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Obama Requests Creative Commons for Presidential Debates
Presidential hopeful Barack Obama recently submitted a letter to the DNC asking for the Presidential debates to be licensed under the Creative Commons. This move would give everyone the freedom to share, recut, and edit the debates as they wish. "I am a strong believer in the importance of copyright, especially in a digital age. But there is no reason that this particular class of content needs the protection. We have incentive enough to debate. The networks have incentive enough to broadcast those debates. Rather than restricting the product of those debates, we should instead make sure that our democracy and citizens have the chance to benefit from them in all the ways that technology makes possible."
It's worth noting, though, that if this is just a Democratic National Committee matter, it would of course only apply to the Democrats' internal debate, and not the actual presidential debates which come later. Baby steps, baby steps..
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Specificly, from TFA:
"The letter asks that the video from any Democratic Presidential debate be available freely after the debate, by either placing the video in the public domain, or licensing it under a Creative Commons (Attribution) license."
There are many kinds of Creative Commons licenses, and not all of them are as permissive as the requested one.
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You fallen for the trap that conservative == religious nut job. There are lots (I hope the non-vocal majority) of conservatives that don't want to blow up abortion clinics and force religion on people. The same way there are lots of liberals that don't think choice means allowing abortions 9 months into a pregnancy.
It's easy to label people with extreme views, but in reality most people are somewhere in the middle.
I thought I'd heard that MSNBC? was covering the debates, and was trying very hard to lock in all the content to themselves where no one could really publish parts of it, etc.
You thought right: Here's the previous Slashdot Article.
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- WAIVE THE COPYRIGHT AND PLACE IT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN , or barring that,
- place it under (SPECIFICALLY) the Creative Commons (Attribution) license. (Yes he specified one: http://creativecommons.org.nyud.net:8080/licenses
/ by/3.0/ , if it's down, here's Wikisource of v2.5 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_Att ribution_2.5#English )
Reading theArticle summarizations that give half the story like this are why rms has to be such a pedantic language lawyer when speaking. Clarification of the article would be appreciated, scuttlemonkey.
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I spent a couple years living in Hyde Park, Chicago -- University of Chicago neighborhood where Obama lived (lives I guess), represented, etc. He's immensely popular there, and very well liked. Everyone I've ever talked to that has met him, has had good things to say about him.
Obama is a hard person not to like. Personally, I'm not wild about a lot of his vews--in his two years in the senate he has one of the very most left-wing voting records alongside Kerry, Kennedy, etc. But despite this, he's somehow managed to garb himself in the clothes of a moderate and a uniter? I'm not sure I see that... I'm not sure where in his record I should look to find this either. Despite this though, I like the guy..
Obama by all accounts HAS kept himself clean (minus some small real estate possible scandal). That's helped him out popularity-wise in Chicago--they carted away current and former politicians by the dozen while I lived there.. Back to Obama.. He's well educated and a powerful public speaker. He's got a definite charisma and he knows how to use it. Perhaps most importantly, he knows what to say--just look at the excitement that has built up around somehow who's been in national politics for two years.
Honestly, I think one could easily draw parallels between Ronald Reagan and Obama on that front--could Obama be the next Great Communicator? I don't know.. I also have no idea what Obama would actually do, beyond the party-line typical stuff that he has said in the past and/or voted for. Like the p/gp/ggp whoever else said, we don't really have a clue what his platform is.
Uhm, just going by the other Slashdot article, there's no mention of "stealing" a myspace page. The guy asked for $49,000+, they said "uhm, no, that's okay, we'll start a new one", and that was that. That isn't theft. That's declining to agree to a deal they felt wasn't worth it. Mayhaps things have changed since then, but there's a big fucking difference between not buying what someone is offering and then finding an alternative, and just taking it from him. By that logic, every time I decline to purchase an RIAA backed artist and instead buy from an Indie band, I'm stealing from the afore mentioned RIAA artist. Seems kinda silly, doesn't it?
More technical authority (one vote in Congress vs. 0), probably less, realistically so. Look up "bully pulpit".
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That guy named a site after a well-known person and attempted to hold it ransom for much more than it was worth.
It was clearly marked as a "fan site.".. The price tag the guy set on it was to pay him back for the 160,000 user community he had formed which even myspace said he had a right to. He didn't want to stop doing the page--he would've kept doing the fan site for free. He asked for cash because, since they were forcing off his own project anyway, he thought he should be compensated for what he had lost.
The campaign didn't negotiate with him, and ended up promising him $10,000. This happened briefly before they strong-armed myspace to step in. It is not for you to say how much he can sell his OWN stuff for. Judging from the amount of work he put into it, and that he didn't want to give it up, it's obvious to me that he was not asking for too much.
The guy didn't have a right to Obama's name. He also didn't have a right to force himself into the campaign as he attempted.
He wasn't doing anything like that. He made the page and started it from the ground up and was an avid supporter of Obama, just trying to do his part. Over time, the community got huge under his care, and Obama's campaign stepped in and said "hey, nice work, gimme!".
Note that only the link - barack obama's name - got transferred, the idiot still has his page.
What? No. They transfered it to another URL and dropped his friends. All myspace did was transfer his text to another account. He lost EVERYTHING of value.
Losing a URL to a website, as any idiot can piece together, often ends an online community. This community was not created by the obama campaign. They could've setup an "official" page with a different URL and left this poor guy alone. Instead, they hijacked myspace's terms of service and fear of law suits to steal this guy's URL and destroy all his work.
The site was clearly labeled "unofficial," and the entire community knew it as such. The campaign simply wanted the address. Personally, I think it hurt them more than their new URL could ever help.
He deserves what he got. If you don't want your site to be transferred, don't name it after a public figure. If this had been a registrar issue the result would have been no different.
Registrar issues are vastly different than free myspace accounts. He wasn't even posing as Obama, so there's no legal issue here. Obama does not own the myspace.com/barackobama url any more than he owns en.wikipedia.com/Barack_Obama.
If I were Joe Anthony, I'd sue the Obama campaign if I could.
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Obama's letter shows an understanding of the distinction between waiving copyright and licensing.
The parent makes an excellent point. Also I want to point out that it's not very surprising that Obama knows the distinction between waiving a copyright and licensing, he has a JD from Harvard and taught constitutional law for over ten years See Wikipedia
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This is not blackmail and I'm not a "squatter".
They wanted the profile and asked me to propose a fee, and indicated that Myspace was ok with this. I have no experience making such proposals and had no idea what to ask for.
I proposed a fee, and now they're accusing me of looking for a "big payday".
This is not blackmail. This is not me cashing in on the profile.
I do not believe that one person on that profile, who has personally witnessed the close personal attention I've dedicated to this community since 2004 would disagree with this.
And then come back and say that you can be sure that campaign has treated Joe with all the respect that he deserved.He didn't STEAL anything, he created his own page separate from the one he offered to buy. It's equivalent to asking for the price of a house saying it's way too much and then going off and building your own.
$50K is quite a large sum for a myspace page regardless of the work that has gone into it. my guess is it was SO far out of whack with what they were expecting to pay that they didn't even bother trying to negotiate and instead determined that it would be more economical to simply make their own.
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I want to clarify some things:
1. Joe Anthony "locked out" the Obama campaign by changing the password after the campaign rejected his $50k offer. So they no longer had access.
2. Anthony violated MySpace ToS by creating a site representing himself as Barack Obama. He didn't call it a fan site. He didn't say "People for Obama" or whatever.
3. Obama didn't take ANYTHING from Anthony EXCEPT the URL. That's it. All Anthony has to do is pick another, more acceptable URL and his page with all 160k friends will be restored
4. The page was being updated less and less frequently and at the same time it was growing more and more popular. The campaign needed to manage its resource more effectively. Go figure.
Actually, I think he's more or less correct:
1) Obama's team started a new site.
2) They applied to have the url myspace.com/barackobama pointed to the new official site.
3) Myspace shut down the old fan page because the owner wasn't Barrack Obama
I don't know if Obama's team intended for step 3 to take place. When you understand the events, it's hard to see this as a black and white issue instead of just an angry disagreement between people. It wasn't handled very deftly, so I guess the lesson for everyone involved is:
When you act like an ass you get burned.
That applies to both the volunteer and Obama's campaign staff.
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uhm... I think a lot of people missed the point here... This isn't about the little myspace thing. This is about NBC thinking they own the debates. http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/ 28/0646215
Sheesh..... Way to hijack.
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Maybe it's nitpicking, but I wish people would get this right. Choosing to license your work with a Creative Commons license does not mean you're giving up your copyright. The contents of my blog are still mine and ©Tim Wilson. I'm simply giving permission to use the contents under the specific terms of the Creative Commons license I choose. In other words, if I select a non-commercial variant of Creative Commons and a publisher includes my content in a for-profit publication, I can still go after them for violating the license.
The widespread misconception that (Creative Commons == public domain) is holding Creative Commons back from wider adoption.
In your case, she probably had what's called a bikini incision - low, horizontal, and where it would be covered by a bikini. For emergency C-sections (and hydroencephalic fetuses, and they actually used to do for everyone), they do high vertical incisions, and have to move the intestines out of the way.
I know it's pedantic, but you seem to be confusing your C-section incisions a bit. Getting through the skin and getting through the uterus are two separate issues.
The "bikini" (Pfannenstiel) incision is the superficial, skin incision.
The midline vertical incision is also a superficial, skin incision.
The midline vertical is sometimes used in emergency C-sections due to a relatively rapid entry with minimal blood loss. A skilled obstetrician can usually get into the abdomen with no difference in time or outcome with a Pfannenstiel, provided a controlled OR to work in. In extreme emergencies, such as death of the mother in an MVC, a vertical incision all the way to the baby can be made with no tools besides the scalpel. That is a relatively rare scenario.
Once through the skin (and fat, fascia, and peritoneum) you enter the abdomen and need to make an incision in the uterus to get the baby out. The choice of incision depends on several factors, including the position of the baby, location of the placenta, fibroids, ability to get the bladder out of the way, etc. That said, the choice of incision is almost always a low transverse or low vertical incision, even in emergencies.
High vertical incisions don't heal as well and are more prone to rupture in subsequent pregnancies. They are very rare, in spite of your claims to the contrary.
At any rate, I have never seen a C-section where the obstetrician is "lifting the intestines up out of the body and putting them on the chest so that you can get to the uterus underneath" as you claim in your previous post. It is actually almost physically impossible. I would question the sanity of the obstetrician who tried it to see if it could be done.
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Pst...Obama's people asked him for a price, he gave one. If you're really going to condemn the guy as someone "in it for the money" when he was asked for a price then you obviously have a different viewpoint than me. For me, if you ask someone for a price on something you don't then balk and go in and get it shut down or whatever, you negotiate and try to get a better price or you give up and let him keep it.
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