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SCO Wanted To Gag Torvalds, Moglen
An anonymous reader passes on word of court documents filed by IBM on Friday. The documents contain a copy of a letter, dated 2004, from SCO to IBM's lawyers stating that they tried to keep Linus Torvalds from making disparaging public statements about SCO, speculating erroneously that IBM was the principal funder of OSDL, where Torvalds worked at the time. Quoting: "The company also tried to silence Eben Moglen, the Columbia University professor who, until this month, was a director of the Free Software Foundation, and Eric Raymond, a controversial open-source advocate, saying they claimed to be IBM consultants."
Just goes to prove that nobody is 100% evil.
John
Perhaps some bigwig company is trying to make sure SCO stays at center stage.
silencing them would make people hate/dislike SCO any less.
Oh my God, maybe they got to him!
How we know is more important than what we know.
Here.
Karma police, arrest this man. He talks in math. He buzzes like a fridge. He's like a detuned radio.
Why is there no mention of them trying to gag PJ and Groklaw, considering she has covered the SCO case more than the other 3 combined and then multiplied by 100?
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070428
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070429-sco- wanted-gag-order-for-linus-torvalds-groklaw-in-200 4.html
SCO Tried to Gag Groklaw in 2004
Not sure what to tag this, maybe "beatingadeadhorse". How many more stories of SCO being {evil|stupid|malicious} do we need. The company is almost dead now, let them die alright. It'll be a history lesson for future companies.
Nature journal lied in Britannica vs Wikipedia Ask to retrac
What about Richard Stallman? According to this trustworthy news source he was attacked first.
Open Source Alternatives
SCO is accusing Linus of stealing all of their code, making crazy Iraqi information minister like comments to the press, and they tried to gag the people they are accusing from responding? SCO, please just crawl under a rock and die already.
Doesn't Texas Law ("Sir, he was too dumb to let live.") apply in Utah? It really shouldn't be so difficult to get rid of the SCO dipshits, ferchrissake.
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Gagging is ancient history. It's people duct taping my typing fingers I worry about.
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Hey, if you wait long enough you may get the entire company as an added bonus after purchasing one license.
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SCO thinks your mom is fat, ugly and stupid.
Also, it just kicked your dog, got your teenage daughter pregnant, and dumped its leaves in your yard.
Just read this if you were in any doubt about what a fscking idiot the man is.
Apparently IBM employs half the world of Linux advocates and code writers, according to McBride. They're all out to get him.
SCO should be suing for the IP rights to the tinfoil hat.
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Groklaw "broke" the news April 28 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200704281 9571717
Since then all these "anonymous sources" just cite from PJ, without properly giving credit. The second paragraph in the groklaw article reads:
It also wanted Linus Torvalds, Eben Moglen, and Eric Raymond to be prevented from commenting publicly about the litigation.
It's a court order. Just as a judge can order you to appear before a court, a judge can order you not to say things relevant to a case if he or she thinks that you could be disruptive to the case. Violation of a gag order would be considered non-protected speech because gag orders are only used for things like ensuring that a trial is fair (so there has to be something important at stake) and they are only temporary when they are used.
If a judge made an obviously bad gag order you would have a chance to defend yourself at your contempt hearing.
Oh, come on. Eben Moglen's stepping down from the board of directors of the Free Software Foundation. That's nothing near "gagging himself". He's still a professor of law and history of law at Columbia University. He's still the Chairman of Software Freedom Law Center. He's still allowed, able, capable, and free to make as much comments on SCO as he wants.
He specifically stated in his blog post announcing his stepping down from the FSF that he wants devote more time to writing, teaching, and the Software Freedom Law Center. He considers his years-long FSF work on the GPLv3 as "almost finished", anyway.
Linus should be suing SCO for defamation of character because with they're lawsuits they're saying that's he's not competent to write a kernel, and accusing him plagiarizing of their code.
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
its not that splits don't count its that the split/dump/resplit/redump cycle will most likely cause thier stock to break one of the other trigger values so even if they do a 10-1 reverse split if the stock then dumps 90% of value (currently trapped investors bailing out) SCOX will ram into the "market cap" triggerwall.
of course then we have the problem that there are a few different PSJs that will cause massive damage to the cases if they go the not TSCOG way.
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Would you explain copy_instance() to me? I have a little bit of developer credibility, and *I* can't figure it out:
http://www.python.org/about/success/esr/
Of course since ESR is such a crappy coder compared to you, UNDOUBTEDLY you understand the code at first glance.
Oh, and by the way, RMS has borrowed a few things for the GNU project. That's one of the reasons why Linus doesn't cooperate with the FSF.
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It's clear that they didn't bother to find the facts before filing these gag requests. That's entirely consistent with everything we've come to expect from SCO from the very earliest days of the IBM suit. There is no reasoning behind the things that SCO says and does, only gut reaction, and it's amazing how many pundits and lawyers they duped into helping them tilt at their windmills. They were losing market share, and therefore money, to a free OS, and 'felt' cheated, 'felt' that Linux was an illegal derivative of UNIX. So they assumed their 'feelings' would eventually hold up in court. They haven't, and they won't. They 'felt' people were conspiring against them - Groklaw, Linus, the FSF - but this was all a paranoid delusion, just like the delusions upon which the original lawsuit was based. There has been no reason, no research, and no reality to anything that they've alleged. They show woeful ignorance of how copyright licensing works, about how their opponents operate, and even about the contents of their own contracts (like the Novell asset purchase agreement that could blow up in their faces any day now).
I remember when the original suit was filed and first made news, knowing nothing about how SCO operated and guessing that IBM was in big trouble, and Linux users (myself included) would end up having to fork from a pre-tainted version of the kernel, or do some other such drastic thing. I wanted details - the whole OS, or just the kernel? Or another part? Which code was stolen? Then the interviews came, and Darl showed that he didn't even understand the difference between Linux (the kernel) and 'Linux' (the GNU-based OS). This is a company that has a keen sense of smell for money, but not much sense for anything else.
Thanks for admitting it. So you really don't have a clue about Eric's mad skilz as a developer, do you? The previous time I saw him was at FISL in '05, in Porto Alegre Brazil. He was all happy because he was south of the equator, and could finally test (in person) some code in gpsd related to negative latitudes. He's at a conference and
As for his self-promotion, he has a goal to promote freedom. In order to get press attention, you need to promote yourself. Bruce Perens acknowledges being his own best friend, for the same reason. If you want to achieve a goal that includes people paying attention to you, you end up making more noise than you "deserve". Primates don't like this, so they criticize the people do this, but
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