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Modern Medicine Might Have Saved Lincoln

Pcol writes "For the past 13 years the University of Maryland School of Medicine has presented a historical clinicopathological conference where they consider famous historical medical cases such as the death of Alexander the Great and composer Ludwig van Beethoven and provide a modern diagnosis and treatment in each case. This year Dr. Thomas M. Scalea, physician-in-chief for the R Adams Cowley Shock Trauma Center discusses if the world's first center for trauma victims could have improved the outcome had Lincoln's assassination occurred in 2007. 'This could be a recoverable injury, with a reasonable expectation he would survive,' Scalea said, noting that assassin's weapon was relatively impotent compared to the firepower now on the streets today. The modern prognosis predicts that Lincoln might have conceivably recovered enough to return to the White House to complete his second term."

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  1. so, what this article is saying is... by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, what this article is saying is, "Today's technology better than technology 150 years ago..."

    And, as pointed out in the article, the weapon used then was relatively impotent. Would it not be safe to consider that if the assassination were committed today the assassin likely would have also used updated technology (i.e., something more, ahem, potent)?

    1. Re:so, what this article is saying is... by peragrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Like a ricin pellet inside an umbrella, and tap the guy on the leg?

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    2. Re:so, what this article is saying is... by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, but the assassin probably wouldn't have been able to get within 30 yards of the President's seats at the theatre either, and probably wouldn't have even been able to get within a block of the theatre without being sent through a couple of metal detectors, patted down, and getting a background check done either. Even then, he probably would have had to have raised a lot of money for the Republican party to get into the theatre itself.

      I think this article is just a pat on the back to the medical research community for how far we've come. Clearly, there is so much different now in terms of security, weaponry available, and etc, that you could never say that Lincoln would have survived now, or even that there would have been a serious attempt on his life. Hell, in Lincoln's day anyone could just walk right up to the White House, knock on the front door, and request an audience. These days, you can't even get close.

    3. Re:so, what this article is saying is... by sexyrexy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it was a far more civilized time in many respects. For example, I think it's a pretty recent development that a non-trivial bloc of the population would actually cheer for the assassination of President Bush. Now, regardless of whether we agree with his policies, I find that pretty disgusting. I think partisanship and common decency have plunged to new depths just as human rights overall and quality of life have risen to great heights.

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    4. Re:so, what this article is saying is... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Lincoln were President today, he'd be very unpopular with the Slashdot crowd. Slavery issues aside, he believed and acted in a manner that strengthened the federal government. He even ordered confedracy sympathizers in Maryland arrested prior to election day so that Maryland, the seat of power for the Federal government, wouldn't secede.

      In other words, he ran what might have been the most oppressive federal government since the Alien and Sedition acts of World War I, entirely contrary to the spirit of the American colonies' secession from the British Empire.

      You're saying nobody today would have made a serious attempt on his life?

  2. Ba-dum-bum by Bobb+Sledd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...Is that because you don't need a brain to be president?

    Of course... it could also be said that "modern security could have prevented the weapon being anywhere near the president in the first place."

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  3. Worthless. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And future medicine might have brought him back from the dead, able to play piano and fly! Or maybe not. No medicine might have saved George Washington, instead of the leeches.

    Such pointless speculation. Yes, obviously better medical care could have saved a lot of people. How about "Modern Medicine Could Have Prevented Black Plague!" Maybe, "85% of amputations during the civil war wouldn't have occurred with modern surgery!" Seriously, I can keep this up all day...

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    1. Re:Worthless. by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the point of the study wasn't that modern medicine could have saved him, it's how it could have. Anyone could come along and say, "oh yeah, modern medicine would have saved him." It takes someone with more experience than the peanut gallery here on Slashdot to explain how.

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  4. Stating the obvious by orclevegam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other news, a recent study shows that using modern materials as well as safety and engineering best practices might have prevented the Titanic disaster.

    Seriously, it's been said many times on here already, but, how is this news?

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  5. Compare apples with apples by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    An assassin today wouldn't use an outdated gun. He'd use an automatic, if available (Uzis come to mind) and spray his target. Or he would use a weapon with greater impact.

    Of course it's easy to say today all those people who were murdered could have been saved with modern medicine. I'm quite aware that assassins are aware of this and use methods that prove to be fatal compared to the potential of their adversaries, the medics trying to save the life of the target.

    Think of Caesar. Back then a stab anywhere in the abdomen was pretty much a surefire way to kill. Today you might have to hit your mark, and even then...

    Think of all those people who were poisoned. How many would go to a doc today and he'd find out immediately and before it's too late that they are poisoned and what the antidote would be? Would an assassin use the same poison? No, he'd pick a killing method that can't be countered. Just like they did back then.

    So, generally, I wouldn't read too much into this. Yes, they could have been saved by modern medicine if someone was stupid enough to try to kill them in an old fashion way.

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  6. Re:Life as we know it by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was really the Spanish-American war that brought the country back together--the South bitterly hated the North even after the war, especially when the North did "reconstruction", their failed military occupation of the South. It wasn't until a hundred years later that the South finally quit segregation and stopped lynching Negroes. Rebellious groups continued their activities for decades--haven't you heard of the Ku Klux Klan? Finally, Lincoln was "a visionary and a very ethical man" according to the history books, because the history books were written by the Union. In reality, I think most presidents, given the situation Lincoln was in, would have risen to the challenge, and many of them would have done so more ethically and with more vision.

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  7. Re:Life as we know it by CravenScion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're right. We wouldn't recognize the United States. But not for your reasons. Lincoln's plan was to return the Confederate States back into the Union as the prodigal sons. He had no intention of a crushing and punishing "Reconstruction." Without having to go through Reconstruction, the race issues of the South would have been solved a lot earlier and lot more amicable than they were. The only thing the South mourned with Lincoln's death was post facto when they realized who would succeed him. His death caused generations of embittered hatred between South and North. You need to crack open a history book or maybe just google the definition of scalawag and carpet bagger to understand why generations of Southerners looked to the North with a skeptical and embittered eye. Now for the humor. Although the screeching hag is technically from Illinois (a Union State), it is awesome to see carpet bagging inversed with the Junior Senator from New York. lol.