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Orkut In Pact With Indian Law Enforcement

food4thought writes "The Economic Times reports that Orkut has signed a pact with Indian Cyber Crime Cell. They have now pledged to block any 'defamatory or inflammatory content', or hand over IP address information to police if asked.' Deputy Commissioner of Police (enforcement) Sanjay Mohite said the pact means they do not have to go through the lengthy process of asking the Central government to communicate with Orkut. The practice so far has been to first send a request to the Centre's computer emergency response team in New Delhi. This team processes the request through its channels and even if a forum is finally blocked, the "culprits" still remain untraceable as no IP addresses can be obtained ... "Now we can do away with the process and not just directly ban content but also obtain details of IP addresses and service providers quickly," Mohite said.' How long before we see these 'informal arrangements' elsewhere?"

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  1. Do more profit by Tester · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems like Google's moto of "Do no evil" has been replaced with "Do more profit"

    1. Re:Do more profit by WeblionX · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Do No Evil*"

      *Offer only valid in the US, Canada, and Sealand.

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  2. Oh dear! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now it'll be impossible to post "holy cow!" anywhere on Orkut...

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  3. Re:Orkut? by CogDissident · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow, you're incredably lazy, it says in the SECOND SENTANCE of the article. Its a google-run community site.

  4. Fight Fire with Fire.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will anyone sponsor me to submit my 'one-click arrest' patent?

  5. Won't stop the real hackers, just the dumb ACs by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On reading TFA, sounds a bit flaky...

    "The pact, which is actually an "informal arrangement" called the Priority Reporting Tool, comes as a big surprise to internet users as Orkut has succes, just thsfully blocked attempts by various countries to control content."

    "Now we can do away with the [old, slow, but govt. controlled] process and not just directly ban content but also obtain details of IP addresses and service providers quickly...the IP addresses will enable the [police] cell to track down people who have posted messages and book them if the need arises, police officials said."

    No mention of legal oversight etc.

    Mind you, perhaps we'll all gotten too blasé about the supposed freedom & anonymity of the 'net. After all, if you defame someone in traditional print, you can be sued in most places if it's not fair or truthful. Still, as I said, the smart badboys aren't going to be worried about this...plenty of internet cafés and open (or openable) hotspots around..

  6. Re:Orkut? by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, this is effectively a non-story then. Unless there's been a sudden surge in Brazilian immigrants to India, that is.

  7. I'm an Indian..... by aneeshm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and I'm fucking pissed.

    This is the worst sort of intimidation. Bal Thackeray is a politician. If content against him can be censored, we've reached the limit. The government already blocks websites it deems "hateful". Unfortunately, the definition of hateful includes anyone who dares to criticise the communists, or Islam. The current government stays in power because of the support provided by the communist parties, so they can get ridiculous things like this passed.

    Simply put, this is the first step in an exercise which promises to put an end to freedom of information on the internet in India as we know it. There was an incident where, some time back, the whole of blogspot was blocked. The government doesn't run a firewall a la China, they just ask ISPs to do it. Because there exists no independent ISP (all private players have to lease bandwidth themselves from the government - it's a state monopoly), they have no choice but to comply.

    I am so completely pissed.

    1. Re:I'm an Indian..... by metamatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I just deleted my Orkut account. Fuck 'em.

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  8. No kissing! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, the Indian authorities want to keep people from kissing in public on Orkut.

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  9. Sounds like old (overblown) news to me! by superstarksa · · Score: 2, Informative
    The funny thing is that there was another article that was on Slashdot a few months ago. It was titled "Google Aids Indian Goverment [sic] Censorship". Now in response, a Google spokesperson had said (quote via Boing Boing)

    The reporting tool that was offered to authorities acts as a hotline to Google Inc., allowing the authorities to communicate requests for removal of content to us. The reporting tool does not give the police any privilege other than a speedier vehicle to notify Google Inc. about flagged users or communities. Authorities have no access to user data and can not remove content themselves by using this tool. The tool is not used to provide authorities with user information such as IP addresses. Google investigates reports received by the authorities via the reporting tool to determine whether a user or community has in fact violated orkut's terms of use. Authorities may use the reporting tool to ask Google to preserve user identifying information for a certain period of time (in anticipation of serving formal legal process for such information), and we will preserve the information accordingly. But no user data is turned over to the authorities absent valid legal process.
    So what we seem to have now is another article that basically says the same thing as the first Slashdotted article. And from the Google statement, it appears that the "Priority Reporting Tool" is nothing but a glorified version of the "report abuse" link that every user gets on Orkut. Or did something change at Google in these past few weeks? Is this a new interpretation of the "valid legal process" that the Google spokesperson mentioned in her statement above?

    (P.S: For all those of you who are wondering, Orkut is a (Google promoted) Friendster like social networking site that is very popular in the Indian subcontinent and in Brazil too. Recent surveys indicate that Orkut ranks 9th in terms of membership size, behind Myspace et. al.)
  10. Re:India is Unique: India is not a Western nation. by the_womble · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Consider the Poles. They refuse to develop nuclear weapons and prefer to invest government funds in developing the infrastructure to spur economic growth
    So the US, UK and France are not Western?

    India has a strong and independent judiciary, democracy, human rights law (unlike Britain). It is more democratic and free than any other country at its economic level.

  11. Re:Orkut? by sarathmenon · · Score: 2, Informative

    create hard-to-read webpages


    Leave this part and you've hit it. One of the things why I visit orkut once a month and myspace never is that orkut looks more professionals and easier to use. Its actually a good way to meet up with your friends in case they are all there.
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  12. Re:India is Unique: India is not a Western nation. by beckerist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Indians, like the Chinese, enjoy suppressing human rights -- including the rights to privacy. By contrast, the Poles embrace human rights.

    ...just a thought, but how do you propose to control a combined 2.4 BILLION people? Considering the sheer amount of HUMAN'S, I find it implausible to expect that EVERY ONE of them can be fully represented. This isn't to say that they don't DESERVE rights, just that with THAT many people, you have to balance security and freedoms VERY carefully, generally tipping towards the former.