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Attorney Sues Website Over His Online Rating

An anonymous reader writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting that a local attorney is suing legal startup Avvo over a rating that was algorithmically assigned. The story covers the controversy of computers grading humans. 'Browne, who has participated in a number of high-profile cases in the state, including the defense of arsonist Martin Pang, said in an interview that Avvo is being irresponsible with the ratings and called them a fraud. And he questioned why Supreme Court justices and prominent lawyers score so low. Three other attorneys interviewed by the P-I also expressed doubts about the rating system, while News.com reported that the site "seemed to be riddled with bizarre errors."' Such practices are not new: the New York Times earlier this year reported on Google using algorithms to determine applicant suitability. But what happens when you don't like the result? Can a computer program be considered defamatory?"

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  1. reality has a well known slanderous bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's all "fuck you," "no, fuck you!" Marone.

  2. Ironically ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... if John Henry Browne does sue Avvo's computer ranking program it will make him a bad lawyer and thus the ranking will have been a self fulfilling prophecy.

    1. Re:Ironically ... by dwater · · Score: 2, Funny

      > ... if John Henry Browne does sue Avvo's computer ranking program it will make him a bad lawyer and thus the ranking will have been a self fulfilling prophecy.

      Unless he wins (this is in the US, right?), in which case they'll be obliged to increase his rating.

      "Think I'm a bad lawyer? I'll show you!"...."See, I told you I was a good lawyer."

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      Max.
  3. Nice sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Parent's Sig: When members of a profession start referring to non-members as 'laymen', it is time to start shooting them.

    Shooting whom? The members of the profession or the laymen? If you're going to call for someone's head, you should at least be a little more specific about whose head you want served to you on a silver platter.

    1. Re:Nice sig by mybadluck22 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We can solve this with a simple u-substitution.
      u = "start referring to nonmembers as 'laymen'"

      When members of a profession u, it is time to start shooting them.

      It becomes clear, now.

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      If I could rearrange the keyboard, I'd put U and I together.
  4. This should set a precedent by loudersoft · · Score: 2, Funny

    imagine what would happen to consumers who were negatively affected by soundscan's demonstration of the buying patterns of human beings and its effect on the decline of popular culture in music? we could recoup millions in damage to lost souls.

    1. Re:This should set a precedent by loudersoft · · Score: 2, Funny

      *damage: people who bought britney spears and avril lavigne records because they thought higher soundscan numbers meant "cooler" only to later discover that they had fallen victim to the fallacy of computer data

  5. Re:Just another tool. by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

    When members of a profession start referring to non-members as 'laymen', it is time to start shooting them.

          I think layman is a lot better than vulgar, don't you, you vulgar person?

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
  6. In a perfect world... by 313373_bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    1) Attorney sues website that assigned him a low rating.
    2) Attorney loses, and his rating goes even lower.
    3) ...
    4) Profit!

    Ok, 3 and 4 aren't really necessary.

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    ^[:q!
  7. Re:Just another tool. by buswolley · · Score: 4, Funny
    Programs can't be defamatory? Well their code can be?

    Have you read some of the comments people put in source code?

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    A Good Troll is better than a Bad Human.

  8. Food for thought, or thought for food? by camperslo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shooting whom? The members of the profession or the laymen? If you're going to call for someone's head, you should at least be a little more specific about whose head you want served to you on a silver platter.

    Those who call lawyers useless aren't being very open minded. Lawyers may be a melamine-free source of protein, but I think my cat would prefer something a bit less bony than the head.

    I wonder if the computer program has a way to rate them on flavor?

    1. Re:Food for thought, or thought for food? by flyingfsck · · Score: 2, Funny

      "a melamine-free source of protein" Slime has protein?

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      Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
    2. Re:Food for thought, or thought for food? by Tychon · · Score: 3, Funny

      I prefer pants to cover my ass, but if a lawyer does the job well enough for you and handles your paperwork, something I'll admit my pants have never done, then I may have to look into this.

    3. Re:Food for thought, or thought for food? by vertinox · · Score: 2, Funny

      And it's turned out to be some of the best money I've ever spent, because before I was spending loads of time doing all the paperwork and covering my own ass. Now the lawyer does it. And he's a nice guy, to boot. Shocking.

      Defense Lawyers = Good
      Other Person's Lawyer = Bad
      Prosecutor Lawyers = Really Bad
      Corporate Lawyers = Really Evil

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      "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
  9. Re:Just another tool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think you just uncovered the reason corporations don't dig open-source.

  10. Am I a Good Attorney...? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

    ....Computer says nooo .

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    May the Maths Be with you!
  11. Re:"Can a computer program be considered derogator by shawnap · · Score: 2, Funny

    Uh....

    switch (person.getSkinColor()) { ... } ?

    Fixed:

    try {
          switch (person.getSkinColor()) { ... }
    }
    catch( CaucasoidFeaturesException ) {
          switch (person.getReligion()) { ... }
          switch (person.getCountryOfOrigin()) { ... }
    }
    finally { person.warilyAccept() }
  12. I rate him a putz. by jcr · · Score: 1, Funny

    I hope the court slaps him good and hard. What a jackass.

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  13. Fundamentally flawed business plan. by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let me get this right -- these AVVO folks decided it would be a good idea to base their business model on saying things about attorneys that might not be complimentary?

    This is quite possibly the first time anyone thought they could make money by being sued constantly. Anyone who thought that the dot-com bubble used up all of the reservoirs of stupidity may now rest assured that fresh reserves have been discovered.

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    Proud member of the Weirdo-American community.
  14. Re:Just another tool. by Torvaun · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Programs can not be defamatory. Their output may be."

    Oh yeah?

    int main()
    {
       int x = 2; //Anonymous Coward is an incredible tool.
       return 0;  //The number of balls Anonymous Coward has.
    }

    --
    I see your informative link, and raise you a pithy comment.
  15. Re:Shocking by rcani · · Score: 2, Funny

    or politicians sucking


    It says something about American politics that the first thing that came to mind involved Bill Clinton and an intern.
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    In the begining there was nothing. And then God said, "Let there be light!" And there was still nothing, but at least yo
  16. Re:Just another tool. by inKubus · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've never been a developer have you? When I read this article, I immediately thought: "Great, something else they can blame IT for."

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    Cool! Amazing Toys.