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Sony Rejects PS3 Price Cuts
Despite hopeful comments by analysts, Sony has gone on the record (again) saying that it has no plans to cut the PS3's pricetag any time soon. Next Generation reports: "'PS3 prices and shipment plans for the future should be determined by market trends and competition. Sony currently doesn't have any specific plan to cut the PlayStation 3's price.' Analysts believe a price cut is inevitable, as the company struggles to catch Microsoft's early lead with Xbox 360, and the $250 Wii continues to sell as many as can be produced. However, Sony's plan has generally been to hold tight and hope that demand for Blu-ray drives will increase, by the end of this year." Relatedly, the company has outlined releases for the second quarter of this year on the PS2, PS3, and PSP systems.
dig in your heals and hope no one catches on to that fact...
the preceding post was not spell checked... suck it.
cutting the price at this point wouldn't help game sales enough to offset the extra loss they'd be taking on each unit, because the library is still pretty sparse. might as well suck it up and sell whatever units are selling. when the really good games start coming out later this summer and fall, sales will pick up and I wouldn't be surprised to see a november cut of about $100
God Fucking Damnit
Of the 134 words in the summary, 24 were not part of a link. I'd post something constructive, the I could bare to rear more than 10 words of the summary (and we all know the golden rule about reading TFA). Sheesh!
Seriously, is Sony intentionally driving itself into the ground? (and no, I'm not trolling)
It's a known fact that consoles don't bring in revenue, it's in-house games and accessories and licensing fees. If the PS3 price were even remotely close to the XBox 360, I could see Sony not cutting the price on grounds of competitive pricing; that's clearly not the case. I can't see sales ticking up significantly through the first price drop, unless there's something I'm missing.
They keep playing the old its my toy and if you don't want to play by my rules you can't play with it... But they don't seem to notice that not many people are willing to play with their toy based on their rules. This includes both game makers as well as customers. Over all I keep hoping that they will see the light and the ps3 will take off with both good games and good price... but untill then I will just keep what I have.
love the taste, hate the texture
Wait for demand for Blu-Ray drives?
Is there any demand, whatsoever?
Hell - demand for HDTVs isn't even all that high.
Regardless, I can watch HD movies via Comcast on demand, download them via XBox 360, or to a PC.
I have no problem at all getting HD content onto my screen.
Why should (most)people care about plastic discs anymore?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
I don't understand why people are confused about the lack of a price cut announcement.
You don't tell the public that a poorly selling, expensive product is going to be $100 cheaper next month unless you want even lower sales for the next month. Lower sales for that month means even lower numbers of customers looking to buy software for the machine.
The announcement of the PS3 price cut will come the same day as the PS3 price cut (see PSP price cut as an example).
Just wanted to throw in that the 360 does look pretty amazing at 720p. So far seeing ps3 games and 360 games at 720p I haven't seen anything on the ps3 that really "wow'd" me. (Not to say it didn't look good, just nothing that made me regret getting a 360). Can't speak to the 1080p though, so thats definitely an opportunity for Sony to excel if the 360 doesn't start putting its own 1080p games out.
On the other hand again its ridiculous to say that the graphical output of a 360 in HD is a half-generation behind the Wii.
Yeah the Wii isn't half a generation ahead of the 360 graphically. But it does have controllers a generation ahead. That's part of the problem launching first. Sony got to see what people thought of the 360, and also hear what Nintendo was doing, and try for the best of both.
The tilt sensors in the PS3 controller are a nice touch and I'd like to see some games make better use of it. Tony Hawks uses the tilt sensors for balancing on grinds / manuals. It feels like a really natural way to do it and for me that was the killer feature vs the PC version I've got. Motorstorm can use them for turning, but that feels like a tacked on extra that doesn't really work.
I don't think Sony has caught up with online stuff yet. The headsets for the 360 also sound like a great piece of kit I'd like to see on the PS3. But that's all software. I think Sony concentrated on getting the hardware in place to do anything the 360 can do, with the idea they can improve software later.
This isn't news. But several other things are also true. Among them:
Sony completely fucking blew the PS3 launch. There are simply not enough games that people actually want, and the price is astronomical so many people decided to wait for more games to be released. But the result of that is that there are less PS3s sold. Developers want to make games for consoles that people actually own, so they will be less inclined to make PS3 games. This won't result in many games being cancelled, but it will result in less games being exclusive to the PS3 - the installed base is less than any other console for which people are still making/selling games, so making a PS3 exclusive is guaranteeing that your profits will be reduced. Since there are less games, and less exclusives (which have traditionally been strong selling points - for example zillions of people bought the PS2 just for Tekken Tag, Gran Turismo, or a Final Fantasy title) this means that less people will want to buy the system.
If you can't sell games, you're not going to make the money.
Also keep in mind that Nintendo makes money when they sell game consoles. They don't lose it. So even if they sold less units they still wouldn't be losing money on consoles. This is why there's room in the industry for first place, second place, and Nintendo. But if Nintendo takes first or second place, I think there's distinctly less room left...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Motorstorm (already out)
Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone
Heavenly Sword
FF13 (despite recent headlines, 13 and 13vs are still PS3 exclusive for now)
Lair
Afrika
LittleBigPlanet
Home
Other than Heavenly Sword and FF13 (which will be ported, they announced it), I don't sense any anticipation to speak of for the rest of that list.
Going to be a cold winter at Sony HQ.
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The PS3 is $600 and includes a 60GB HDD, wireless and wired networking, and a blue-ray HD player (chosen for playing HD movies and for having a media type with enough storage space for games that will eventually exceed the storage of a standard DVD disc). The XBox 360 is $400 with only a 20GB HDD and to make it comparable to the PS3 you must buy a wireless adapter ($90.00), and an HD-DVD player ($190.00 and which Microsoft doesn't produce games on which means you'll be dealing with multi-disc games in the not too distant future). This brings the XBox 360 price up to $680. In addition the online play is not free ($40 for a year subscription), it is prone to overheating so an intercooler is almost a must (NYKO Intercooler $15). This brings the XBox 360 to $735. Furthermore, XBox 360 is going to increase the HDD capacity of the XBox 360 to 120GB to compete with the PS3 and since they use a proprietary drive this will cost you $180 whereas you can put any HDD in a PS3 (120GB HDD can be had for $53.00). This brings the XBox 360 to $915 and the PS3 to $653. If you decide the HD player really just isn't worth it then that still leaves the XBox 360 at $725 which is $72 more than the PS3. Then you add the fact that the PS3 is a single component vs. the now 4 components for the XBox 360 (The unit itself, intercooler, wireless adapter and the HD player) or 3 if you choose not to get the HD player. More components means more wires and more hassles and more space that is required. Plus, a single component looks a lot nicer in your living room rather than several. I realize the wireless adapter and intercooler actually connect to the XBox 360 but it is still more wires and more hassle and makes the console take up more space. Another nice feature of the PS3 is that you can install Linux on it making it a fully functional computer if need be. The PS3 is also quieter (barring the recent whine discovered in some of the new PS3s which will hopefully be fixed soon), a lot more backwards compatible and doesn't have the bad manufacturing quality of the XBox 360 (lots of people are complaining that they have had to replace their XBox 360 several times). So, how do you really justify the PS3 being more expensive than an XBox 360?
Why exactly did Nintendo reject an immersive world for a bare-bones cartoony poor man's version with little actual value to the player?
Because they found it unnecessary and only wanted to provide a way for the player to get "himself" in the game? Because it's easier to make a carricature of yourself from cartoony parts than a realistic representation because the latter will be held to a much higher standard and just a slightly different nose can ruin the illusion?
Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
Better luck next round, Sony.