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Why Are T1 Lines Still Expensive?

badfrog asks: "Over the last 10 years, DSL and cable modem has upped its speed (although in some instances only slightly) and dropped its price. However, the price of a T1 has stayed almost exactly the same. If you had asked me 10 years ago, I would have predicted any geek that wanted to would have fiber or their own T1 line to the house by now. What is with this sad state of affairs that a 'business class' 1.544Mbit connection is hundreds of dollars more than a 6Mbit cable connection? Is it a legitimate case that a high upload rate should increase cost so significantly?"

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  1. Re:consumer vs buisness grade by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    They are also often packaged with 'business grade' support... though your mileage will vary there.

    I know that Pacific Bell T1s always came with business grade support - as in, they are provided to you by a business whose motto is "We don't care, we don't have to, we're the phone company."

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  2. Re:Oh, come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I heared that in Italy you can get a T1 for cheap, but I'm sure it comes with no guarantee."

    "I wanted to go to Cambodia. You can get a lobster dinner for a dollar."

  3. Re:Why are vacuum tubes expensive? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, Tubes, in a conversation about internet bandwidth, in a way that is completely unlike the stupid lame slashdot joke..

    If I had mod points, I'd give them to you!

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  4. USE GOOGLE... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the "I'd rather post to /. and have the editors post this topic than enter it in google" dept:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+t1s+expensi ve

    First 10hits are questions on "Why is a T1 more expensive than DSL?"

    Must be a slow news day.
    (i know this is a troll but, "ask slashdot" questions should not be answered with the FIRST TEN hits in a google search).

  5. Not surprising? by GFree · · Score: 3, Funny

    You want to know why T1 lines are so expensive? Because the idiots with whom you try to talk to just want you to give them money, they don't even bother to haggle on the price.

    Why just last week, I was talking to my local ISP about my situation. I was interested in upgrading my 28.8 kilobaud Internet connection to a 1.5 megabit fiber optic T1 line, and was trying to determine if they were able to provide an IP router that was compatible with my Token Ring Ethernet LAN configuration. The bastard just looked at me blankly and asked:

    "Can I have some money now?"

    I mean, how the fuck are prices suppose to fall with that attitude?

  6. Wireless ISP joke by transporter_ii · · Score: 5, Funny

    A man was complaining about his life to his clergyman.

    "I was a hard-working clerk making $30,000 per year. I was frugal, living carefully, saving my money, and I was happy and content.
    Then one day I fell in with some shady characters and I got suckered into a high-stakes poker game. That was my ruin. Now I am anxious, stressed, and miserable."

    His friend says "So you fell into temptation and lost all your savings?"
    "No, I won, and like a fool I bought this lousy Wireless internet company."

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  7. 1 word by phoric · · Score: 1, Funny

    Upload speed

  8. Re:Oh, come on! by WED+Fan · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, he just compared a T1 line to a lobster dinner.

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  9. turning the line around by davidwr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back in the days of 300bps modems, someone had a 1200 semi-half-duplex modem.

    It went 1200 in the fast direction, with something small like 50bps in the other direction.

    The fun part was you could "turn the line around." One side could talk fast the other could o n l y s p e a k r e a l l y s l o w.

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  10. Should have tried the Internet King by snowwrestler · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps he can provide faster nudity.

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  11. Re:You've been robbed. by dedazo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vacuum tubes are expensive because its hard to make a vacuum tube that has any degree of reliability. The fact that transistors do the same job and cost dirt has little impact on the difficulty or cost of making vacuum tubes.

    So that's why just about every American house had a vacuum tube radio or three before they were obsoleted by transistors? Vacuum tubes were not expensive.

    The expression "WHOOOOSH" comes to mind here.

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  12. Re:Oh, come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Paid, Paid, PAID. PAID PAID PAID! *gasps* PAAAAAID. We don't need to pay some guy named ed, no more pay-ed!

    I expected better from a frist post!

  13. Re:Oh, come on! by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

    I believe it is a safe assumption to say the lobster tastes better, but, to each his own.

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  14. Re:Oh, come on! by AmigaBen · · Score: 2, Funny

    TUBES, dummy. Tubes.

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  15. Re:Oh, come on! by Workaphobia · · Score: 3, Funny

    So we're being dragged into the past, and you want us to become Luddites in protest?

    I'll get right on that when my torrents finish.

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  16. Re:Oh, come on! by at_slashdot · · Score: 2, Funny

    I doubt God uses DSL, He must use at least T3.

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  17. Re:Oh, come on! by rgbscan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah he gets a lot of mail in his Ya-weeeehhh! account (Bruce almighty reference)

  18. Re:Why are vacuum tubes expensive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dude, the internet is a giant set of tubes through with you get magic smoke. It's sort of like a hookah, but bigger and more intoxicating. That and you don't know what other people are smoking with it.

  19. Re:Oh, come on! by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Funny

    DSL is a network of pneumatic tubes. There's even a site where you can sign up and have a movie delivered to your house.

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  20. Re:Oh, come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    You have won the Question du Jour contest for the day

    I'm thinking maybe you don't know what du jour means.

  21. Re:Oh, come on! by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 4, Funny

    Either that was a typo or you have no right to complain in my book.

    not a typo. I'm complaining because we got a letter that said we now get 15mbit down, when in reality I'm still seeing 8mbit speeds. if I read online that we should have 15mbit, but I wasn't told that, it wouldn't' be such a big deal...

    Just yesterday my roomate got a notice that he was overusing the campus network - 108 GB in one week. It's hanging on our door now.

    oh man, I should post some stats that the netadmin at my school sent me when I was there. They threatened to shut us down and kick us out of the dorms if we kept it up. This is in 99/00, before napster got popular and downloaded movies took 2 full CDs and were mpeg format. my roommate and I both had a 2x burner and I had a 4GB and a 6GB drive in my computer, while he had 2 10GB drives. we were downloading faster than we could burn and by the end of the year we had a collection of over 300 movies.

    In the email the netAdmin sent us, we were using the full dorm bandwidth (1MB/sec) sustained, both ways for 14 days straight with only the occasional break (when looking at the graphs, it was the times we ran out to get CDRs or we had to run around to other students and ask to borrow HD space in exchange for a copy of a movie).

    THOSE were the days. you kids and your torrent files and your 500GB drives. Hell, I remember when you had to really SEARCH to find a server that had a decent selection AND gave you decent transfer speeds.

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  22. Re:Oh, come on! by mindriot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if I could only figure out the whole "N" thing.

    Nietzsche, of course. "802.11g is dead."

  23. Re:Oh, come on! by Luyseyal · · Score: 3, Funny

    T1s are also notorious for wreaking havok on DSL subscribers that happen to share a trunk

    FINALLY! A real reason to upgrade to a T1: Piss off the neighbors.

    -l

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  24. Re:Absolute BS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not overprovitioning is a lot like building roads as if everyone who owns a car would be driving it 24/7/365. If you did, you'd be spending 10 times the money on roads from whats really required.

    Ok dude, this is /.
    Your car analogy actually made sense.
    Please Sir, step out of the pool.