Creationism Museum Opening in Kentucky
Noel Linback writes "A new creationism-espousing museum is opening in the state of Kentucky. According to a New York Times article the museum depicts humans and dinosaurs living together in traditional 'diorama' style exhibit. 'Whether you are willing to grant the premises of this museum almost becomes irrelevant as you are drawn into its mixture of spectacle and narrative. Its 60,000 square feet of exhibits are often stunningly designed by Patrick Marsh, who, like the entire museum staff, declares adherence to the ministry's views; he evidently also knows the lure of secular sensations, since he designed the Jaws and King Kong attractions at Universal Studios in Florida. For the skeptic the wonder is at a strange universe shaped by elaborate arguments, strong convictions and intermittent invocations of scientific principle. For the believer, it seems, this museum provides a kind of relief: Finally the world is being shown as it really is, without the distortions of secularism and natural selection. '"
Here's a challenge then. Refute one of Dr. Hovind's claims with actual scientific proof. Or you might want to watch his debates where he takes on your evolutionist leaders (the ones who get paid to spread this bull). I guess though that it is easier for you to just take cheap shots at the man rather than actually try to do some research and prove that something he said is untrue.
I have a question. You always call Christians close minded, narrow, bigots, scientifically stupid and the such, but that does not include all of us. I am a college educated man who has spent years studying science at a major secular university. I do believe in "creationism" and amazingly a lot of it has some of the changes and such that are found in "evolution." The only problem being that most of you will not study both sides, you see the fact that an idea is Christian, or has some basis and automatically you become close minded, narrow, bigots. Not everyone believes your science as your "scientists" often are found to be liars as well. Piltdown man, The amazing Tasaday tribe, A National Geographic (NG) article 'Feathers for T. Rex?' by the Senior Assistant Editor, Christopher Sloan and many others. Sometime evolutionists force things to make them seem real and then it quietly goes away. So blinded by your "faith" that you cannot see the truth. So please, before your next discussion ( actually your bashing of everything that you have never researched) please research it all, not just some Christians that are ignorant. Speak to the educated, and someone who has done research. I would not ask a kindergarten teacher to explain the Pyrrhonian regress.
Indeed, Hitler was Catholic and supported and aided by the Pope at the time and the Catholic Church. Why do you think he killed Jewish people? Catholic doctrine was that the whole of the Jewish people were guilty of killing their god, Jesus!
Catholic priest bugger little boys, and the Catholic church covers this up, moving on the priests to new locations with new young boys to bugger.
The Catholic church is guilty of these and many more crimes against humanity.
If you're a Catholic and feel that Nazism, killing Jews and buggering young boys is wrong you owe it upon yourself to leave and denounce the Catholic church. Nothing less is moral for you to do.
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They should call it "The Hillbilly Museum of Creationism"
Simply makes no sense, there is an obvious, perpetual,and profound flaw in the craziness that is Christianity and Judaism (other religions as well, some for the same some for different reasons): their "God" simply cannot exist, certainly not as described. The general belief in the "Almighty" ascribes "all knowing" (omniscience) and "all powerful" (omnipotence) properties to this "God" thing. At the same time this "God" thing "created" us with "free will" (whatever that is, a definition is not necessary, but suffice to say that "free will" implies an inability to make precise predictions about the behavior and actions of creatures endowed with such a property), but...
Omniscience excludes "free will" as your "fate" (heaven/hell) has been known from the beginning of time, you never had a chance otherwise. If this is NOT the case then the "God" thing is not omniscient, inconsistent with the "all knowing" claim (more on this later). Also, one could argue that a "God" thing could choose to NOT exercise it's omniscient abilities, however:
a) This does not change the issue of fate since all fates COULD be know, should the "God" thing choose to know it.
b) Being omniscient this "God" thing would already know that it would or would not change "its mind" at some point, so if the decision to "remain in the dark" was made then it would be "forever".
c) Choosing to "remain in the dark" by this "God" thing has profound implications (more in a bit)
Omnipotence also excludes "free will" as any omnipotent being would be able to grant itself omniscience, see omniscience argument above. If this "God" thing cannot grant itself "omniscience", then it is not omnipotent.
So either we have "free will" and this "God thing" is neither omnipotent nor omniscient, therefore not "almighty", or we do not have "free will" and choice is irrelevant, you are going to heaven or hell since the beginning of time.
So, you can keep your "God" thing and nothing you do has any affect on your choices in the "afterlife" or your claims about this "God" thing are profoundly false.
Implications for the non-omniscient "God" thing: if this "God" thing cannot "know" complete "rightness" or "wrongness" (I will not define these words, in this context I would venture to say that no meaningful definitions can be given), it can make mistakes, therefore is not "perfect". So, it is therefore possible that the "God" thing's judgement can be in error. So an eternity in "heaven" or "hell" can be granted in "error".
Bottom line: it's all a bunch of nonsense, you might as well believe in leprechauns. And the practice and spread of this kind of thinking is harmful as it asks people to voluntarily give up rational thought. As it relates to this post about a "Creationism Museum", this is just yet another sad waste of human potential, and useless disinformation to be sending out to people.
Teaching evolution and natural selection is as "preaching" as teaching that Pi is irrational.
"Don't listen to the fancy college heathens! Pi is equal to THREE! it's in the Bible!" (It is.)
I'm becoming increasingly persuaded that not everyone can know God. Apparently, God has chosen certain people - "the elect" - to become Christians, and the rest of you are pretty much screwed. So, trying to force our beliefs on you isn't going to accomplish anything. We still need to share the Gospel, because doing so glorifies God (and because we have no way of knowing whether you're a member of the elect or not, and of course because God has commanded us to do it), but it has to stop there.
See John 6:44 and 6:65, for starters.
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This museum represents a direct attack on science.
Disney has several theme parks around the world that feature furries and princesses. Do you feel that those threaten science as well?
Don't take this the wrong way - I completely agree with you. But don't take the cause as the effect. The real threat here involves the idiots poisoning their children with this particular set of ignorant and dangerous misinformation, not the means by which they do it.
A theme park, IMO, at least puts this set of beliefs into a suitable context - One of fantasy and humor... "Pikachu, watch out! Jehova has immunity to lightning! Wait until he morphs into Jesus-form and then target his metal hand-spikes!".
Evolutionists wants to prove origin of the life? Great, but they should first prove how stuff appeared before The Great Explosion. Oh wait, they say for Universe has its age... So what was before?..
If we can only "speculate" on the origin of life, why do so many people state that evolution is a "fact"? Repeat a rumour often enough and people will swallow it.