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A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft

Dieppe writes "A simple chip added to a DVD disk could prevent retail theft. According to the AP article at MSNBC, the chip would be activated at the register to make a previously dark area of the DVD clear, and therefore readable. Could this help to stem the tide of the approximate $400 million dollars in losses from brick and mortar stores? Game console DVDs could also be protected this way too. Could this help to bring the prices down on DVD games and movies?"

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  1. LOL by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could this help to bring down the prices????? You HAVE to be kidding. That really is funny.

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    1. Re:LOL by Strilanc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A drop in the price isn't worth it. You know how every once in awhile someone walks out of the store and the alarm goes off because a cashier didn't deactivate a tag correctly? Imagine that happening, but you only find out after an hour-long drive home.

    2. Re:LOL by ZombieWomble · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You do realise that this article at no point refers to piracy or similar issues? This is dealing with actual physical theft from the stores - stock that the shop buys, and someone walks in and takes without paying for it. It's the thing the standard slashdot meme set explicitly uses as an example of "stealing" as opposed to copyright infringement. And since it's so clearly defined, this is not measured through reduced sales or the like, but is actual, explicit losses incurred by the stores (I'm sure padded to some degree, but infinitely more believable than the various RIAA-style numbers). Hence why this content protection does absolutely nothing to prevent copying or general piracy, but does significantly inhibit casual shoplifting.

      I congratulate you on your devious combinations of stock lines to grab some karma which is completely unrelated to the story at hand, but do try and at least glance at the article the next time?

  2. Sorta cool by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as I can still back up my DVD's to my HDD and then view them off my own burned DVD's, I don't care what they do!

    You try keeping your daughter from destroying those Disney DVD's that are only released once a few decades!

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  3. Copy protection by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $10 bucks say they try to find a way to add copy protection into the chip as well.

  4. Hahahah by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Could this help to bring the prices down on DVD games and movies?"

    No, but it could raise the profit margin.

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  5. End the sentence by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I magically know how these end, dunno why, so I filled in the gaps for all of you:

    A simple chip added to a DVD disk COULD prevent retail theft, but won't.
    Game console DVDs COULD also be protected this way too, but won't.
    COULD this help to bring the prices down on DVD games and movies? It won't.


    Bottom line is, apparently on Slashdot you can substitute "could" with "won't" and you get to read the actual material we're handed. Cut down the pointless speculation guys, it's lame.
  6. Preemptive Strike! by dj_tla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Article should read At home, using a cheap Chinese device, the chip is activated and sends an electrical pulse through the coating, turning it clear and making the disc playable.
    China thanks you for creating another black market for it to thrive in.

  7. Why steal retail? by fugu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it just be easier to download the movie instead of risking getting caught shoplifting? =p

  8. Cop Math by rueger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Retail theft of entertainment products, including video games, accounts for as much as $400 million in annual losses, according to the Entertainment Merchants Association.

    I just love those numbers. I'm much more concerned about the estimated $120 million in lost productivity resulting from time spent dealing with broken shoelaces, and the estimated $275 million in annual losses to people who are shortchanged by hot dog vendors.

    How about a moratorium on all numbers that were pulled out of a PR guy's ass?

  9. Re:"A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft" by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This "protection mechanism" will be broken, just like every other one has been. If it only need to be activated, professional criminals will have access to the tools necessary to activate the DVD player. It will be useless and only aggravate the life of the consumer, so it will come and go just like other protection systems.

  10. History Says: Prices will go Up. by Domo-Sun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it should lower the markup on the DVD's because they don't need to recoup their (real world physical) losses due to theft.

    Isn't that what the record industry said when CD's came out?

    "The price will come down."

    Then, they changed it to, "Well, you're getting better quality. That's why CD's are so expensive."

  11. Brilliant! by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make it even more inconvenient to buy legitimate copies. That'll sure encourage people to buy them instead of resorting to piracy.

  12. Re:"A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft" by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wasn't confused. The mechanisms are strikingly similar, though. The chip is activated at the register and the DVD is now readable. Professional thieves will have access to the method of activation because that's what they do. Thieves have tools related to their trade. Steal a set of DVDs just like you always did, activate them, and sell them (or, more likely steal them and fence them to a man who has the tools). It will stop the theft of DVDs for only about 15 minutes, all the while introducing another level of complexity and failure into the legal purchase process.

  13. It must be magic by jkabbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am sure that they can invent something that can be installed on a million cash registers in the United States but will be impossible to procure by any other means. Why didn't anyone else think of this earlier?

  14. Yeah, no. by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Judging by how often the door alarm goes off, a chip being activated or deactivated at the register has a HIGH RATE OF FAILURE.

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  15. Yeah right, by omahajim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's like TicketBastard lowering their labor and distribution costs by allowing you to print tickets at home on your own printer, instead of having them mailed. But it costs the consumer *more* to print their own ticket at home (isn't it like $3 extra???) and mailing, which should cost them more, is no extra charge. What a racket.

  16. Re:"A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft" by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's been a number of occasions when I've bought stuff and the staff have forgotten to remove the security tags or they haven't been deactivated properly. At the moment that only means you might set off the alarm on the way out of the store or in other stores but with this system it may mean you get home and find the DVD is unplayable which means a trip back to the store for a replacement.

  17. Re:"A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft" by jimicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which isn't going to be particularly easy if you meet a clerk who is under the impression that the deactivation process is 100% perfect and the only way you could possibly have a DVD which is unreadable is because you stole it.

  18. Re:"A Chip on DVDs Could Prevent Theft" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there something wrong with the current system of sticking the little white plastic thing on the box that sets of an alarm if it's not disabled?

    I admit that I don't do a lot of shopping for media in brick'n'mortar stores, but the last time I did, they had this seemingly elegant system for theft control.

    I don't see how this new "chip on a disc" system is a revolutionary improvement.

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  19. I wish they'd stop treating me like a criminal. by thesandtiger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can guarantee that the first time I experienced getting home and popping in a DVD that had not been activated would be the last time I buy a DVD from a brick and mortar store. Possibly the last time I bought a DVD, period.

    I'm an honest person - I don't steal. I'm tired of being treated like a criminal, tired of being inconvenienced because some people are criminals, tired of the assumption being that I'm guilty. I'm tired of that fucking alarm going off when I walk out of a store and everyone looking at me like I'm a thief because the security tag wasn't deactivated. I'm tired of security guards at stores thinking they have a right to look through my bags. I'm tired of ruining my nails and cutting my fingers thanks to clamshell packaging.

    Wanna know how to reduce theft, increase sales and all without making people feel like scumbags? Change your fucking business model to one that addresses the needs consumers actually have. The fact that your store security is for shit is *NOT* *MY* *PROBLEM*. Will Best Buy give me a new stereo if someone breaks into my home and steals mine? No. So why should I pay when they get robbed?

    Here's an idea: Have machines at stores that hold spindles and spindles of DVDs and CDs. Have the customer swipe their credit card at the machine and select the movie they want, and then a pre-made DVD (for a "hot" new release) can be spit out, or, if it's something that's a little more obscure/rarely needed, it can be burnt on the spot. Don't have or want to use a credit card? No problem - just take a voucher from a display, go to the check-out line, pay with cash and the clerk can activate the code on the voucher - then the machine will give you what you want when you scan your ticket in.

    This would even let there be less packaging and waste. If someone wanted a special collector's edition with all the goodies, keep those in a secure spot and get them when needed.

    For small electronics, why not have vending machines like they do for iPods and cellphones now? It annoys me that I have to waste time getting a clerk to open up a cabinet just to get some $30 item I want - and it's a waste of their time, too.

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