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When Tax Day Comes to Azeroth

1up is running a short piece originally from Games For Windows: The Official Magazine. It discusses the inevitability of taxation coming to virtual worlds, and a little bit about what that might mean in the indeterminate future: "Taxable income includes everything from tangibles like cookies to more ephemeral and subjective things like works of art, concert tickets, or advice. Those big, scary books that most sane people pay accountants to understand for them don't really narrow down what counts as taxable income so much as meticulously define it as damn near any piece of matter, energy, or information that should happen to pass into your possession over the course of the year. That goofy World of WarCraft gnome that GFW editor-in-chief Jeff Green's been leveling isn't any more intangible than, say, stocks."

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  1. Cashing out by Metaphorically · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The intangible gnome may be something ephemeral that comes in to my possession (in the sense that it is under my control) but if the analogy is to stocks, then wouldn't it make sense to be taxed when I cash out? I mean gains in the stock market aren't taxed until the stocks are exchanged for money and a capital gain is realized. The funny part really comes later in the discussion when people agree with the concept seemingly based on the idea that anything which causes joy should result in negative consequences.

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  2. Take a deep breath. by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Despite that fact that every gamer site & mag likes to get all fud-tastic in regards to MMO taxes, let's use our brains for a second. The only time that a tax would be applicable would be if real-world money changes hands. Selling gold / items / characters for money? You'd get hit with a sales tax or have to report this as taxable income. It might "suxxors," but if you can make a living by gold farming, then I'd certainly expect you to have to pay your taxes, too.

  3. No more tangible? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please! A share of stock is ownership of a piece of the company. It gives you the right to vote on decisions made by the board of directors, and it may entitle you to receive dividends based on the company's profits. There are limitations on a company's ability to issue new stock. These are the reasons why stocks are tangible and have value. Yes, your stock is probably just bits on server that keeps track of how many you own, but those bits represent actual ownership of an actual company. When someone buys my stock, they are paying for that ownership, not for the bits that represent that ownership. This is quite tangible.

    Your gnome is bits on a server, and that's it. Those bits don't even represent anything in the real world; the bits are the entirety of the thing's existence. The server owners could delete those bits at no cost except your annoyance, or they could duplicate those bits so everyone on the server has three dozen exact copies of everything you own. If you can get someone to buy those bits from you, they are still buying nothing but bits. There is no connection to anything outside the world of bits, and hence the gnome is truly intangible.

    I mean that's just silly. My bank account is just data on a server -- except that data represents very real, very tangible currency. Cash is no more tangible than your WoW character -- yeah right!

    All this means is the same thing that it has always meant regarding taxation: The second my in-tangible, non-existent thing (my online gaming bits) is turned into something tangible (like a stock or wad of cash) then you tax it. How much do you value the bits at for tax purposes? The amount they were sold for. Simple. And we're done. We don't need a whole new section of tax code about the value of things that don't exist or even represent things that exist.

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  4. Oh Noes! Your Game is Going to be Taxed! by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Honestly, the only thing that's being taxed here is my patience. Taxing in-game assets at any time other than when you cash them out would be retarded, and if you're a US citizen you're supposed to pay taxes on that transaction when you cash out anyway.

    Nothing to see here, move along...

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  5. Re:Good luck finding me IRS by zippthorne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they tax it, you can claim the subscription fee as a business expense.

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  6. Re:Frist Psot by nuzak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > it would be illegal for them to tax you on something you don't own.

    They are taxing the income, not the asset. If I sublet my apartment, I can be damn sure the government will tax that income.

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  7. Re:Good luck finding me IRS by Jaeph · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are a fool. They will ask blizzard who you are.

    Feel free to follow the logic train...you won't be allowed to play anonymously if they tax.

    -Jeff

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  8. Re:Mod Parent UP!! by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    True, but back to the original article, unless you made income in the game that was more than the monthly fee you're paying, you'd never have to pay any tax.

    Also, since the value of your "money" in game isn't in actual dollars, you wouldn't be taxed on it until you "realized" the profit, meaning sell your character or account, or sell your "gold" for real money. If you never sell anything in exchange for cash, you never realize a profit. It's the same as if you own stocks and the stock price goes up. You don't pay taxes on the capital gains until you actually sell the stock. It works the same with art, etc. (AFAIK).

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