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Investment Companies Backing Patent Trolls

greenbird sends us to Forbes for an account of billions in investments flowing to US patent troll companies. One example is DeepNines, who is suing McAfee over a patent that covers combining an IDS and firewall in a single device. The patent was filed on May 17, 2000 and issued on June 6, 2006. No prior art for that, no siree. DeepNines is funded by "an $8 million zero-coupon note to Altitude Capital Partners, a New York City private equity firm, promising in return a cut of any winnings stemming from the lawsuit. The payout is based on a formula that grants Altitude a percentage that decreases with a bigger award."

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  1. How is this news? by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Newsflash: investments flow to companies that stand a chance at making money.

    The problem is with current patent laws and the incompetence of the Patent Office with regards to IP. Companies exist to make a profit within the bounds of the law. The law is what we should be focusing on here, not the obvious fact that investors want to...wait for it...get a return on their investment.

  2. There ought to be a law but there isn't by philpalm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Computer software geeks meet the Big Drug companies. If you Google enough you will find that the lawmakers were in bed with Big Drug Companies who wish that Patent rights laws were stronger.

    As opposed to software and other user generated innovations that build upon the writings and methods of those who have gone ahead in the discovery game.
    Computer development is linear, you can see how each company leapfrogs another and soon the king of the hill pushes everyone off of their mountain.

    Drug companies claim that they discover a certain formula and test the hell out of all side effects before coming to market. They spent all that money and want to be reimburst for the money spent on failures and developments.

    Two industries with different methodologies and financial successes yet both are in the same patent boat. There ought to be a law but a King Solomon hasn't decided nor is likely to solve it soon.

  3. Re:You can't build a solid economy on IP. by radtea · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The issue is incentivizing the research behind innovation.

    I think he did read your post and you're talking past each other.

    He is pointing out that bits can be copied for free. You are pointing out that to prevent that we need robust laws to stop people from copying bits for free. I'm pretty sure he understands your point. He just thinks you're wrong.

    Material goods are easy to protect from copying because they are relatively hard to copy. "IP" is inherently copyable at almost zero cost, and therefore has no market value unless that value is created by an artificial scarcity produced by extremely expensive laws, with all of their outrageous secondary effects like the creation of patent trolls. There is no evidence that "IP" when so protected can ever generate sufficient wealth to pay for the legal infrastructure required to maintain the required artificial scarcity, much less support the parasitic growths that that legal structure will necessarily attract.

    It may be possible to generate sufficient artificial scarcity at a low enough overhead cost to create a primarily "IP" based economy, but it would be extremely foolish to bet the future of your country on it.

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  4. Re:Patent trolls get a bad rap on Slashdot by mrsteveman1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with that is, there are companies who obtain patents for the sole purpose of ensuring that the technology is available for people to use. Apple does a bit of this, as do a number of other FOSS related companies. If you enforce patents to be used by their owner, you will actually hurt a number of groups with good intentions who help the community a great deal.

    As an example, Novell, IBM, Phillips, Redhat, and Sony formed a company called The Open Invention Network, "The Open Invention Network (OIN) is a company that acquires patents and offer them royalty free "to any company, institution or individual that agrees not to assert its patents against the Linux operating system or certain Linux-related applications""

    I think a better answer to all of this is to make it MUCH harder to get a patent, and narrow the definition given in the patent as much as possible. That seems to be the real problem, patents are routinely granted that cover things the entity applying for the patent didn't even come up with.