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Microsoft & SanDisk To Provide Desktop on Thumb Drive

Jesus Christ writes "An Information Week article reports that Microsoft is teaming up with SanDisk to provide users a complete image of their desktops in their pockets, allowing them access not only to their data...but also their applications and user interface setup while on the go. 'The companies plan to add a security layer to the offering using SanDisk's TrustedFlash security and digital rights management technology. The effort will elevate "simple flash storage to a whole new level of customer benefit," said Will Poole, corporate VP for Microsoft's Market Expansion Group. Microsoft also plans to seek out third party-hardware developers to support the initiative, the company said. As part of the plan, SanDisk will phase out its U3 technology, which adds some smart features to USB devices. Independent software developers that have created U3-compatible applications will be offered help migrating their products to the new technology, which has yet to be named.'"

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  1. TrustedFlash security? by mangu · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why do I keep seeing "DRM" in this?


    Funny, nowadays anything that has "trusted" in it seems to me like something I have to distrust...

    1. Re:TrustedFlash security? by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Euphemisms mangle language.

      I was just having a discussion the other day about the word "fantastic". These days it means "great" or "wonderful", but I have been informed that the century before last it meant "unlikely".

      This was because it meant "fantasy-astic", in other words, "unrealistic".

      This use of the word, "trusted" is seeming to me to be meaning "inflexible" or simply "restricted in action".

    2. Re:TrustedFlash security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Trusted computing isn't about providing an environment you, the user can trust. It is about providing an environment copyright holders can trust you to have.

      Like the Soviet Russia jokes, only real.

  2. Re:Let me guess by Anarchysoft · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft said it plans to add support for the technology into its Windows XP and Windows Vista operating systems. Needless to say, GNU/Linux, etc has ran beautifully on removable media for years. I'm surprised MS didn't go for a specialized Windows CE.
  3. Remember the good old days... by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...when a program was a single executable file?

    And by "file" I mean made of manila paper, and by "executable" I mean with holes punched in it.

    Seriously though, why aren't most modern desktop applications portable by design?

    1. Re:Remember the good old days... by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the other hand, it's good to go all the way wiht the limitations of a machine/OS now and then! :)

      Agreed.

      But I'm not sure why my RSS reader needs to be skinnable, semitransparent, dockable to other windows, resident in my tray with an animated popup notification, with a media player widget built in, and hooking into task manager to change the process name to show the currently playing track, finally adding an extra button to every window next to minimize so that I can tweak its settings from anywhere.

      For too many programmers out there test the limitations of an OS utterly needlessly.

    2. Re:Remember the good old days... by nschubach · · Score: 4, Funny

      Agreed. Just give me an RSS reader object that I can drag and drop into whatever container object I so desire...

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    3. Re:Remember the good old days... by N3Roaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      That was previously the case on the Macintosh where the executable typically had everything it needed in the resource fork of the file, but these days the executable file is buried in a folder with a .app filename extension and the folder also contains graphics and other resources that normally would have been in the resource fork or as separate files somewhere else. It's a nice solution, but the default shell Apple provides isn't as smart as the Finder when dealing with these, so running graphical applications from the command line isn't nearly as nice as it should be (you can't just add /Applications to $PATH and say, Preview list_of_files). Still, that's much nicer than the application being an executable file, a few dozen DLLs scattered throughout the system, and a couple hundred registry entries. (On a related note, why do I think I've heard about this already being done with Linux without the DRM?)

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  4. Portable Apps by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks to me like MS finally caught on to Portable Applications and BartPE bootable CDs or USB sticks.

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  5. U3, gen 2 by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know whether to cheer that the U3 flash drives are going away, or to tremble in fear of what these new ones will do.

    I manage college computer labs, and those damn U3 drives have been a recurring hassle. They try to auto-install software on every Windows machine they come into contact with, and require two drive letters (which doesn't work so well in an environment where several key letters are already in use). When used on a Mac, they mount an extra pseudo CD on the desktop, loaded with software that's obviously (but not to many students) utterly useless. If this is in any way an extension or "improvement" upon that, then my job is about to get even harder.

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  6. in other news by voislav98 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft has also announced they will start producing a revolutionary new device, enabling for much more efficient transport of goods. They are calling it the Microsoft Wheel.

    1. Re:in other news by aichpvee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't you mean Microsoft Live! Wheel?

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  7. Re:Let me guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    It will only run on Vista.


    I didn't realize that there was an 80G thumb drive

  8. Licensing by NoMoreFood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It'll be interesting to see how application licensing works for something like this...

  9. Obligatory by ObjetDart · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, is that a desktop in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

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  10. Ripping off MojoPac. by PxM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, they're pretty much trying to create a copy of MojoPac (wikipedia entry) and call it their own? MojoPac does the same thing for Windows, but it's not tied to a single physical device. The good part about this is that when I upgraded from an iPod to an external HD, I was able to take the entire setup with me without a problem. Unfortunately for MS, they are teaming up with a flash disk manufacturer rather than an HD maker. I found that trying to run any real app such as Office off a flash drive was impossibly slow. The reason I upgraded from my iPod to an custom external 7200rpm drive was for the sake of speed. The iPod was faster than running off a flash disk, but was still too slow for most things. Now, I can run all the important applications (e.g. GIMP, and WoW) without any noticeable performance hit off my external drive via MojoPac. It will be interesting to see how MS/Sandisk compare in terms of performance speed to MojoPac. Given how bad U3 was, I would be surprised if they can get it fast enough to run any games off of the device. Unless they can get enough performance off the flash disk to run Office, I don't see them as being a real competitor to MojoPac.

    1. Re:Ripping off MojoPac. by CritterNYC · · Score: 3, Informative

      MojoPac only works on admin-level accounts on Windows XP. No guest or limited accounts (so no libraries, net cafes, offices, schools, hotel business centers, etc). No Windows 2000 or Vista. So, it's pretty limited.

  11. Re:Why is this so hard? by MoxFulder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, it's largely a BIOS problem. BIOS is a freaking travesty of junk 20-year-old code zealously protected by a evil, backward-looking cabal of motherboard and BIOS vendors. It's slow and nonstandardized and often buggy, and it needlessly initializes lots of hardware that's going to be reinitialized by the operating system anyway. Of course, it would be great if we were all running LinuxBIOS, like the OLPC is. It can go from power-on to kernel load in about 1 second, and is completely modular and customizable. Oh, and it can boot Windows and xBSD and probably OSX too. But unfortunately, the chipset and motherboard vendors mostly don't release their docs, so the odds that your desktop mobo is supported by LinuxBIOS are sadly very small.

    All that being said... with modern Linux kernels (2.6.1+ I believe) you can mount partitions based on the UUIDs stored in the partition table (e.g. 8F3B6029A471238F), rather than by what particular interface BIOS sez they're connected to (e.g. /dev/sdg1 or /dev/hda1). This goes a long way to making it easy to install Linux distros on portable drives.

    With Ubuntu Edgy or Feisty, you *can* simply install Linux to a USB hard disk (I've done it without a hitch). It will look for the hard disk partitions based on UUID rather than /dev/whatever, so it won't get confused when you move it from computer to computer. Unfortunately you will still have to figure out how to make each computer boot from USB in the first place, because BIOS IS SO FREAKING GHETTO!

  12. Re:Damn Small Windows? by Tuoqui · · Score: 3, Funny

    Both...

    But we all know the only thing that can shrink Windows that much would be a black hole.

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  13. Just Use PortableApps.com by CritterNYC · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just use PortableApps.com today. It has better compatibility, working with most Windows OSes (95, 98, Me, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista) as well as Wine under *nix. It's open so you can add any software that's already portable to it. And it's much more popular than U3 ever was, with over 20,000,000 apps downloaded. Plus it works from any drive you'd like: USB flash drive, iPod, portable hard drive, network share, etc... so you're never tied down.

  14. Actually, I do by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And after you have dropped a large stack of punch cards, you will realize that the good old days SUCKed. In addition, the card reader was monster. ppl like to remenese about the GOOD OLD DAYS, with out realizing that it is all relative. I like today. Just because MS and other companies are issues, does not mean that things are that bad.

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  15. U3 Uninstaller by localroger · · Score: 4, Informative

    I did not know what U3 was when I got my 512 MB SanDisk, which I got simply because it was the cheapest per MB available at the time. When I plugged it in I noticed that it wanted to install a bunch of garbage. So I unplugged it, held shift down, plugged it back in, and watched it install itself as a normal flash drive. I deleted all the pre-existing crap on the drive, and never had another problem with it.

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    1. Re:U3 Uninstaller by Vexorian · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is not the case for all of them, my Kingston drive kept the U3 stuff in the firmware and I had to download http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ to get rid of it.

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