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It's Not News, It's Fark

"In It's Not News, It's Fark, Drew Curtis takes a critical look at the mass media. He promises to examine why the news is often not news at all, to look at the fear mongering, the cyclical nature of the news and the fluff that is passed off as important. Drew breaks down these not-news stories into 8 separate categories and gives examples, along with user comments from Fark. Unfortunately, 230 of the books 278 pages (including the index) are used for these examples. What time is spent talking about the media and the advertisement model it is built on, is insightful a bit cynical and very brief." Read below for the rest of the review. It's Not News, It's Fark How Mass Media Tries to Pass Off Crap as News author Drew Curtis pages 278 publisher Gotham Books rating 6 reviewer Robert Rozeboom ISBN 978-1-592-40291-5 summary A look at why the mass media puts out so many stories that aren't really news. The book starts off with a brief Fark history lesson. What Drew did before Fark. Its first incarnation and how it got to be what it is today. The author then gives us an outline of the different types of news stories that he considers not newsworthy. Drew points out that since most news is brought to you by an entity that makes its money selling ads, the more eyes watching those ads the better. History has shown that nothing attracts eyes like fluff, fear and stretching the truth. There is a reason why there are so many tabloids in the checkout lane.

The first type of news story Drew covers is what he calls, 'Media Fearmongering'. Everything from finding bacteria on your keyboard, terrorists in your home town to animal attacks. This is the most easily recognized type of non-story.

We then move on to, 'Unpaid Placement Masquerading as Actual Article'. This includes most surveys, new words in the dictionary and all things publicity stunt related. Everything you'd read in the 'Lifestyles' section of the newspaper.

Next is, 'Headline Contradicted by Actual Article'. Misleading headlines to outright lies are addressed. Drew makes the point here that the people who run these stories often realize that they are misleading at best but know that they will generate traffic.

'Equal Time for Nutjobs' covers Noah's ark being discovered, conspiracy theories and a guy who thinks the garden of Eden and Atlantis are in Florida. The crazier the claim the better.

Then we have 'The Out-of-context Celebrity Comment'. Why do we care what someone who pretends to be someone else for a living, has to say about Nuclear proliferation? Who knows but we sure do.

Drew next looks at 'Seasonal Articles' . The amount of money lost due to a fall in productivity because of the Super Bowl, inspecting your Halloween candy, and traffic spikes during holiday weekends. All of these stories should look familiar.

The next chapter is, 'Media Fatigue'. How do you know when a big story has just about run its course? Wait for the stories about whether or not the media has given it enough attention or if they've gone too far.

'Lesser Media Space Fillers' covers everything that couldn't fit into one of the other categories as well as some of Drew's personal observations of what type of stories tend to get the most coverage.

Each one of the chapters has a collection of Fark comments after every example story. The comments seem to be chosen at random and are frankly extraneous. The only reason I can think of to include them is that someone in marketing wanted to tie the book more closely to Fark.

The final chapter of the book is by far the most interesting to read and only 14 pages long. This is the wrap up of the problem as Drew sees it and what he thinks the mass media should be doing instead. His ideas are well reasoned and in my opinion spot on. As long as the media is driven by advertising they will walk the line of responsible, informative journalism and outrageousness as close to outrageousness as they can and still be taken seriously by a majority of consumers.

My criticism of this book is that almost the whole thing is just a list of Fark stories. If you've read Fark you've read 90% of this book. It would have been more interesting if the book was an actual discussion of the shortcomings of the mass media, why it is in the place it's in and what could be done to change it. Those topics are covered but in such a brief way that they almost seem like an afterthought.

If you like reading Fark and for some reason you want to read a collection of Fark stories and a few comments in a non-computer screen format you will love this book. If you want to read about how the mass media works and some thoughts on how it could be better you'll love 50 pages of this book.

You can purchase It's Not News, It's Fark: How Mass Media Tries to Pass Off Crap as News from amazon.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.

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  1. Don't buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a trap!

    1. Re:Don't buy it by wampus · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would have to agree.

    2. Re:Don't buy it by core+plexus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh oh, the cat's out the bag. Fark used to be a fun diversion, then they went for the buck. DIAF.

  2. It's not news... by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...it's a revenue stream.

    I like Fark and all, but it's getting a little ridiculous lately, especially with the changing away from the old days of naughtiness that alas, are gone...

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    1. Re:It's not news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Very true. After the site changes Fark stinks like rotten dog breath.

      The redesign is ugly. Load times are (still) twice as long as before the site change (back-end fixes my rear end!). Fark isn't what it was 1 year ago, and that's a bad thing.

    2. Re:It's not news... by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      On Soviet Slashdot, cliched in-jokes post and re-post YOU.

    3. Re:It's not news... by Fallingcow · · Score: 2, Informative

      My first thought when I saw the redesign was that they were trying to look like Digg.

      My main reason for not reading Digg is that it is goddamn ugly.

      Good job there, Fark.

      Every single change that they've made in the past 1.5-2 years has been for the worse.

      / Has not gotten over it.
      // Can I use Slashies on /.?

    4. Re:It's not news... by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The old days of naughtiness?

      You forget then, about the days pre-naughtiness.

      I haven't seen the book, so I don't know what history is presented in it, but the increased levels of naughtiness didn't start 'til mid/late 2000, when Fark got mentioned in Playboy.

      Disclaimer : I used to be an admin (Joe) on Fark from 1999 'till about May 2000.

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    5. Re:It's not news... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll get over it.

      [insert a cleverly-captioned cat picture here]

    6. Re:It's not news... by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

      I couldn't guess why you say it's any less (or more) naughty than it ever was.

      Seen a Boobies link lately? Not on the main page you haven't.

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    7. Re:It's not news... by blincoln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, it is pretty insulting. Fark's owner publishes a book that essentially criticizes the mass media for watering down their content in order to make the most money, then almost immediately afterwards changes the rules of his site to get rid of user-posted content that isn't advertiser-friendly.

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    8. Re:It's not news... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I like Fark and all, but it's getting a little ridiculous lately

      That's OK, people are allowed to grow and change.

      And from what I can tell, it's a dead-on take on the mass media.

      If we can finally break some of the spell that the media has on nearly everyone in this country, we might be able to actually make some changes and avoid the disaster that's surely ahead for us the way we're going. We might even be able to demonstrate why the whole "Liberal Media" meme is pure bullshit.

      If you look at the last 5 years, and investigate the way this fucked-up administration has used the media to advance the worst possible agenda for this country, it makes your hair stand on end. All the times, for example, that the administration would leak a bogus story, which the media would run, then Dick Cheney would go on TV and say "see, the media agrees with us" because they ran the bogus story that Cheney himself leaked in the first place, and the way they've "played the refs" by convincing everyone that the entire media is part of a vast liberal conspiracy in order to get people to stop believing in facts.

      "A War on Truth" is the best way I've seen it put.

      The people behind Fark are more insightful than most, so they stand a good chance of being part of the solution by exposing what's going on. So the jokes aren't quite as dirty any more... Oh well.
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    9. Re:It's not news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fark Boobies links went to Foobies.com, in contrast to this, the SBB Girls ads they put on the standard (i.e. non-Total Fark) mainpage became bigger and closer to being work-inappropriate content. Don't know if this is still the case. I haven't checked Fark since the awful redesign.

    10. Re:It's not news... by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh shit, does Jeff see me here too?

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    11. Re:It's not news... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >The people behind Fark are more insightful than most

      Obviously, you've never read the fark forums.

      I dont see how fark suddenly has this reputation for being media savvy. They were the biggest supporters of the Iraq war, linking to all these right wing op-ed pieces supporting and casting a blind eye to any naysayers (if not outright calling them cowards). While the rest of us were hearing the dissent and how painfully obvious there werent going to be any WMs foundD in Iraq from NPR, the farkers were going crazy over MSNBC and Foxnews and LGF and Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, when i think of media-savvy, I dont think fark.

    12. Re:It's not news... by Threni · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Amature

      Is that a clumsily spelled variant of Amateur, or a clumsily spelled variant of Immature?

      Slightly more seriously, at least some of the posters at Slashdot know what they're talking about - I've learnt stuff about science/programming here, mainly due to links being posted in comments. I've learnt absolutely nothing from anything posted in any Fark comments. (I used to read Kuro5hin, but it turned out that there both the comments and the articles themselves were no better than you'd see on any blog site. "Why tidying my room sucks" and stuff like that. At least Fark contains genuinely amusing stories from Cowpoke, Ohio that I'd never otherwise see, even if the comments about it will inevitably contain comments about how Muslims hate freedom or whatever).

    13. Re:It's not news... by metamatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I dont see how fark suddenly has this reputation for being media savvy. They were the biggest supporters of the Iraq war, linking to all these right wing op-ed pieces supporting and casting a blind eye to any naysayers (if not outright calling them cowards).

      Damn, where are my mod points?

      The endless pro-war crap was sickening. Then there was a thread of jokes about killing Iraqis. I posted a photo that had been on the front page of the newspapers (even in the US), showing an injured Iraqi child, to try and point out the reality they were joking about. Result: I got banned.

      Fark is not insightful. Fark is not a free speech zone; it's heavily censored by anonymous moderators with no accountability, which is always a recipe for abuse. No, Fark is simply a way for Drew to make money out of content supplied by other people, and it sounds as though this book is exactly the same.

      (I still read it for the links, but via a scraper which turns it into headline plus link to story, bypassing the discussion threads and the rest of the site entirely.)

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    14. Re:It's not news... by Atario · · Score: 2, Funny

      "It's not selling out your readers when we do it."

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  3. Didn't you get what you paid for? by Lejade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >"it would have been more interesting if the book was an actual discussion of the shortcomings of the mass media, why it is in the place it's in and what could be done to change it. Those topics are covered but in such a brief way that they almost seem like an afterthought."

    Then again, if you were really looking for an insightful analysis of centralized media, maybe your time would have been better spent reading Marshall McLuhan or Noam Chomsky than Drew Curtis.

    Just a passing thought...

    1. Re:Didn't you get what you paid for? by spun · · Score: 2, Informative

      The man is brilliant, and what he has to say is completely relevant. He has one of the most insightful analysis of modern society I've ever read. I challenge you to come up with an example of him being a nutjob. In fact, I think that you know he isn't a nutjob. I think that what he's saying challenges your beliefs, and you don't want anyone being swayed by what he has to say. If he were a nutjob, that fact would be obvious to everyone, and you wouldn't need to mention it. I mean, who bothers to mention that the Timecube guy is a nutjob? We all know it from one look at what he has to say. Not so with Chomskey, which is why small minded defenders of the status quo always feel the need to attack him.

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  4. "My criticism of this book ... by Megaweapon · · Score: 4, Funny

    is that almost the whole thing is just a list of Fark stories. "

    You'll get over it.

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  5. It's not a book review, it's Slashdot. by CanSpice · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anybody actually edit or proof these book "reviews", or do the "editors" just copy and paste it from their inbox? Seriously, the opening three lines are so stilted and crap that no proper editor would accept this review. Couple that with the traditional "it's" screwup and I didn't want to read any further.

    But I did. And lo and behold it's a typical Slashdot "review", consisting of ten paragraphs summarizing each chapter individually followed with "I thought this book sucked/ruled because...". My criticism of this "review" is that almost the whole thing is just a list of the chapters.

    If this was a book review for an elementary class you might slide by with a B, but otherwise you get a D.

  6. Complete the cycle!!! by darkrowan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Quick! We must continue the cycle. Someone Digg this article, then get that as a link on the main page of Fark. Or add reddit into the mix as well.

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  7. Necessary Illusions by subl33t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Noam Chomsky's "Necessary Illusions" has a very good look at why US news media is practically useless.

    Short version: the media companies have trained themselves to avoid conflict with the powers that be. The powers that be hardly need to come down on media anymore. These days if you see a news story regarding the powers that be coming down on the media - it's fluff.

    Long version: it's Chomsky - you'll have to read it for yourself. Unless anyone else wants to elaborate...

    1. Re:Necessary Illusions by subl33t · · Score: 2, Informative

      "wants the government to regulate free speech and the media"

      ??

      You obviously are thinking of another Noam Chomsky - or you're off your meds. You have also obviously not read the book. Chomsky has no love for the US Gov and is against more gov regulation.

      At least try and do some Googling before you post.

    2. Re:Necessary Illusions by subl33t · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh Yeah?

      Well you're a big poopy-head!

      There, I said the same thing you did without a run-on sentence.

    3. Re:Necessary Illusions by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chomsky describes himself as a "a libertarian socialist", whatever that means.

      He's one of those guys that heavily criticizes the USA, but still seems to admire it. Constructive criticism as opposed to the destructive type we usually get in the media.

      As for free speech, he refuses to even take legal action when someone libels him, so I'd say he favors free speech. :)

      I dunno. Even after being aware of him since my teens, sometimes I'm still not sure what to make of the guy.

    4. Re:Necessary Illusions by notque · · Score: 2, Informative

      What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream

      From a talk at Z Media Institute June 1997

      By Noam Chomsky

      Part of the reason why I write about the media is because I am interested in the whole intellectual culture, and the part of it that is easiest to study is the media. It comes out every day. You can do a systematic investigation. You can compare yesterday's version to today's version. There is a lot of evidence about what's played up and what isn't and the way things are structured.

      My impression is the media aren't very different from scholarship or from, say, journals of intellectual opinion--there are some extra constraints--but it's not radically different. They interact, which is why people go up and back quite easily among them.

      You look at the media, or at any institution you want to understand. You ask questions about its internal institutional structure. You want to know something about their setting in the broader society. How do they relate to other systems of power and authority? If you're lucky, there is an internal record from leading people in the information system which tells you what they are up to (it is sort of a doctrinal system). That doesn't mean the public relations handouts but what they say to each other about what they are up to. There is quite a lot of interesting documentation.

      Those are three major sources of information about the nature of the media. You want to study them the way, say, a scientist would study some complex molecule or something. You take a look at the structure and then make some hypothesis based on the structure as to what the media product is likely to look like. Then you investigate the media product and see how well it conforms to the hypotheses. Virtually all work in media analysis is this last part--trying to study carefully just what the media product is and whether it conforms to obvious assumptions about the nature and structure of the media.

      Well, what do you find? First of all, you find that there are different media which do different things, like the entertainment/Hollywood, soap operas, and so on, or even most of the newspapers in the country (the overwhelming majority of them). They are directing the mass audience.

      There is another sector of the media, the elite media, sometimes called the agenda-setting media because they are the ones with the big resources, they set the framework in which everyone else operates. The New York Times and CBS, that kind of thing. Their audience is mostly privileged people. The people who read the New York Times--people who are wealthy or part of what is sometimes called the political class--they are actually involved in the political system in an ongoing fashion. They are basically managers of one sort or another. They can be political managers, business managers (like corporate executives or that sort of thing), doctoral managers (like university professors), or other journalists who are involved in organizing the way people think and look at things.

      The elite media set a framework within which others operate. If you are watching the Associated Press, who grind out a constant flow of news, in the mid-afternoon it breaks and there is something that comes along every day that says "Notice to Editors: Tomorrow's New York Times is going to have the following stories on the front page." The point of that is, if you're an editor of a newspaper in Dayton, Ohio and you don't have the resources to figure out what the news is, or you don't want to think about it anyway, this tells you what the news is. These are the stories for the quarter page that you are going to devote to something other than local affairs or diverting your audience. These are the stories that you put there because that's what the New York Times tells us is what you're supposed to care about tomorrow. If you

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  8. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks for explaining that. I'm sure no one understood.

  9. News is what someone doesn't want published by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All else is publicity.

    It's a big issue, ignoring this commercial for "Fark" (which I hadn't heard mentioned in years). There are very few US newspapers left with much news. The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal are about it.

    The San Jose Mercury News used to be one of the last remaining local papers with real reporting, but since Knight-Ridder sold it to some suburban throwaway publisher, it's had very little real content. Most of the reporters are gone.

    The real test is this: did the story originate with a press release or a press conference? If it did, it's publicity. Take a printed newspaper and mark the non-wire-service ads for which this is not the case. There won't be many such stories. In some papers, there won't be any.

  10. slashdot farked black hole of unintentional DDoS by anthonyclark · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I stopped reading Fark after they started censoring *that* special number. Plus they took away boobies links and seemed to start removing any image that showed more than an inch of female cleavage.

    It used to be a fun low IQ flamewar filled insight into the minds of folks who would argue the relative hotness and sharp-kneed attributes of any female media celebrity. Some of the threads were freaking hilarious and definitely made my difficult work days a little easier.

    In my opinion Fark has made some terrible decisions lately: Fark "TV", terrible redesign without any user feedback, increasing censorship and more paid links. I hated the decision, but it's gone from my bookmarks.

    Makes me remember my love for /.

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  11. Fark: cancerous meme source of the net by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Funny

    I work for Drew Curtis Presents Fark.com, so I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
    Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you don't know about the topic....Don't make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some slashdotters believe anything they hear.

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  12. It's not Fark by selfabuse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's BanniNation Formed by a number of posters from fark who had finally had it with the way Drew runs Fark. It's a user-moderated fark-ish site, and IMO, has a much better community feel than fark does. It's nice being able to discuss a topic without worrying about the banstick coming down on your head.

  13. Drew Curtis' shark jumping dot com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was an avid Fark user since 2001. I will no longer even hit the front page, as they have neutered Fark and alienated many of their loyal readers by instituting a new ban system without informing people what it was. Pictures that were *always* considered "safe for work" (such as the attention whore girl, are now deemed NSFW, and posters are banned without explanation. As one poster here has already mentioned the whole "you'll get over it" redesign was a bit of an odd approach, but I could live with that, what I cannot live with is the extra crappy censorship they have rolled out. I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt, as I loved visiting the site because it was a small bastion of free speech. Now they have chosen to eliminate that, fuck 'em.......

  14. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank you, Ric Romero.

  15. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by glwtta · · Score: 2

    You are one of those people who clog Wikipedia with painfully irrelevant "Internet zeitgeist" crap, aren't you?

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  16. Good subject by Chaymus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like the topic, too bad the book doesn't seem worth anything. I started out as a Journalism major and after 2 years of that I realized how I was rewarded (straight A's) for writing BS papers 30 minutes before class that I knew were completely wrong and morally disagreeable. (I switched to CS after I realized what a joke the journalism field was.) As long as you are citing someone else for reference you can selectively choose anything to make such a bias "news" piece that it will be publically acceptable. General media isn't geared to inform objectively anymore. Capping newspapers to 8th grade reading level, selectively chosing sources, and lazy investigations about one side of the story because it's more accessible is a serious downfall. Don't even get me started on television news, somehow 30 minutes of random sound clips and bad b-roll keeps me informed? I don't think so.
    The problem that I see in the media, that hits home to most /.ers, is a combination of zero accountability (mods), and crappy moderators when they are in place. I have a choice in which bias opinion I watch, I don't have a location to form my own opinion without a lot more work. Add to that the network ratings are counted in thousands and a single letter coming in to the news station from a field expert telling them they don't know jack... there doesn't seem to be any insentive to even make a correction these days. Does anyone know of accountability actions for bad/misinformed/misleading journalism?

  17. You can't even troll properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Chomsky isn't a communist, he's an anarchist, as he's said numerous times.

    And he's still smarter and better informed than any right winger.

  18. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by rob1980 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "It's a trap!" refers to the statement made by Admiral Akbar in Star Wars and is a catchphrase often employed on Fark.

    ... and everywhere else on the internet, too.

  19. Re:and someone would spend good money on this? by russotto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the Slashdot reviews are convincing you NOT to buy the crappy, non-searchable dead-tree products featured, they're valuable as well.

    It sounds like this book could be included within its own subject matter.

  20. Re:slashdot farked black hole of unintentional DDo by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Boobies links were often the best threads. Now only TFers can comment on the threads. Once a day there would be a good thread "She's too fat" "She needs a sammich" going back and forth with everyone posting photos (or links to photos) of someone who they thought was hotter.

    I still read fark daily for news, but lately it has felt completely sold out.
    1) Censoring of a NUMBER. I even posted a huge base-10 number created by me pounding the keypad... it was deleted.
    2) Censoring of boobies in threads. There was a recent article ABOUT cleavage and some mod went all "OMG NO BOOBS IN THREADS" on the thread. If you're browsing Fark at work then you should know a thread about breasts is going to have pictures of breasts. I have "Images like Opera" installed and have it not display any images on sites originating at forums.fark.com.
    3) The new layout SUCKS. Slashdot, when they went CSS, did it tactfully, I'll notice more features and slicker integration as time goes on. Fark threw all UI logic out the window. Thankfully there is greasemonkey.

  21. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Although it's rare for a first post to be on topic, this one is. "It's a trap!" refers to the statement made by Admiral Akbar in Star Wars and is a catchphrase often employed on Fark.

    I see your "Get moderators attention to fix egregious moderation" and raise you one pedantry: they call it a cliche on Fark

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  22. FSOW by Johnny5000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Chomsky describes himself as a "a libertarian socialist", whatever that means."

    Libertarian Socialist

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  23. A few of us have upped and left by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Informative

    We formed bannination.com where we can have lots of naughtiness and moderate ourselves instead of having someone making all the calls.

  24. Re:BBC = advertisement free by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The BBC are definitely on the better end of journalism, that being both reason for and symptom of its betterness. The fact that every single Prime Minister of England hated the BBC is another piece of evidence that it's pretty awesome.

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  25. To be even more fair ... by Bearpaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But Al Gore's "Assault On Reason" explores this in the first chapter. The rest of his book is, of course, a political piece on the Bush administration. But, to be fair, he doesn't give them any criticism they don't deserve.
    To be even more fair, it'd be tough these days to write a book called "The Assault on Reason" without writing a lot about the Bush Administration. It'd be sort of like writing about elephants without mentioning the one in everyone's living room.
  26. Re:Modded by someone who doesn't know Fark by toleraen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Old and busted: Modding someone informative for providing good information.
    New hotness: Modding someone informative for providing redundant information!

  27. Ugh, Slashdot book review comments by Dirtside · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does anyone ever actually read these "book review" "comments", or just copy and paste it from the last book review article? Seriously, the whole comment is so unoriginal that no proper moderator would give it +1 insightful. Couple that with the traditional sarcasm and I didn't want to read any further.

    But I did. And lo and behold it's a typical "Slashdot 'review'" "comment", consisting of three paragraphs (if you can call them that!) criticizing the article generally, then specifically criticizing it, then summarizing with a snarky grade-school analogy.

    If this was a comment on Fark, you might slide by with a "You suck," but otherwise you get a "goatse.cx link".

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  28. Brittany's Hair and Other Fluff by queenb**ch · · Score: 3, Funny

    In an age where Brittany Spear's hair (regardless of which end of her it is or isn't on) is considered to be "newsworthy", we are all dooomed!

    2 cents

    QueenB.

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    1. Re:Brittany's Hair and Other Fluff by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People have always loved gossip. It's just easier to get and much more plentiful now.

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      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
  29. they still have human interests stories by vinn01 · · Score: 2, Interesting


    You're forgetting about all the "human interest" stories that they churn out to help sell newspapers and airtime.

    Those are stories without a press release or a press conference. They mostly originate from police reports. Every local paper has a crew ("reporters" is too complimentary) whose job it is to fashion police reports into stories (if it bleeds, it leads).

    The other source that I'm seen is stories that get picked up by to local newspapers that first appeared in school newspapers or club newsletters. That's where all the "nice kids", "cute pet", "interesting hobby", etc. stories come from.

  30. Yup. by Weaselmancer · · Score: 3, Informative

    You've fallen victim to an inside joke. See here. Scroll down to "I work for."

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    Weaselmancer
    rediculous.
  31. fark's programmers can't by oni · · Score: 2, Informative

    my first thought when I saw the redesign was that the programmers there don't really grok XHTML. They totally went about it the wrong way. You are supposed to think about data streams and then later use css to style it. But Fark's programmers clearly thought about presentaion only, and tried to make the data stream fit the layout they wanted. Along the way, they ended up with inline styles, extra useless divs, etc. The whole thing is just very awkward. They obviously aren't geeks.

    And no, that isn't meant to flame them. IT's just my humble opinion. That site is so big now that they should be able to do better. All drew had to do was to ask his millions of users to help out. Hell, even slashdot had a css contest.

  32. Re:Jumped the Shark by fontkick · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd been on Fark for a long time, and I think it jumped after the second election of Bush (around early 2005). Before that, comments were basically a bunch of people trying to say the funniest thing possible or derail the thread with an inappropriate pic. Boobies ruled (the NextDoorNikki thread was legendary). There was a balance of left wing and right wing views, and the flamewars were hate filled diatribes with no real point except to flame the previous poster or prove the existence of God, usually by the same person, which is pretty damn funny sometimes. By the second Bush term, 90% of the comments are from deadly serious (i.e. boring) left wing people trying to prove how much Bush sucks (not that we don't already know), the average thread isn't fun at all, moderation is nuts, and the main page has so many articles on it that it ended up looking like an early version of TotalFark. Plus, the ever important Boobies disappearing had a major impact on the fun factor. Just try having fun without Boobies.

  33. What is Fark? by jabberw0k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would have been useful for the reviewer to briefly outline what Fark is and what its context is. I have been net-enabled since 1994 and never heard of Fark, but in reading some of it briely, I did laugh a fair amount.

    Some background would have been helpful.