be useful for a wide variety of users. Anyone who has ever actually developed and shipped a real world commercial application knows this very well. Too many open source people have never learned this basic truth of software development.

  3. Re:Not to be rude, but... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a mouthful considering it's coming from someone who, if we want to be brutal, did little but repackage someone else's hard work.

    I hope you realize that is the story of every distribution. The amount of work put in is practically nothing compared to all the work that goes on upstream, even if you're talking about someone like RedHat that really contributes an awful lot of code (although they also contribute a lot of awful code - I'm talking virt-manager here right now, although it's hard to tell where virt-manager's fuckups end and libvirt's begin.)

    Is Linux truly not ready for the desktop or are they just milking it for everything it's worth?

    Shuttleworth is losing money hand over fist on this whole Ubuntu thing, so I don't think you can really apply that argument to Ubuntu.

    "Hand over fist" might be an exaggeration, but in the interview he reveals that he is still funding Ubuntu.

    The impending release of the all-Free distribution of Ubuntu proves, IMO, that Shuttleworth "gets it". People complained that it wasn't Free, so he's making a Free release. Give 'em what they want.

    He also specifically says that a lot of people have a lot of success installing Ubuntu on relatives' computers. So clearly he doesn't think that it's completely unready for the desktop. I think he sees it more as an impossibility in marketing at the moment, and I agree.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  4. Re:Not to be rude, but... by cHALiTO · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right. Makes me think of Carl Sagan, who was (is?) often criticized for 'not having done any real discoveries or advances in astronomy', he was only a good 'popularizer' of astronomy and science in general, as this was a trivial or nonimportant thing.
    Making something popular is sometimes very important, as it draws needed attention to a subject. In Sagan's case, maybe he didn't do a nobel-worthy discovery, but how many great scientists are there now, that were inspired by his work? how many of today's great scientific minds wouldn't have turned that way without his incredible talent for communicating his contagious passion for science and discovery?

    I think a similar kind of credit is due to the ubuntu project. Maybe they didn't rewrite the kernel, but they made linux slick and easy to install and accessible to a LOT of people who draw attention (and indirectly resources) to linux. I know in my case, it helped me get a lot of friends interested in linux, who had previously tried it but found it too confusing.

    There are many ways to contribute to a project, besides coding.

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    "Luck is my middle name," said Rincewind, indistinctly. "Mind you, my first name is Bad." -- Terry Pratchett
  5. Re:"truly Free" not great for average consumer? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To me, "truly free" sounds nice philosophically but not practically.

    You haven't said anything that is insightful or surprising to anyone with two neurons to rub together. Ubuntu isn't going to drop the normal Ubuntu distribution. They're simply also making a truly free distribution to satisfy those people who demand such a thing. At some point in the future at which the normal distribution does not outshine the Free-as-in-speech distribution, there will be no need for the nonfree. But until that day - and I suspect it will be a painfully long time coming - it's wonderful (IMO) that they are taking both approaches.

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"