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UK Man Convicted For Wi-Fi Piggybacking

CatrionaMcM tips us to a BBC story reporting that Gregory Straszkiewicz, a UK resident, was fined £500 and sentenced to a conditional discharge for 12 months after being caught using a laptop from a car parked outside somebody else's house. '[H]e was prosecuted under the Communications Act and found guilty of dishonestly obtaining an electronic communications service.' A separate BBC story notes that two other people in England were arrested and cautioned for sharing Wi-Fi uninvited.

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  1. Good, I hope this continues and moves to the US by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you have the right to.

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  2. Re:Open AP? by dotgain · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Uhh, the utter lack of advertisement that it's for public use?

  3. He asked to use the network by AciDLnx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    His computer sent out a DHCP *REQUEST*. His computer said: "Can I have an IP address on this network? Can I have the information I need to get online from this access point?"

    To which the access point replied: "Yes, you can have X.X.X.X. You can route your traffic through X.X.X.X."

    He *asked* to use the network, and the network said *yes*.

  4. Open Networks Are Open by shawn443 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First of all, punish people who break into closed networks not open ones. I have accidentally connected to an open network a time or two. Sorry, I meant to connect to the Linksys network, not the Linksys network. Secondly, if DLink and the like would default to a more secure configuration out of the box instead of pandering to the wanabe power users, this problem would be largely eliminated. The computer industry seems to want to make computers so easy anyone can do it. They can't. Take your car to a mechanic, take your clothes to a tailor, take your securely configured router that you can't figure out to me.

  5. Re:Open AP? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's no different than seeing an unlocked door. You wouldn't just walk in and look around would you? That depends, is it a shop?

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  6. Re:Open AP? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you are told/informed/read other wise, a network is NOT public. It's no different than seeing an unlocked door. You wouldn't just walk in and look around would you?

    I love this example, because there is a legal difference in many jurisdictions between locked and unlocked doors.

    If you defeat a lock and enter a building, that is breaking and entering. But if the door is unlocked the most you can be convicted of (providing you haven't damaged or stolen anything) is trespassing.

    The law should really make the same distinction about networks.

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  7. Backwards.... by tinkerghost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you are told/informed/read other wise, a network is NOT public.

    Technically, the structure of the internet is built on a 'Default allow' schema. Essentially, if you don't say 'no' then I can. I don't have to get permission to use your web server, your anonymous FTP server, or route over your backbone. If you choose to, you can of course block all of those, but you have to choose to disallow me access.

    Add to that the facts that public 'hot spots' are more & more common & XP will sometimes jump from one network to another without asking and you have a recipee for legal chaos when incompetents leave their AP's open.

    It's no different than seeing an unlocked door. You wouldn't just walk in and look around would you?

    Do it all the time - I don't actually remember the last time a business had someone out front asking me to come in.

  8. Re:Open AP? by Noah+Adler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Such as an SSID advertisement?

  9. Why does everyone assume the AP was open? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article doesn't say it was, in fact it notes the details are extremely sketchy.

    Furthermore, if I drop my wallet, does everyone here just assume that I don't want it anymore and you are therefore free to take it?

    I had at one time a public access point, it was identified as "Free basic web access, be nice" or something and was run through a linux box wich filtered and limited access quite a bit AND logged everything. I did it mostly out of curiousity. Just what would people access through a connection provided by someone they didn't know?

    The answer was suprisingly mundane. Mostly email and light browsing. The location was in Amsterdam in an apartment near the "kalvertoren" a few years ago. For the non-dutch this is in the heart of amsterdam, yes within walking distance of the red-light district. This is holland, everything is in walking distance.

    HOWEVER I have also found in more recent years that if you leave an AP open for general use, some people WILL not automatically limit themselves to minimum use. Cue the by now old trick of simply filtering a specific users access to replace all their image requests with tubgirl (if you think goatse is bad, google for it).

    Still simply securing your network ain't always enough. At least some wifi security can be easily bypassed. At what point do we say "this is secured enough, you are now commiting a crime".

    Personally I think it is bad sign if a bike stolen from an open garden gets a response from the police that you should have a 1 meter high fence, that is locked and the bike should have secured to something. Perhaps some people like to live in a world were everything has to be secured, I prefer to just lock up those that cannot understand the difference between something you own and something someone else owns. Either way, it seems we need an awfull lot of locks in this world.

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  10. Re:Open AP? by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As I have said on slashdot before: COMPUTERS ARE NOT APPLIANCES!

    Just because I can get in a a car and drive it doesn't mean I should.
    If you do not possess the knowledge to properly set up a wireless network, then by no means should you be doing it.
    The law should be simple: if you set it up, w/ SSID broadcast turned off, encryption enabled, or both, then you should be allowed to sue for unauthorized access. If neither, then it should be assumed it is a public service

    The lack of technical knowledge of the 'victim' DOES NOT MATTER. They failed to follow the directions that came with the router. They failed to learn about the tech they were about to use. They get burnt.

    If I install a dishwasher myself, but fail to read the directions, and it floods my house, Is it the water's fault, or mine?

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