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Novell Bombards SCO with Summary Judgment Motions

rm69990 writes "Novell has filed 4 motions for Summary Judgment against SCO, which essentially ask the court to toss the remainder of SCO's case that isn't already being arbitrated between SUSE and SCO. One seeks a ruling from the court that Novell transfered none of the copyrights in Unix to SCO, which is backed up by many exhibits and declarations from people who negotiated the deal. Another, along the same lines, asks the court to toss the portions of SCO's Unfair Competition and Breach of Contract claims pertaining to the Unix copyrights. The third asks the court to rule that Novell did not violate the Technology License Agreement between SCO and Novell, and last and also least, the fourth seeks to toss the Slander of Title for the additional reason that SCO has failed to prove any special damages. These motions follow 2 motions for summary judgment filed by Novell late last year on 2 of their counterclaims."

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  1. I remember by El+Lobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember the time when software was just software and no politics...

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    1. Re:I remember by KitsuneSoftware · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't matter how short patent terms are if it's still possible to get new patents on inventions that have already been patented one or more times before. Patent offices need more appropriate targets than the "how many have you dealt with this week" I've heard about; if court processes were not so slow, I would suggest penalties for patent examiners who pass patents that are subsequently invalidated.

    2. Re:I remember by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "
      I think that for libraries and other software that can be used in various different applications, "public domain" is the way to go."

      Why?

      What's wrong with the GPL?

      Consider; we're talking about a legal case in which one company, whose primary business is GPL software (Linux) is being sued, and countersuing, another company who raised a fortune on GPL software (Caldera), and then bought a dying closed source business.

      Now, I'm not saying all software should be mandated GPL. However, for libraries and software used in various different applications, I definitely think that the LGPL is the way to go. This helps maintain compatability, and what we need, as a economic society, is for software to become less proprietary and more commodity. Like every other aspect of modern industry, software should adhere to standards, and packages with similar functionality should be compatible with each other. LGPL libraries for the majority of software functions will get us there.

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    3. Re:I remember by Curtman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could RMS actually be a visionary and not just a zealot?

      Or maybe he's a zealous visionary. Why is that a bad thing?
    4. Re:I remember by salimma · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that for libraries and other software that can be used in various different applications, "public domain" is the way to go. Just like SQLite has done. Even it can be used in closed source, it still helps the human kind in general, because the less is needed to invent the wheel again.


      But you *are* reinventing the wheel when you have to reimplement a closed-source addition that some company did to the original code without sharing, or sharing it with a more restrictive license (like FreeBSD cannot take in changes that Apple make verbatim, because APSL != BSD). As an earlier reply said, what's wrong with LGPL for libraries?
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    5. Re:I remember by fermion · · Score: 4, Insightful
      While I do not believe in moderating comments down simply because they are inane, this comment was probably moded down because it is not true. The lack of truth is proven by your statement
      I used to -hate- the GPL.

      The fact that someone has such strong feelings about a voluntary document is what makes politics. Politics often happens when one not only believe that it is a bad choice for oneself, but a bad choice for everyone. We then engage in a process to insure that no one has the choice. That is certainly one side of politics.

      Technology, like most things, exists inside a political framework. By implying that this is a new development, one is also implying that it might once again be independent. This is a dangerous and naive inference. Political and market forces have brought us the technology we have today. To keep what we have, we must be part of those political forces.

      It is like sex and marriage, and the presumption that the political process should stay out of it, and that such invasions are recent. The truth is that sex and marriage form the basis of civilization, and the control of it forms that basis of the stability of a predominant regime. Just look at how many ancient cultures from of marrying outside the clan.

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    6. Re:I remember by Progman3K · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >> [...] I personally think they should make patents only good for 5 years, give everyone that currently has a patent 5 years remaining, and be done. [...]

      I think you are right. Patents were originally put in place to protect the little guy, but now they are used exclusively to keep the "littler" guy out.

      Things move so fast today, patents cannot logically hold for so long, they must lapse and benefit the people. Anything else is surely a way for monopolies to be kept alive.

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    7. Re:I remember by renoX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The ONLY way to recompile the application is to distribute the source."

      OK, I shouldn't have said recompile but rebuild, relink for this you need only a set of object files (which can be obfuscated).

      As for the 'viral license', it's still a very poor analogy: 'chosing' not to have a real virus is very hard: it requires you to 'take the most insane safety precautions', but it's *totally up to you* to choose to use GPL code or not in your application..
      So this is a flawed analogy, not neutral at all, used to put the GPL in a bad light.

  2. IANAL but I don't think this means much by jimicus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IIRC, every single litigant involved in cases with SCO has filed motions for summary judgement.

    I think they're filing them more in hope than in expectation - in the hope that it will close the case fast and minimise legal fees. Novell, IBM et al are a lot of things, but I can't imagine they want to hand over any more money than they have to to their lawyers.

  3. SCO 2.0? by hendridm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Assuming Novell wins the majority of judgments, I wonder what would happen if Novell some day decides that Linux is no longer viable as SCO did...

    1. Re:SCO 2.0? by renegadesx · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If Microsoft bought SuSE off Novell they would just close it down and put the breaks on the OpenSUSE community which would send them elsewhere. The leftovers from SuSE would most likley end up going to either Red Hat/Fedora or Ubuntu.

      In the end I don't see Novell selling SuSE, I think Microsoft buying Novell is a more likley scenario.

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  4. Variations on a theme - Novell and EV1 by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Microsoft + Novell deal is just SCO + EV1 servers all over again. The schemers are running out of creativity. Both deals are more smoke than fire. Neither is meaningful because their secret nature precludes people from making rational decisions about them. How do you put a value on the products of either SCO or Novell, when they've entered agreements that prohibit them from disclosing who owns what? Is the point of this to allow both of them to sell you the same thing, twice? When your marketing approach is "Sign this contract or we'll sue you out of business whether our claims have merit or not," people have to start wondering what makes you morally superior to a mugger and whether being in an enduring relationship with you is preferable to going directly to court or cheaper than settling you with a different kind of "contract.". Eventually these people are going to try this with the entirely wrong victim and it won't take the courts to sort the matter out.

    The declaration of Novell's outside attorney that did the deal, Tor Braham reads like death to SCO's claims. Basically he was there, wrote the draft that got signed. He signed it himself. He kept drafts of what the Old SCO asked for and the edits where they were struck, and explains why very clearly: SCO just didn't have the cash, Novell wasn't interested in selling the Unix copyrights, Novell needed to protect its interests in case of an OldSCO bankruptcy.

    It's interesting that just 1/2 hr before the close of market two days ago somebody unloaded 466,000 shares of SCOX, just over 2% of the company. As of December 31, 2006 yahoo lists only seven companies and two insiders with that much of a stake. I wonder who....

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  5. This may be the beginning of the end for SCO by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems to be going on forever, but it's not. The end is in sight. SCO can stall, but the process does move onward. Discovery is over; everything significant that's going to come out has come out. Now we're in the stage where bogus claims get thrown out via summary judgment motions. That phase is well along; summary judgment motions have been made and briefed in both the Novell and IBM cases. Soon the judge will decide them.

    The Novell-SCO contract says that Novell retains "all copyrights". If the judge rules that the contract means what it says, that ends the copyright issue.

    Then, based on that, the summary judgment motions by IBM against SCO mostly get decided in favor of IBM.

    Remember, for IBM, this is no longer a problem. Is it hurting Linux server sales? No. Are customers bothered by it? No. Can IBM afford the legal costs? IBM revenue was $91,000,000,000 in 2006. I doubt this issue gets much management attention in Armonk any more.

  6. No such thing by Shadowlore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no such thing as corporate greed. There is greed. Humans have greed corporations do not. One of the worst episodes in the history of the US was when the US Supreme Court decided corporations, a fiction created by government, were tantamount to people. And continuing to anthropomorphize them only perpetuates the real problem. Corporations don't have soul, emotions, etc.. People do.

    So why do socialists and "anti-capitalists" and so on continue to refer to them as if they were human? Because it belies the problem to socialism. The actions taken are done by humans. Humans can be greedy. Sometimes greed can be good, often it is bad. Pretending that corporations have greed, feelings, emotions, desires, etc. lets people feel good about humans while feeling bad about corporations.

    The problem with governments and corporations are the same, and for the same reason. The more humanity is separated from itself via fictions such as corporations and government, the more they people can justify things they would not do themselves in a more personal situation.

    So whine all you want, but put the blame squarely where it belongs - on the people, not the fictions called corporations.

    This particular problem is exacerbated by the fiction of "intellectual property". Here we have two fictions being combined to control others. For all the frailties of humans, it gets worse when we exclude humans. At least humans have qualities that limit or hinder the damage of our frailties when we are involved

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