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Holocaust Dropped From Some UK Schools
dteichman2 writes "It appears that some UK schools are ignoring the Holocaust. A government-backed study, funded by the Department for Education and Skills, found that some teachers are reluctant to teach history lessons on the Holocaust for fear of offending Muslim students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. Additionally, similar problems are being encountered with lessons on the Crusades because these lessons contradict teachings from local mosques."
They should teach about the Holocaust and also about the denial; impart only information or content; Let the student decide what he wants to believe.
While it would be great if we could bitchslap collectively stupid things like this right out of people, it's their right to believe what they choose. However, it is absolutely stupid...no absolutely fucking stupid...no....absolutely mother fucking idiotic to the degree that those responsible should be executed for being a waste of air consumption stupid that this would be done to avoid offending poor widdle muslim holocaust deniers. Cry more you fucked up noobs.
Because when religion is allowed to overshadow history, inevitably religion is used to harm. Every single Luxembourg law was a propel edict. Every single thing that the Nazis did to Jews were decreed by a Pope as the appropriate thing to do. It was Christians who designed using a star and argued Jews should be tagged. It was Christians who said Jews should be eradicated. This is why Christians were so silent in the war: the Nazis were doing exactly what was said to be correct about the history of the Jews.
No, the right to believe what he or she wants to believe is anyone's choice. There is no right to cause others to accept ignorance just because it does not fit within your world view. In fact, history has shown that when history is ignored (ironic, isn't it?) that which is at first a denial is then used as a reason to subjugate.
Christianity has finally had to deal with this issue. That is why the Pope has been calling for the right anyone to trade faiths and not be punished. It is time militant members of Islam grow up.
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"However, somehow Muslims think that a person not being Muslim is an attack on Islam somehow"
Jews do this (always pushing that you must marry another Jew), Christians do this too with their constant missionary efforts to get everyone to think like them. I can understand *some* of their paranoia though, last time I checked there were no bases or armies from Islamic countries in Christian ones.
Eh - Lest we forget . . . what ?
which the deniers all claim to be a massive hoax perpetrated by the Jewish cabal behind the scenes pulling the strings of power...
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I thought Jews supported genital mutilation too. Now, its common in most Western countries. I know my son and I were both circumcised at birth.
That can all be faked. It wasn't in this case but it can be faked. I had an Uncle that served in WWII in Europe. He wasn't Jewish and helped liberate one of the camps so on top of all the proof we have in the public record I have a good bit more. He was a very good man BTW. Was reported KIA to his family twice. Had some terrible burns on his arms from when his tank got hit. In his later life he helped to raise money for our local hospital and worked at Cape Kennedy during the Apollo launches. He died of lung cancer in the early 80s. He never smoked a day in his live but they lined the US tanks with Asbestos and his got hit so I am betting that may have been the cause.
Yea it is off topic but it is good to remember sometimes.
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Gee, that was easy. Enough hits for you? Most of them refer to this event.
Now, my turn. On May 10th, Maha Katouni, a 30 year old woman, was in her 7th month of pregnancy. Rising in the middle of the night to confort her children as the IDF assaulted Nablus, she was shot in the abdomen by soldiers of the Nahal patrol battalion, stationed on the roofs of adjacent buildings. Her unborn son, who she planned to name Daoud (after an uncle who had been killed by the IDF), was killed as the bullet passed through her intestines, his brain, and exited out her back. After a 45 minute wait for the ambulance to be allowed permission to approach, she was rushed to the Rafidiya government hospital in Nablus -- a 168 bed hospital with 380 staff members, of which only about 20 beds are filled and a third of the staff present due to the checkpoints and economic boycotts. The ambulance was stopped by soldiers twice on the way back to the hospital. She barely survived.
How many articles do you find on her?
Oh, wait, let me guess. She was really a terrorist, and she was arming her fetus. No, wait, even better: despite the IDF controlling the rooftops around her, some secret terrorists groups snuck up behind them and shot past them to hit her, right? Or even better.... she shot *herself* to frame the IDF, right?
By the way -- I realize that *you* may not make such silly claims; however, I've heard even worse by people who ridiculously out of their way to defend the IDF against all responsibility.
GIVE US THE CUTTLEFISH!
It is simply not true that the Koran says anything of the sort. That verse you point to, 9, refers to defense. To summarize, that verse says "do not attack anyone who makes peace with you, as during times of treaty you are forbidden from war with them. But if they break the peace, the forbidden time is over and they are to be attacked.
Here's the full translation of that verse if you like. You'll find that Muslims are totally forbidden from attacking anyone with whom there is any form of treaty, peace agreement or mutual understanding. Only those who break these agreements and are hostile may be attacked out of self defense. In fact the very first line of that surah is "A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:".
Later it says: "(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous". In other words, we are commanded to be true to any arrangements, unless it is broken by the other side first.
Even in your quote it says that even after they have broken an agreement, if they later apologize, they are to be forgiven. Vengefulness and vindictive behavior are forbidden.
Taking a single line out of context is a a good way to demonstrate one's ignorance of the truth. It is often done, though, by people determined to spread FUD.
This is such a dramatic misunderstanding of my point that I'm going to assume it is deliberate and ignore it.
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