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Watching My Neighbors Watch On-Demand TV

Josh Levin, Slate Magazine writes "I have a magical box that allows me to watch other people watch TV — their movies, their sports, their cartoons, and their hour-long procedural dramas. And sometimes, usually around 11:30 on Friday nights, their soft-core pornography... I solved the mystery by consulting online message boards. At techie sites like AVS Forum, other voyeurs described their adventures in freeloading. I was intercepting video-on-demand channels through the power of my Samsung's QAM tuner."

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  1. He's not watching his neighbors watch TV... by reset_button · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...he's only watching what they're watching...

    1. Re:He's not watching his neighbors watch TV... by TobyRush · · Score: 5, Funny

      The article doesn't mention that he can watch anyone's TV except for this one TV he calls the "boogeyman." When he is watching that TV, it can watch him too.

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    2. Re:He's not watching his neighbors watch TV... by ubrgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well sure, but that's what my binoculars and rear window are for :)

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    3. Re:He's not watching his neighbors watch TV... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually the one Molly can't see she called "worse than the boogieman". The boogieman was Sylar, whom she could see, and in fact did

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  2. Bedtime is always softcore porn by raventh1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, between childrens tv shows and softcore porn there isn't much that interesting, except that when they watch the nudity scene in a movie and then replay it 5-8 times.

  3. It's relaxing when others channel surf for you... by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Watching what other people watch can be fun.

    I use stumble video and will often check out what my friends have watched recently, but the real interesting videos are to be found within the logs of random users.

    People find and like the strangest things.

  4. Article is dubious by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny
    Author says

    My girlfriend suggested that I try plugging in the Comcast cable line.
    Only an imaginary geek 'girlfriend' would suggest something like this.
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  5. I have the lesser model by ILuvRamen · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have the lesser model of that device called binoculars lol ;) but hey don't yell at me, my neighbors are WEIRD! I gotta keep an eye on them lol.

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  6. Same with me... by BMonger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have the same thing going on with my TV. At first you think, "Wow! Free VOD!" but then you realize you have no clue when a show starts, no way to unpause if the real viewer gets a phone call or goes to the bathroom, and well... it's pointless. You end up flipping through a good 50 channels for hours having literally no clue what shows are on and no clue if that person will finish them.

    It sounds neat but it's rather boring and partially stinks since you have to manually program those channels out. I mentioned this happening when the cable guy stopped buy and he seemed pretty "meh" about it.

  7. I read it for the articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Channels 97, 100, 115 seem to be the on-demand channels in my area.

    I was showing off the ability to intercept on-demand programming to some of my friends the other day and we happened to come across some of the softcore porn being fast forwarded through. Curious to see what they were fast forwarding to, we watched for a little bit... the person fast forwarded to a dialog interlude. Our curiosity piqued, we watched a little more and noticed that as soon as the actual intercourse portion of the movie started, they fast forwarded to the next scene that included dialog.

    Could we have found the only person in the world who reads playboy for the articles?

    1. Re:I read it for the articles? by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, the people who write articles for Playboy are serious, big-name writers. (Having "real" journalism, essays, and fiction takes the sting out of being a softcore porn mag.) Whereas the dialog in porn movies is always excruciatingly bad, and the plot — well, the truth is, I've never had the patience to find out if a porn film actually had one.

      I guess your neighbor gets off on bad dialog, or he's seriously disturbed. Or maybe he's scripting a porn movie himself and sees no problem in stealing the dialog from an existing porn movie, since nobody listens to it anyway!

    2. Re:I read it for the articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      well, the truth is, I've never had the patience to find out if a porn film actually had one.

      "Patience" may not be the word you're looking for

  8. Softcore porn.... by iknownuttin · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...and softcore porn there isn't much that interesting

    Ya know, Softcore is actually sexier, as in, more of a "turn on" than the hardcore stuff. The hardcore stuff comes across as more anatomical than anything - at least in my advancing age.

    I said "cums" ...huh, huh, huh....

    OK, I'm not too advanced in mental age because I still think of "Beavis and Butthead"...I said "Butt"...huh, huh, huh...heh.....heh...heh....

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    1. Re:Softcore porn.... by o2sd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I hear that women like softcore porn, I think, yeah, right, some guy pressures his overly compliant wife/girlfriend into watching porn with him, and she chooses softcore as a way of limiting the misery.

      Here's a clue. Walk into a bookshop one day and head to the 'romance' section. I know you've never been there before, but look for the women with guilty looks on their faces standing close to shelves reading small paperbacks with intense concentration. Pick up a few of those books and flick through the pages to find the juicy bits, and then come back here and tell me that women are not interested in soft-core porn.

      But there's no reason you have to put up with any vileness when you choose porn.

      You see, for women, sex is a package deal, and hard-core porn leaves out 90% of what needs to be in the package. Added to which hard-core porn is basically violence, not sex, and generally women aren't turned on by violence (although they do respond to aggression, which is different).

      If you add back in the rest of the ingredients that women need, and remove the violent aspect of most hard-core porn, then you have soft-core porn.

      What is 'Sex in the City' if it is not soft-core porn? And women watch that show voluntarily in their millions.

      Long and short, you would really benefit if you took some time to understand what women want.

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    2. Re:Softcore porn.... by try_anything · · Score: 4, Insightful
      My theory is that the cumshot is a perfect combination of the following factors:

      • The event is centered around the man's orgasm; the woman's role is to receive and appreciate. Considerations of her sexual functioning, which are highly anxiety-inducing, are completely absent.
      • The cumshot can express either of the primary male fantasies of simple sex: that the woman is extremely eager, or that she is extremely submissive and compliant. The event centers around the woman's face, so her eagerness or misery is especially evident.
      • Most women find it objectionable, which highlights the extraordinary sexual eagerness or submission a woman who receives it.
      • The forcefulness and volume of the ejaculation is an easy measure of the quality of the act. A simple, concrete understanding of masculinity puts a man's mind at ease; subtlety makes him anxious. There's nothing less subtle than splattering a chick's face with a massive load. A bit of acting on the woman's part confirms the understanding.


      Given all this, I understand why the cumshot is a staple device, rather than a fetish, but I am still surprised that there is no market for porn that is specifically guaranteed to be free of cumshots. I imagine it would be free of other things, too, but I'm not sure.

      Complicating this is the fact that many women who enjoy porn have adapted to the porn model of sex, which skews the market. Some chicks, especially ones who grew up in repressive environments, have a lot of affection for pornography and associate it with their sexual emancipation. They interpret any criticism of mainstream pornography as a step down a slippery slope that ends in repression of female sexuality. They try hard to like cumshots and feel bad about not being able to "take it like a pro" through the back door. (They're also paranoid about people looking down on their sexuality. The smallest suspicion of judgment turns them into neurotic, inhibited wrecks. So no, just because I know this stuff does not mean I'm not the luckiest guy in the world.)
  9. It's relaxing when others browser surf for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "People find and like the strangest things."

    Surfing Slashdot.

  10. The possibilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine sitting alone on a Friday night, no girlfriend in sight, flipping through the channels, running dead up against a soft-core channel, looking wildly left and right irrespective of loneliness, yanking at the wanker furiously hoping there is time, and then being beaten by the creep next door who started early and staring at Ma Bush staring back at you from CNN.

  11. Sounds like watching TV with my wife by xs650 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Having a program randomly fast forward and go back and repeat parts sounds like watching TV when my wife has the remote. Except for the porn part.

  12. Re:how bout a nice mug by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Funny

    No thanks, already got some.

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  13. You'll go to jail for that by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not exactly the same thing, but close enough. All it would take is a prick DA and an idiot judge. Neither are in short supply.

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  14. Rabbit Ears? by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wonder if the author realizes that all of the over the air HDTV stations are broadcast on UHF frequencies so you need only a standard UHF attenna. Those are the loop kind or occasionally they enclose the loop in a rectangular thing. You can fold the rabbit ears down because you don't need them at all.

    Still, this is interesting. I might think about running a cable feed to the tuner and see what happens. I went with OTA in the first place because the cable company wasn't carrying the local NBC and FOX stations in HD but now they are. Never even dreamed I'd get the occasional free VOD stuff.

  15. Did you people learn nothing from the internet? by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We you got something good, keep your yap shut.

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    1. Re:Did you people learn nothing from the internet? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

      TFA: The reason I can watch all that hot on-demand stuff is because Comcast doesn't encrypt it.

      That rattling/bleeping/crying sound you hear is every sysop at Comcast getting an email informing them they won't be going home as early as they thought tonight.

  16. Plyboy has great articles by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I learned how to make martinis, tie a bow-tie, and properly wear a suit.
    They have had some great interviews. I highly recommend PLayboys articles.

    I also look at the naked ladies.

    My wife even bought me a subscription. Which I let lapse when we had children.

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    1. Re:Plyboy has great articles by Tweekster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually playboy is great, if it werent for the naked pictures. If i want nudity i will get nudity, not airbrushed women that practically look like cartoons.

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  17. Re:DMCA wins again by geekoid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why does it need to be encrypted? he has no control over the show, the fast forwarding, the changing of channels. Pretty difficult way to watch TV.
    Plus it's not like you know WHO is watching it.

    Encrypting it costs them money, and doesn't give anybody any gain.

    He is not circumventing a protection, and I would be very interested to read the opinion of any lawyer who feels this is a violation of the DMCA.

    Yesh, there are a lot of stupid clients the tell their lawyers to send out notices, but they never seem to go anywhere.

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  18. Maybe he rode a unicorn to the magic well to post. by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    About as likely.

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  19. Re:Or a complete non-techie by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    HDHomeRun

    Nothing else really comes close. Yeah, you can get HD tuner cards for a little less money, but they're a pain in the ass to work with and generally are less functional. An HDHomeRun is not just a tuner (actually, it's two tuners), but it's networked, so you can do everything with it that you can with a PCI tuner, but you can do it from any computer in the house.

    It's a pretty brilliant little box.

    Oh, and it works well with Linux, MythTV in particular. Once you start using that, you'll never go back to watching realtime TV.

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  21. Now even less interesting! by mike_sucks · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who would have thought it was possible to invent something more boring than watching TV. Of course... watching people as they watch TV. Genius!

    I think I just felt the world get a little dummer. /Mike

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  22. Why not encrypt VOD? by mveloso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how the comcast spokesperson lies:

    Cable encryption is done per channel, not per title. The problem is that Comcast's infrastructure is built on SeaChange, which is running Windows NT 4 (if I remember correctly). They just can't handle the load.

    The other architectures (non-SeaChange) can handle encrypted VOD streams, but tend not to because the operator hasn't thought about it.

    And lastly, encryption of VOD content is done by fiat from corporate - that's how the cable industry works. And that's exactly the kind of thing that corporate is for - to set systemwide policies like that.

  23. Let's try this in geekier terms... by cyberwench · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about things like slash and yaoi, which have been getting increasingly popular for women. They range from soft- to hard-core, and while a lot of them go for the emotional side of sex and relationships, there's no shortage of just straight sex. Ok, so "straight" is probably the wrong word. Or 'Queer as Folk' - huge female audience, and that's not because they identify with the single pair of lesbians. It's not guys writing all that Sparrow/Norrington or Aragorn/Faramir fiction out there.

    Frankly, as a woman my issue with actual porn in general is the same issue I have with movies in general. They're poorly made, the good ones are few and far-between. And frankly, if you're talking about limiting the misery, hardcore films at least have sex to break up the bad acting/lighting/costuming/etc. I'd have to disagree that hardcore sex is inherently violent - it's simply graphic. Maybe you're watching the wrong ones? =) Try looking for hardcore that is marketed to women... it tends to be better, all around. Especially if what you're wanting is something your wife/girlfriend/fling will watch with you.

    I suppose the point I really want to make is that women are very much like men in that they're individuals. If you think you're going to "understand" women like they are some sort of weird single organism, it's just not going to happen. Interest yourself in the individual and you're more than half there.

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    1. Re:Let's try this in geekier terms... by Kokuyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Another evidence that it takes a woman posting on Slashdot to get an Insightful posting about women on Slashdot ;).