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Migrating a Radio Station To Linux?

Posted by Cliff on from the penguins-like-music-too dept.

allikat_uk asks: "I'm a DJ for a net radio station (amongst other hobbies). I want to migrate from an XP platform running (SAM Broadcaster) to a Linux based solution. I don't need to host the server, as the station does that, I just need a nice GUI solution to stream the MP3 files to the server. I need to run 2 streams, 64k stereo, and 22k mono in MP3 to a shoutcast clone server. My current software has a nice MySQL database to make quickly finding the tracks I want easy, dual playback 'decks' and easy voiceovers. Is there a Linux equivalent available under GPL?"

32 comments

  1. Serveral solutions by Skinkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are serveral GPL'ed solution made. http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ Look here for more: http://ross.sourceforge.net/

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  2. Ask not... by binaryspiral · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Ask not what the open source community can do for you. Ask what YOU can do for the open source community."

    1. Re:Ask not... by hax0r_this · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People don't write open source software so that others can write their own, they write it so that others will use it. Its one thing if someone is bitching about a problem they have with an open source application, but the whole point of open source is that others will use it, so you can't really criticize someone for wanting to use it.

    2. Re:Ask not... by 26199 · · Score: 1

      Hey, I recognise that quote... isn't it from an episode of Red Dwarf?

    3. Re:Ask not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really need a sense of humour. The parent wasn't complaining, but just picking up a quote.

    4. Re:Ask not... by teh+moges · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine the benifit of having a happy customer broadcasting the message across to an audience would boost the open source industry well. Some people are programmers, some are designers, some spread the message...

    5. Re:Ask not... by binaryspiral · · Score: 0, Troll

      Who was criticizing? All I'm saying is offer to do something for the community, not ask the community to do something for you.

      Okay, maybe that's tough to wrap your head around it...here, let me break it down for you.

      0. If there isn't a perfect open source clone for software xyz that runs on linux, I would be interested in helping.

      1. Visit me at work, I'll show you what our current system looks like, how it works, and what we use it for. Maybe then we can hammer out some details.

      2. Here's a list of features that would really kick ass, and I sketched up a GUI that would make it easy for our current users to pick it up easy.

      3. I like package XYZ, but it's missing feature ABC and KFJ. And it's tough to use because...

      I dunno, maybe it's just me - but I see an awful lot of asking for software from the OS community, but not a lot of asking to help.

  3. Openjay.org by reality-bytes · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd recommend asking the same question to the folks over at OpenJay.org as they catalog and discuss all such software.

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  4. Compliance Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would suggest using Vista instead so you'll be DMCA, DRM, RIAA, ClearChannel, and 2K7-FTW compliant.

    1. Re:Compliance Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of those will make you customer compliant.

  5. MPD works well by etnoy · · Score: 1

    The MPD music player daemon can quite easily be integrated with icecast for streaming. You get GUI control (via a fashionable MPD client) and a good streaming server (icecast works perfectly for me). Problem is, only OGG is supported at the moment.
    A howto about MPD/icecast installation can be found here.

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  6. Server and Client by TerminaMorte · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a solution done with shoutcast + jackd + oddcastv3 and BASH.

    Download: http://wipzradio.com/radio-2007-01-30.tar.gz

    Client just needs a streaming client and an SSH client; server records shows, allows you to do remote broadcasts (along with chuck you can censor the live broadcast!) and a number of other nifty things. It's still beta, but it's working just fine (stable for over 200 days now).

    Listen to the stream at http://wipzradio.com/ ;)

  7. I agree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it ain't broke don't fix it.

    Captcha: torturer. WTF?

  8. 2K7-FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2K7-FTW must be a new one... was it released this year? Where can I find the spec?

  9. Several solutions by 40ohms · · Score: 1

    Take a look at Rivendell. In the commercial realm there is also a Linux based commercial product from Smarts Broadcast. Others may be in the works. I know of another fairly well known company that has been discussing putting a new system on the Linux platform.

  10. Rivendell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only one I have come accross is

    http://www.rivendellaudio.org/

    also I know something was developed for BeOS

    Good Luck Miklk!

  11. Icecast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using Icecast for several years now. http://icecast.org/

    1. Re:Icecast by mikelieman · · Score: 1

      Icecast on the backend and a workstation running idjc for the frontend.

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    2. Re:Icecast by pvjr · · Score: 1

      IDJC with icecast2 server. Two consoles with fade, you can go auto or run it manually. Mic and phone input, and I believe skype support. mp3, og, and aac support as well.

  12. Re:MPD works well - just not for the poster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it only supports OGG, it's not going to do him and his MP3 files any good.

  13. Not Linux but Open Source by foniksonik · · Score: 1

    Darwin Streaming Server can be run on Darwin on any intel PC.... Darwin is Apple's OS BSD-like kernel. Maybe an option? It's a Quicktime Streaming server without OS X or the need to by a Mac or Xserve.

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  14. radio paradise... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 1

    http://www.radioparadise.com/ the same guy that does this is/was the engineer for kpig radio in gilroy, ca, the FIRST internet radio station :)
    they have been running on linux there for some time now. They are a landbased station too so they need to follow some laws... but bill was interviewed by linux journal in 2004 about the setup there. (the dj's call the main server HAL :)

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  15. Re:Serveral solutions, more by batteryman · · Score: 1

    http://www.rivendellaudio.org/
    Here is another:
      Rivendell is a complete radio broadcast automation solution, with facilities for the acquisition, management, scheduling and playout of audio content. It has all of the features one would expect in a modern, fully-fledged radio automation system, including support for both PCM and MPEG audio encoding, full voicetracking and log customization as well as support for a wide variety of third party software and hardware. As a robust, functionally complete digital audio system for broadcast radio applications, Rivendell uses industry standard components like the GNU/Linux Operating System, the AudioScience HPI Driver Architecture and the MySQL Database Engine. Rivendell is available under the GNU Public License.

  16. Re:MPD works well - just not for the poster by nnet · · Score: 1

    mpd supports ogg/mp3/wav and others.
    However its not SAM or anything close to it.

  17. 64k mp3? by Per+Wigren · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Unless your station is talk-only, 64k stereo/22k mono mp3 is totally unlistenable. If you don't have the bandwidth for a "full" 128k ogg or aac stream, at least provide a ~80k stereo ogg/vorbis stream. Not much more bandwidth but it will be listenable without giving headaches. Or send a single "full quality" 128k ogg stream to the PeerCast network while providing the modem/isdn-streams like you do now.

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    1. Re:64k mp3? by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      64k stereo is fine for MP3. I usually listen to the 56k stereo streams on my favorite netradio station and aside from sounding a bit like FM radio, they sound fine. Unlistenable is definitely not the word.

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  18. Was at a radio station that used Xenix in 1988 by dbIII · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I'm suprised people don't think it's ready.

    I used to help out at a radio station that used Xenix in 1988 for a variety of good reasons - linux is a lot better than Xenix ever was and is useful for the same reason. Server 2003 or win2k I can understand but why use a home computer operating system like XP in a professional environment where a keyboard lock up of thirty seconds has real consequences? Even with dual processor systems on XP there are far too many situations where the user has to just sit and stare at the screen until the machine lets them use their keyboard again.

  19. Rivendell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rivendell is a complete radio broadcast automation solution, with facilities for the acquisition, management, scheduling and playout of audio content. It has all of the features one would expect in a modern, fully-fledged radio automation system, including support for both PCM and MPEG audio encoding, full voicetracking and log customization as well as support for a wide variety of third party software and hardware. As a robust, functionally complete digital audio system for broadcast radio applications, Rivendell uses industry standard components like the GNU/Linux Operating System, the AudioScience HPI Driver Architecture and the MySQL Database Engine. Rivendell is available under the GNU Public License. Further design details are available

    http://www.rivendellaudio.org/

  20. Migrating a Radio Station To Linux? by midol · · Score: 1

    Is there something you want that dynebolic won't do?

  21. Rivendell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, no link, but Rivendell is pretty awesome. It might be a little overkill for streaming radio, but it has everything a full-featured professional radio station would need.

  22. Re:Serveral solutions, more by zeropointburn · · Score: 1

    Have you ever tried using Rivendell?
    Best be using SuSE pro, or best of luck getting the GPIO or ASI components to compile.
    If you've used any other automation system, the interface makes little sense.

    Those issues aside, if you can make it work, go for it. It's probably a bit much just for streaming to a shoutcast server, but I don't have any personal experience with a program that is just right.

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