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Pidgin 2.0 Released

An anonymous reader writes "After nearly two years of development, Pidgin 2.0 has finally been released! Originally called Gaim, Pidgin is a powerful and robust open source instant messaging client that supports many protocols. Pidgin 2.0 features a completely redesigned interface with attractive new icons and and a new status management system that was designed for optimal usability. Pidgin 2.0 also adds support for universal buddy icon management and smooth-scroll functionality for conversation windows. A comprehensive review at Ars Technica explores the new features in Pidgin 2.0 and demonstrates how to use the new D-Bus bindings with Python to make Pidgin's status system send updates to Twitter."

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  1. Re:Pidgin? by LordSnooty · · Score: 4, Informative

    AOL got upset, as I recall (AIM vs GAIM)

  2. Re:VoIP by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 5, Informative

    So ... will it support VoIP?

    Not this version. If you read the conclusion section of the ArsTechnica article, you will see that this is on the roadmap, but when is another matter.

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  3. Re:Psychic mode by DeusInnomen · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Psychic mode feature opens an IM window as soon as you get notification that the remote user is typing. So, you get an empty window with a typing notification before you actually receive an IM. Apparently, it works with the AIM, ICQ, Jabber, Sametime and Yahoo protocols.

  4. Re:Pfft. by Miseph · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two months ago they were held back by an agreement with AOL that they wouldn't make any major releases as part of a trademark suit. A couple of weeks ago they announced that the project's name was changing, that AOL was getting off their back, and that they would resume non-beta updates. Lo and behold, they've released one.

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  5. Re:Any point in upgrading? by bernywork · · Score: 2, Informative

    Works fine, looks different. Differnt icons, simpler layout. More pretty.

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  6. pidgin-encryption? by shr3k · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems everytime GAIM had a new version, GAIM-Encryption seemed to always be there with a new release of their plugin to work with it. But now that they made all these changes to Pidgin, I don't think Gaim-Encryption has followed suit. Has anyone been able to get the encryption plugin working with Pidgin? The installer for 3.0beta8 doesn't recognize Pidgin and, despite forcing an install, Pidgin won't pick up on the encryption plugin.

    I'd say that's the only thing keeping me from embracing Pidgin at the moment. Otherwise, the new UI looks nice.

    1. Re:pidgin-encryption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Off-the-recording messaging is better.

      How is this different from the gaim-encryption plugin?
      The gaim-encryption plugin provides encryption and authentication, but not deniability or perfect forward secrecy.
  7. The interface is terrible! by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is supposed to be a Trillian killer? The interface is horrible! I'm not even talking about the ability to "skin" the application. Simple things like notifying the user if he/she receives mail is ridiculous the way it's implemented.

  8. Re:VoIP by utnapistim · · Score: 2, Informative

    Connecting for chat to GTalk is no big deal right now.

    What I was interested in, was connecting to GTalk for VoIP. That isn't supported right now.

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  9. Slashdotted by Brainix · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh oh. The Pidgin server seems to be hammered, but you can still download it from its SourceForge page.

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  10. Re:27MB install for a IM program? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    What are you smoking dude ?
    The install with GTK+ is ~11MB, without GTK+ is 5...

  11. My Analysis by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've always rather liked GAIM and it has been a while since there have been real improvements, so I thought I'd take a look and see how far they've managed to come.

    I liked

    • Interface looks better, if not perfect.
    • Nicer plug-in system

    I disliked:

    • No Mac OS X support
    • No built in encryption or support for OTR
    • No support for voice or video.

    One thing that annoys me is they took the time to add spell checking for both OS's. I love having spell checking in my IM client, but it is not a function that every single program should have to supply by itself. I'm already running a spell checker in my text editor and my layout application and my e-mail client, and pretty much everything else. This is one of several functions that should be provided at the OS level to all applications that want it, not by each application individually. Will they waste time adding grammar checking next? How about translations between languages? What about dictionary/thesaurus/encyclopedia lookups?

    Calling all Windows and Linux developers. It is time to catch up and make universal services a built in function of the OS so developers stop wasting time re-implementing things and concentrate on features specific to their program, like encryption and VoIP support.

    1. Re:My Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Regarding your anger of the spelling checker... don't they use GTKspell to do that? http://gtkspell.sourceforge.net/

      I remember when I was new to linux, in April 2005, I had to install GAIM on mandrake. It failed due to dependency problems, and the package missing was gtkspell.
      I remember it very well.

      So, they are not wasting time writing a spell checker. They used an existing one: GTKSPELL.

  12. Re:27MB install for a IM program? by Curtman · · Score: 3, Informative

    What did you download? One of these ?

    The Windows installer which includes Gtk+ is 11MB, and the one without is 5.5MB. Or it should be anyway. I don't see anything that is 27MB.

  13. Re:SIP? by Bytefreak · · Score: 4, Informative
    SIP Support is there as of last year, won't help much as as MS have used non standard extensions for LCS....Happily there's a guy working on a gaim plugin for LCS which uses a modified version of the SIP/Simple code:

    http://fixxxer.cc/blog-en/?cat=9

    It's still in the early stages, but it's getting there and has the advantage of being cross-platform and open-source, hoping I can use it to talk to our internal IM network from my linux box.

  14. Re:27MB install for a IM program? by Evil+Cretin · · Score: 1, Informative

    I'm sure you'd love Lotus Sametime then. It's a ~90MB install file and takes a good 25 minutes to install...

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  15. Re:VoIP by jbrax · · Score: 3, Informative

    So ... will it support VoIP?

    Check out this open source VoIP and video conferencing software http://www.openwengo.com/

    WengoPhone 2.1 has instant messaging support, implemented using libgaim, can connect to MSN Messenger, OSCAR protocol based networks such as AIM or ICQ, XMPP based networks such as Google Talk and Jabber, and the Yahoo Messenger networks.

  16. New Sounds Are Nice! by Sounder40 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you like the new sounds in Pidgin, you can thank the artist who developed them by going to Magnatune.com and buy his album. Not just because you like the Pidgin sounds, not just because you like Indie Rock, but because you like independent music and independent music publishers like Magnatune. Lot's of good karma available by buying this one.

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  17. Re:Kill pidgin by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you've been reading up on the whole Gaim/Pidgin thing, you'll notice their lawyers told them to not make any drastic changes until they resolved the dispute. Since that's over with, I'd expect to see a whole bunch of new shiny things in the next few months.

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  18. Re:Psychic mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not funny, informative!! It actually does that!!

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  20. Re:They should learn form adium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In Adium:

    Preferences -> Messages. Then choose "minimal_mod" for the "Message Style".

    Less than a minute.

  21. Re:Supports MSN Offline messages? by thaig · · Score: 2, Informative

    Select Tools->Buddy pounce.

    Your client must be left on and running for this to work. It has been in GAIM for a while now.

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  22. Re:pidgin by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

    See past news articles regarding GAIM vs. AOL lawsuits - Development pace (and scope) was slowed down significantly due to the lawsuit.

    In essence, per their lawyers' advice, the developers agreed not to make any major releases while negotiations were going on.

    As to why there wasn't too much progress in their betas - if there had been significant progress other than a UI overhaul and bugfixes, AOL would likely have claimed that their "betas" were really releases that were only being called betas as a loophole.

    The trademark lawsuit has been fully resolved, so what matters is where things go in the future, and I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of progress now. I wouldn't be surprised if the developers have been working on voice/video support in a seperate codebase somewhere but keeping it quiet until the lawsuits were resolved.

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  23. Re:27MB install for a IM program? by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2, Informative

    no, that's the size of the installer. now run that installer and read how much disk space it says is required. "dude".

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  24. Re:Pidgin? by aksenkto! · · Score: 2, Informative

    Das How! What is this guy talking about? http://www.twojapaneebruddahs.com/2005_07_01_2jb_a rchive.html ...the definition of pidgin for some 1.2 million people.

  25. Re:Pidgin? by identity0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a Linguistics student taking a course called "Pidgins and Creoles", I should probobly explain the concept...

    A pidgin is a language that combines aspects of two languages, and is created by people who have a need to talk to someone who doesn't speak their language. The language usually has words taken from one language, and syntax from another. A pidgin is a language which is used only in certain situations, like an employer giving orders to employees or merchants trading in a marketplace.

    If a mixed language becomes the native language of a community, it's called a 'creole' language.

    I realize that 'pidgin' has negative connotations because it often arises in social situations like slavery or colonialism, but the languages themselves are not a sign of uneducatedness but a natural result of different language communities mixing.

    Note that what Pidgin(the software) does isn't pidgin - it's more like multilingualism with many protocols. A "real" pidgin would be like combining the AIM and MSN protocols into one.

  26. Re:No Jabber? by FrankNFurter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Jabber is still supported. The account type is now called 'XMPP' though.

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