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Battlestar Galactica To Continue After All

turboflux writes "According to executive producer David Eick, Battlestar Galactica is still an open-ended adventure and it will not be ending after the 4th season as previously reported. Evidently Edward James Olmos jumped the gun on confirming the show would be ending while attending the Saturn Awards this month. Eick goes on to say that the fourth season would actually be 22 episodes (2 more than prior seasons) rather than the reported 13 episode order."

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  1. Battlestar Craptastica by astrotek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the extra episodes are just more of the filler crap they had last season then I wont be watching. Battlestar is a good show when they are actually trying to tell a story. Filler like Black Market sucked. At least Lost had the balls to say the show ends in 48 episodes. If Battlestar keeps the season format they had last season you only need to watch the first 3 and last 3 episodes because everything in the middle isnt related to the story at all.

    Yes I liked the show but the drama crap and all the story rewrites to try to find a new audience is pissing me off.

    1. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not a "drama rewrite", it's that the basic premise is extremely limiting. It's about the Battlestar Galactica carrying the last survivors, and they're being chased by Cylons. There's is no BSG (the series) without the BSG (the ship) or the Cylons. You can't make a "BSG: The Next Generation" because it's not a stable universe, it's a tale of that one ship. You can't add new races, it's not an open universe like Stargete with a colorful selection of races. There's just this chase, these players and the ultimate outcomes are roughly:

      1) The Cylons destroys the BSG
      2) The BSG destroys the Cylons
      3) The Cylons leave the BSG and humanity alone
      4) They end up in a fairytale peace
      5) They find earth and earth kicks the Cylon's ass

      In any case, it's pretty much the end of the story which means they can't actually come to a showdown. They've tried every variation of tangling them together with both sides coming out alive but it gets old. I mean the Cylons must be very close to the prize for most indecisive killers in history. So what can you do if you can't have them actually clash in a meaningful way? Well, you get all the tedium of being on the run. Resource shortages, black markets, equipment failure, insurgents and sabotage, Adama's "keep us going at all cost" attitude, a few skirmishes and mourning a few fighter pilots here and there and some religious search for the way but there's no real dynamic in the show. The basic premise is exactly the same as it was in episode one. They're the BSG, and they're being chased by Cylons, looking for Earth.

      BSG is a show standing still. The only difference is that as of late it's been bad drama instead of good drama.

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    2. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by deblau · · Score: 4, Funny
      You missed an outcome:

      6) They find earth, the Cylons kick earth's ass, but Adama and the BSG crew head through the Stargate to the Alpha Site to begin construction on another Battlestar. O'Neill, Thor, and Oma Desala get cameos.

      Hey, it could happen.

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    3. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by kimvette · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's is no BSG (the series) without the BSG (the ship) or the Cylons. You can't make a "BSG: The Next Generation" because it's not a stable universe, it's a tale of that one ship.


      My god, you have no imagination.

      Imagine this: Galactica 2010. Galactica reaches earth, and a small scouting party go to Earth to learn about the culture and try to find a place to live. They have cheesy flying motorcycles and the children have superhuman jumping ability. In the last shows of that series, Starbuck, who was presumed dead in the current series, will be found to not have died, but to have crashed on a Cylon-occupied world, and in his effort to survive, repairs and befriends a cylon (maybe they can become mates, who knows?). It'd be a great show! Really!

      What? That's been done before? Shit!
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    4. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Galactica 2010. Galactica reaches earth, and a small scouting party go to Earth to learn about the culture and try to find a place to live. They have cheesy flying motorcycles

      LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA ...

      (And you younglings think George Lucas raped YOUR childhoods - at least he waited sixteen years; Glen Larson only waited nine months.)

    5. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You people are forgetting the most obvious conclusion to the series. I came to this right after the pilot movies.

      You see, kobal wasn't the home of the human race. It was a planet colonized by seeder ships from Earth thousands of years ago. We'll call humans from Earth humans 1.0 and the seeded humans, humans 2.0. Well humans 2.0 build a civilization apart from human 1.0 on Earth. Mean while humans 1.0 are carefully watching over humans 2.0 from a distance. When human 2.0 are threatened by a natural disaster humans 1.0 guide human 2.0 to safety at the new colonies. This is where the names of the ancient gods came into play.

      During all this or before this the humans on Earth, humans 1.0, underwent a vorlon like transformation and became humans 3.0. Now the new humans 3.0 decided that after they had lead humans 2.0 to safety it was time for human 2.0 to live on their own. So humans 3.0 left humans 2.0 to fend for themselves.

      Now when human 2.0 reach Earth followed by the Cylons they will find a civilization so far in advanced that they can barely comprehend them. Humans 3.0 will simply tell them there is nothing for them at Earth and they cannot interfere in their affaires. They will send humans 2.0 to their fate.

      As for the thirteenth tribe, they didn't go discover Earth, they just went home.

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    6. Re:Battlestar Craptastica by jotok · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah. I hear they're going to do a spinoff focusing on the zany adventures of one of the private freighters in the fleet and its wisecracking crew. They're going to run dubious cargos and take on odd jobs, all while staying just one step ahead of the Colonials and the Cylons. The tentative title is "Lightning Bug."

  2. As if it wasn't overstreched already... by trenien · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Bad news.

    They're going to try to milk it way after its expiration date.

    And here I was with such great hopes after the last finale.

  3. I quit BSG when they cured the president's by caeili+draziw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    cancer with the magic cylon juice.

    1. Re:I quit BSG when they cured the president's by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't have a problem with a Cylon based cure. It would have been more interesting to have the president need to eat Cylon fetus periodically to stay alive. Then there would always be an edgy back story about her looking for her next fix.

  4. Re:Good, now just go back to blowin shit up, dammi by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You ARE aware that a Cylon winning a dogfight would lead to at least 10 episodes of mourning, griefing and goth-like navel contemplation, yes?

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  5. Terrorism in space by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's when I hit the power button on my control, when I realized that this is where it's going. Cylons looking like humans, everyone could be one, general distrust and the felt backstab-threat... Sounds familiar?

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  6. Re:Good, now just go back to blowin shit up, dammi by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not to mention that they find out about 20 episodes later that he isn't really dead through a dream of a crew member and they start looking for him (5 episodes), find him in some unprobable place (2 episodes), free him from the cylon prison (1 episode) only to find out that he's a cylon imposter (1 episode) and spend a bit of time trying to hunt him all over the ships (5 episodes), until they corner him and he claims he's a traitor and wants to aid humanity (1 episode), leads them to some fuel depots (2 episodes)...

    I think I should ask them if they hire new writers.

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  7. Re:Good, now just go back to blowin shit up, dammi by Ash+Vince · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think I should ask them if they hire new writers.

    Sounds like you write for them already.

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  8. Did Ron Morre kill your dog? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look, I loved Babylon 5. I even liked season 5, and consider the hate it gets to be typical mobthink (notice how other fans always append "except season five" like a mantra). I also know that this is all a matter of personal taste, but your review here is filled with hyperbole. Porn? A handful of sexually charged scenes is not porn. What are you, an evangelical? The camera work lends a nice feel to the space shots. I dunno, man, it's called artistry and creativity. Should BG be a static 3 camera set piece like a sitcom? And "better scripting on daytime soaps" is where you completely lose it. Seriously, something else has to be at the core of your hate here. Are you a big fan of the original series? Are you a Cylon? What?

  9. Re:excellent by mustard · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please. I got tired of Enterprise when they did more time traveling than Doctor Who!

  10. Tricia Helfer by MrSteveSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm really hoping for some experimental episodes where the camera just slowly pans up and down Tricia Helfer's body while she tries on different outfits for 40 minutes.

  11. Re:Hopefully things will continue to turn around by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right now, the Cylons seem not to have any motivation. They wanted to eliminate humanity because, after the last war, they saw it as an 'us or them' situation in the long run, and decided in favour of their own survival. A perfectly logical (if somewhat cold) decision for a civilisation to make.

    Now, they want to find Earth because...? They don't seem to consider destroying the Galactica a priority anymore, which is fine. It's not really a threat, and by the time it is even in the position to form a self-sustaining colony the Cylons could have spread out over hundreds of systems. Their growth rate is exponential, and they have a significant head-start on the humans now they've destroyed the twelve colonies. It doesn't seem likely that humanity could ever threaten more than a few percent of the Cylon race again.

    But, they want to find Earth. Because, uh, actually, I have no idea. I'm not sure that the writers do either. The Cylons just aren't a believable enemy unless they have some motivation for their actions, and right now they don't seem to. Maybe it will be revealed later, but I don't hold out much hope.

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  12. Big babies by groovyghoul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First you want sci-fi, they give it to you... The sci-fi they give you, is the best sci-fi that we have seen on tv... They tell you that they will continue to make said sci-fi... ...and all you do is whine about it. No wonder people make fun of us. -groovyghoul

  13. Moore's Podcast? Anyone? by keith_nt4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I guess no body listens to the podcasts. The producer/writer, Ronald D. Moore, mentioned this a month ago on a podcast. The network made him sweat it out with that "12 episodes" thing but finally said ok to a twenty-something deal. He also said the show has TWO seasons left. He hasn't signed two seasons, he just thinks the story arc has two seasons left. I highly recommend the podcasts by the way...

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  14. BSG doesn't know how to get to its 'ending'. by Nim82 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    BSG is a story based show with a definitive ending, it just doesn't seem to know how to get there.

    The last two seasons, particularly the 3rd, have left me hugely frustrated. The show had so much promise at the start, good cast, gorgeous effects, an interesting plot etc. But it seems to me they just don't know what to do with it all, they have their 'ending' worked out, no doubt, but they just don't seem to know how to flesh out the bit known as the middle.

    They should have planned this out episodically before filming ever began (like JMS did with B5). Not only would it have ensured consistency throughout (read less filler), but it would also have given them an exact number of seasons to aim for and enable them to better budget themselves as well. As I recall Bab5 was consistently *under* budget as a result of the excellent planning which no doubt ensured that it got it's intended 5 seasons, despite some doubts around Season4. Given how exec's like axing sci-fi, being prudent would be a top priority to me.

    I really feel there will be a truckload more filler next season if it isn't the finale. I would rather they just let Zoic create a whole batch of 45 minute space combat sequences, if they can't come up with anything better than love triangles etc - But that would destroy the budget... so no doubt were going to be subjected to more 'Whose in Lee's bed tonight' episodes. At least they blew up the Pegasus, or no doubt they'd go through half a dozen new captains for her as well.

  15. Re:Hopefully things will continue to turn around by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    But, they want to find Earth. Because, uh, actually, I have no idea. I'm not sure that the writers do either.

    During the first season commentary, the producers explain that the entire bit on Caprica was basically done because it was cool. The producer who came up with it (I can't remember which one) had no idea where it was going or why Sharon showed up again on Caprica, he just "thought it would be cool." As the story progressed, they eventually hit on the idea of Cylons trying to procreate, which has never really been well explained.

    So, yes, I expect you're completely correct - the writers are doing this by the seat of their pants and have no idea where it's going either. The Cylons may have a plan, I just wish they'd share it with the writers...

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