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NASA Unveils Hubble's Successor

dalutong writes "BBC News has an article detailing NASA's replacement for the much-loved Hubble telescope. The $4.5 billion telescope will be placed in orbit 1.5 million km from Earth and will be almost three times the size of the Hubble. It is set to launch in 2013. They also plan to service the Hubble in 2008."

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  1. So if this one breaks ... by johnlcallaway · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... who's going to fix it????

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    1. Re:So if this one breaks ... by pookemon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pffft! As if that would happen... NASA learns from it's mistakes. :)

      They're far more likely to do something new - like tell it to go to the other side of the sun, via the centre of the sun.

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    2. Re:So if this one breaks ... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny
      They're far more likely to do something new - like tell it to go to the other side of the sun, via the centre of the sun.

      That's ok, they can get it to land at night.

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    3. Re:So if this one breaks ... by quinspr70c0l · · Score: 5, Informative

      I recall that the Orion program which is currently under development will have the capability to do the job. It is slated to replace the shuttle and also have the ability to reach the moon. One of the goals was to be able to do a service mission of the JWT far far away. More info here. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/ma in/index.html/

  2. is it just me by callmetheraven · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it just me or does the JWST look kind of like Barbie's Imperial Star Destroyer?

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  3. Gaia by vincnetas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think Gaia probe is more interesting, and it is planned to be launched in 2011 not in 2013 as JWST

  4. Re:Keeping Hubble by Agent+Orange · · Score: 5, Informative

    JWST will provide diffraction-limited images at 2 micron. It will have imaging and spectrographic capabilities in the near and mid-IR -- everything from 6000AA out to 27micron with the mid-IR imager and spectrograph (MIRI). StSci has a JWST primer online here (pdf link).

  5. To quote the article...and wikipedia...and NASA... by DarkEntity · · Score: 5, Informative

    ..."JWST is named after James E Webb, Nasa Administrator during the Apollo lunar exploration era; he served from 1961 to 1968."
    To add more evidence. Look, wikipedia!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Edwin_Webb
    To 1-up wikipedia. Look, NASA!
    http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/whois.html
    The man whose name NASA has chosen to bestow upon the successor to the Hubble Space Telescope is most commonly linked to the Apollo moon program, not to science. Yet, many believe that James E. Webb, who ran the fledgling space agency from February 1961 to October 1968, did more for science than perhaps any other government official and that it is only fitting that the Next Generation Space Telescope would be named after him.

  6. Re:We dont need hubble for visible... by Agent+Orange · · Score: 5, Informative

    Complete bullshit.

    Your cost estimates are accurate, but the rest of your argument is total shit. Adaptive optics, WHEN it works (which is rarely, and with difficulty), can approach the angular resolution of HST in a VERY SMALL field of view. You cannot get 0.05 arcsec, diffraction limited images over a wide field of view, that is possible with HST.

    "Designing a mirror to withstand a launch vehicle" is a problem that has been solved. And the only two current, viable telescope proposals for telescopes larger than 10m are the Thirty Metre Telescope (TMT) and the Giant Magellan Telescope (GMT). OWL is not a concept that is being taken very seriously...ESO certainly hasn't put its money where its mouth is.

    Your final point, about not many lines in that part of the spectrum, belies a complete lack of understanding of what you are talking about. The UV (accessible with STIS, and the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph, which will fly on SM4 in late '08) are so full of lines that they overlap all over the place. See, for example, Morton (2003), ApJS, 149, 205, for a comprehensive list. At low redshift, lines of HI, OI, OVI, CIV, NV, CII, SiII, SII, FeII, NI...all are in the UV, in the STIS band. Furthermore, space is the ONLY place these wavelengths can be observed, because of the atmosphere is opaque to wavelengths shorter than about 3300 angstroms.

  7. Re:Keeping Hubble by NanoGradStudent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was quite the fervent supporter of the Hubble up until I attended a talk by Dr. Philip Stahl, from the Marshall Space Center, and optics technical lead on the new James Webb Space Telescope.

    Yes, the JWST is an infrared telescope. But, as another post further down alludes to incorrectly (for which they were smacked down and corrected by someone else) the James Webb is able to see further back into the history of the universe than we have ever been able to observe. What started out as visible light all those billions of years ago (and billions of light years away) becomes red-shifted into the infrared as the universe expands and, in a nearly literal fashion, stretches out that incoming light.

    So while the Hubble has been responsible for a lot of great science, and truly breath-taking images, we have the potential to do so much more and better understand our universe with the JWST. We haven't maxed out the potential of the Hubble (probably never would), and I would love to keep it, but if there's only enough to deploy the JWST (and it's already been pushed back by several years), or keep on servicing the Hubble, my vote would be in favour of the JWST.

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  8. Why not build two? by syncrotic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Something I've always wondered... how do the R&D costs compare to construction, testing, and launch of a satellite, or in this case, a space telescope? Wouldn't R&D be the hard part here, making the marginal cost of each additional spacecraft relatively small in comparison to the upfront cost?

    It's my understanding that there's a substantial waiting list to use Hubble, and that a lot of very good research can't get done because telescope time is so limited. Time on JWST will probably be similarly limited... if we've spent $3.5B on this thing so far, why not put an extra $250M into it and get twice the benefit?

    Any experts care to weigh in?

  9. Re:I thought space telescopes were obsolete... by rbanffy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ground based telescopes are good only for light that is not filtered by the atmosphere. There is a whole lot of spectrum outside it. The JWST targets the infra-red wavelengths, which would be much harder to do with an atmosphere above it

  10. Re:Keeping Hubble by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If all the money and drama of NASA produced nothing but Hubble it has been worth it. NASA is billing JWST as Hubble's replacement. Is it? Really? Honestly?
    You know, to me, NASA could do nothing but produce obscure scientific data that I would never comprehend, but I'd still support them spending my tax dollars more than the fuckers who waste my money on war. $4.5 billion for a precision scientific instrument is money well spent. $4.5 billion for waging war and murdering your fellow human beings is absolutely criminal.