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Mozilla Releases Thunderbird 2.0.0

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the come-and-get-it dept.

An anonymous reader writes "The Mozilla Corporation has released Thunderbird 2.0.0. Among the improvements are Message Tagging, updated UI, Advanced Folder Views, Better New Mail Notification and Full Support for Windows Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows."

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  1. What about Webmail? by MrNiCeGUi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How long until Webmail (http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html) is updated for 2.0?

  2. Good for them, but... by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How many people, aside from the slashdot crowd, actually use POP3/SMTP clients anymore (at home, not work)? Isn't some ridiculous amount like 90% using gmail/hotmail/yahoo mail/aol mail/etc?

    1. Re:Good for them, but... by MoonFog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most I know (that don't frequent slashdot) use the emails they get from their ISP's, which are mostly set up with POP3 or IMAP and they don't really know much or care about Gmail and the likes apart from using them as log-ins to chat applications.

    2. Re:Good for them, but... by bWareiWare.co.uk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You don't need to be technical to recognise usability. Non-technical users are probably the core market of desktop readers.

      Also I would hope the slashdot crowd use IMAP/SMTP, POP3 is terribly limited if you want to read your mail from more then one device.

    3. Re:Good for them, but... by bWareiWare.co.uk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Didn't mean to start a flame war.

      Everyone has to occasionally sort a mail by hand. With IMAP if I move a mail into a folder on one device it moves on all the other devices, with POP3 I have to move it on each device.

      With IMAP I can see which mail I have already read from any device, this sounds simple, but for most people is very useful.

      I can see that using less storage on the server could be vital. But for most people storing a mail once on the server is going be better then storing a copy on every client. I know my mail server has considerably more space then some of my clients (i.e. phone).

      If I was worried about the privacy of my mail archive I would encrypt it, wherever it was stored.

    4. Re:Good for them, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
      1. Having 5 gmail accounts is exactly why you might want to use POP3--it's much easier than logging in then logging out then logging into another gmail account 5 times. All your mail in one place.

      2. Configuring a gmail account just got much easier in Thunderbird. Just go to Tools>Account Settings then click 'Add Account', select the account type as gmail, enter your name and gmail address and, uh, you're done. Lather, rinse and repeat for your 4 other gmail accounts.

      3. gmail's spam folder is not accessed when you use POP3. You only get what "slips through."

      Maybe one of these days I'll return to a client . . . Maybe today would be a good day!
  3. Painful marketing by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any chance the Mozilla people could trouble to put up some real information about the new version instead of a flashy page of meaningless marketspeak?

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  4. All I want *built in* is... by wetelectric · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. A shared calender
    2. An integrated Calendar
    3. Exchange support a la evolution (even if it just supports a few features :) )

    I have introduced Thunderbird to my work place to a limited extent. But these features would allow me to push its introduction further.

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  5. vcal support? by epiphani · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The single lacking feature stopping me from using it? Heck, even if it ties in with that other calendaring application from mozilla, at least recognizing outlook calendar requests and calling the other app.

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  6. Cross Platform UI/Widgets Are Jarring On OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Thunderbird 2 has a much more modern refined UI compared to earlier versions, but it still feels and looks very clunky compared to native OS X apps.

    I've noticed the same thing about apps like OpenOffice. Looks and feels absolutely hideous under OS X but feels just fine when running on Windows or Linux. It has to be that the OS X desktop/app toolkit and widgets really are THAT much more refined/polished/whatever than other OSes.

    I don't want to come off as an Apple fanboy because I use all three major desktops, but running non-native apps on OS X really brings to light just how much more elegant and modern OS X is compared to others.

    I don't know why Windows or Linux can't seem to get anywhere near the elegance and polish that Apple seems to be solely able to.

  7. IMAP by duguk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I use IMAP and Thunderbird - and so do all my customers. POP3 is just way too insecure, Outlook is sucky and Thunderbird is the perfect solution.

    Maybe think before you write such generalising statements.

    Monkeyboi

    1. Re:IMAP by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I use IMAP and Thunderbird - and so do all my customers. POP3 is just way too insecure, Outlook is sucky and Thunderbird is the perfect solution. Outlook sucks rocks yes, but Thunderbird 1.5 wasn't a shining beacon either. There's several UI decisions that just suck rocks in Thunderbird (search kinda blows, although worlds better than Outlook). Mac's Mail is better in some ways, but it's not the panacea I'm looking for either. I still feel like I'm in circa 1992 with Eudora. Mail clients have essentially stagnated since then with very little improvement from a user perspective. Maybe TB 2.0 will fix that. I'll be looking forward to trying it out.

      POP3 is perfectly secure in SSL mode. IMAP is supposed to add some features, but is not inherently more secure than POP3.

      Maybe think before you write such generalising statements. As should you.
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  8. Re:But the big hole is... Calendaring and contacts by neutrino38 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I use Thunderbird both at work and at home.

    This release contains probably a lot of improvment under th hood but what really misses is:

    • Support for Outlook calender on PC
    • Support for an Opensource calender server with the ability to change the calendar from within the GUI
    • A way to synchronize calendars between Thunderbird on different workstation
    • Syncronisation of calendar with Mobile devices
    • Synchronisation of contact with Mobile devices
    • SMS / MMS management from within TB

    For Mac OS X users like me, I would add:

    • Native support of Mac OS X address book
    • Enable spotlight to search within the mails
    • Native support of Mac Calendar (don't reinvent the wheel ;..)
    • Support of iSync for synchronsation with mobile devices (don't reinvent the wheel ;..)

    This would be a proper 2.0 release.

    I would also suggest also to write or improve extentions connecting TB with proeminents CRM software (Salesforce, Surgar CRM, ...).

    PS: I tried Sunbird but was not convinced.

  9. Re:Compile your own 64-bit! Here's how : by Svet-Am · · Score: 2, Insightful

    meaning that Windows x64 users are left totally in the dark. If they're going to claim Windows support and x64 support in the same sentence, then they ought to be providing a 64-bit enabled binary.

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  10. Re:But the big hole is... by disasm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    most of us don't want it. We like our mail client doing just mail... However; I have heard rumors about Penelope (the new Eudora based on the same codebase as Thunderbird) having calendaring support similar to outlook for people that would like to have it.

    Sam