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New Legislation to Combat Identity Theft

coondoggie writes to tell us the Washington Post is reporting that new legislation in a numbers of states and the District of Columbia allows consumers to place a "security freeze" on their credit files. "For the millions of consumers who receive notice each year that their personal or financial data was lost or stolen, a preemptive security freeze can offer peace of mind. It blocks businesses and potential fraudsters from gaining access to a consumer's credit report and score and from granting new lines of credit in the consumer's name. In many states, consumers who want to remove the freeze can use a special identification number to unlock access to their credit file."

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  1. Brilliant by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In many states, consumers who want to remove the freeze can use a special identification number to unlock access to their credit file.


    Yeah, that's a good idea... So how many ID-Ten-T consumers are going to carry this number around -- in their wallets/purses or leave them unsecured in a filing cabinet? When will legislators get a clue that most people are complete ignorant about the security of almost anything?

    1. Re:Brilliant by g_adams27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > Yeah, that's a good idea... So how many ID-Ten-T consumers are going to carry
      > this number around -- in their wallets/purses


      Probably close to 0% - why would anyone do that?

      or leave them unsecured in a filing cabinet?

      Probably a lot, if by "unsecured filing cabinet" you include, say, pretty much anywhere inside a house.

      So what's wrong with that?

      > When will legislators get a clue that most people are complete
      > ignorant about the security of almost anything?


      The vast majority of identity theft is done by electronic means - card skimming, phishing, social engineering, etc. I doubt seriously that most of it comes from robbers who are rooting around in unsecured filing cabinets. If you have people poking around at your files in unsecured filing cabinets, then you have bigger problems than whether or not they stole your secret code to unlock your credit report.

      This is excellent legislation, and an fine way to deal with a lot of credit report problems before they happen. I'm really not sure why you're mocking it. Your scoffing seems to indicate that no solution that is not 100% foolproof and stops the problem dead, utterly and completely, is worth pursuing. I'm glad most states don't agree with that.

    2. Re:Brilliant by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      At least it gives an option to those of us who have to carry around the other pieces information. It gives us something that can stay secret. Not like the Social Security Number, Date Of Birth, address, and all the other easily obtainable information. At least this is something that people who are interested in the security of their credit information can keep secret.

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  2. Re:OK but ... by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you aren't buying a house, car, or a new credit card, you should preemptively freeze your credit and leave it that way.

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  3. Stop dilly dalling by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just give us one time keys.

    If I can use a piece of important information only once before it changes then nobody can replay it.

    Incidentally, how do you prove you are you to actually put the freeze/unfreeze in place?

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  4. Goverment one step behind by Applekid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a private company (Lifelock is the one I hear on the radio all the time) that also has the ability to lock down your credit. No new legislation required, it would seem. Of course, that costs money so maybe this legislation just enables individuals to lock their credit at the taxpayer's expense.

    This is also supposed to stop those pre-approvals that constantly clog up your mailbox... (well, mine at least.)

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  5. I use cash for most of my purchases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yes, I've gone back to cold, hard cash. Sure, I keep a credit card for emergency purposes (road break-downs and such), but I don't really use it much. I don't buy things over the Internet, and yep, I check my listed credit history with the credit bureaus.

  6. Oh yeah.... by iknownuttin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    More "legislation" to correct a problem.

    And what lobbyists were in on this "legislation"? Hmmmm, do you think the credit bureaus and the banks? Hmmmm????

    Sorry, whenever there's "Legislation" I automatically think that the industry lobbyists wrote it.

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    1. Re:Oh yeah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, the 3 credit bureaus fought it. They argue that when Joe Blow walks into his neighborhood Ford dealership and wants to walk out with a car, he'll have to wait if his credit report is frozen. It can take a few business days to unlock it temporarily. The 3CBs argued that having to wait to make a purchasing decision / apply for new credit would hurt the consumer.

  7. A More In-Depth Look Here by tsu+doh+nimh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Post also ran a much longer, more in-depth piece looking at the process of passing freeze legislation in Delaware, easily the most banking- and business-friendly state in the union. That piece is here

    One highlight, which looks at the role of the Consumer Data Industry Association (CDIA), the lobbyist group that works for the data broker industry and the credit bureaus:

    "Goldberg, who has worked with advocates in more than a dozen states to enact freeze legislation, said that in 2005 the CDIA and the credit-reporting agencies shifted their strategy. They no longer were outright opposed to credit-freeze laws; instead, they worked to convince states to allow the bureaus to charge as much as possible when consumers place, lift or remove credit freezes. "The credit reporting agencies clearly want consumers to pay more for the security freeze than we certainly think they should," Goldberg said. "But given that those same agencies collect all of this sensitive financial data about consumers and then turn around and sell it, we think they should also have the obligation to protect the consumer, and that's where the security freeze comes in.

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  8. Re:Why does this problem still exist? by ISoldat53 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Also make the credit reporting companies liable for the cost of the purchase if credit is denied based on faulty credit information.

  9. What about the cops!?! by toy4two · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure this is great if your identity is stolen to use your credit to rip some business off. But it does NOTHING to prevent people from using your identity when pulled over for a traffic ticket. It happened to me. Here in California all you need to do is tell a cop you don't have your ID, then give them someone else's information so they can run through the computer, when it checks out, they write that person a ticket with the other person's name. That person drives off scot free and a few monthes later you get a warrant out for your arrest for Failure to Appear in court. Let me tell you the pit in your stomach when you are wrongly accused of a crime, your insurance refuses to renew you, your local DMV refuses to renew your license, you get to drive to work with no license and insurance and you can't even go into a bar because your drivers license cannot be renewed. Of course you only find out about this just before your license is about to expire, when you need a license the most because you have no way of looking up your driving records for free. Then you get to go to court, in my case in Northern California when I live in San Diego to prove using ATM slips, credit card reciepts, and your signature and a picture of your car that you not only don't match the description of this person but that you have tons of paper trail to prove you never left your home town and tons of witnesses to say you were at work that day. Its a huge hassle. Why not make cops take a finger print of anyone they pull over if they can't provide ID, or take their picture. Can a police officer on here please explain to me why they just trust a criminals word when they are giving a name and address that it is as good as a CA Drivers License, that is pathetic.