Safari on Windows, Leopard Debut at WWDC

comm2k writes to mention that Apple has announced a Windows version of Safari along with Leopard, the new version of Mac OS X at this years World Wide Developers Conference in San Francisco. "He said Safari was 'the fastest browser on Windows', saying it was twice as fast as Internet Explorer. A test version of Safari for Windows XP and for Vista is available for download from the Apple website. Apple is hoping to replicate the success of iTunes, which has proved enormously popular on both Macs and Windows machines."

Comments

Re:Adblocking? Skinning

[Goaway]

I don't think it's nitpicking in this day and age to ask that a web-browser be skinnable as well.

No, in this day and age, why do we still have skinnable apps? They're the single biggest step back ever taken in interface design, and many an app has become an usuable mess due to skinning.

The sooner this cancer is wiped from the body of software development, the better.

Re:Open Letter

[ohzopants]

Dear Mac guys,
    You can keep your browser, I never asked for it. And if you're offering to no longer distribute itunes+quicktime (because, god forbid i should be able to get one without the other) for windows, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

PC user

Re:Open Letter

[catmistake]

which had the audacity to attach itself to every media file on the system

true... but when in Rome... Most PC apps I know are pretty damn annoying and do shit you never intended. Looks like Apple was just doing what every other Win developer is doing for Windows apps.

This "wonderful" piece of software runs several services in the background, some of which are normally not even needed/used, yet each sonsistantly sucks up several percent of a modern 2+Ghz CPU, and dozens of MB of memory

again... when in Rome. Are you using ANY windows apps at all???

Added to the lackluster performance in comparison to other music players, like Winamp, this is not a desireable app.

OMFG - Winamp is the scourge of the music players. I won't let my users near it. Its a diseased, ultra-insecure, time bomb. I wouldn't be surprised if Symantec just went and isolated it because it basically invites every little nasty out there to live right at home on your PC.

not provide us with software that slows down and gums up our Windows machines

What software on Windows doesn't "gum up" the machine? Windows is so helplessly, hopelessly messed up... dude... its not Apple... its your OS. It can't be fixed. But I'm right there along with you... I have no idea why Apple would even bother with an OS and users that become more irrelevant with each passing minute. Hate Apple if you wish. But if you have any clue, you'll at least drop Windows for Ubuntu or another Linux desktop. (Wow... talk about living in the dark.)

Sorry Apple people...

[M0b1u5]

Sorry Apple people... Safari is just not good enough. Here's why

1) It might seem acceptable on PlanetMac, but the real world requiores you can grab any corner or edge of an application and resize it. 100% lame.

2) Placing a 2-pixel wide strip to either side of the window is retarded. Just because MS are idiots does not mean you can take a pass on this! You MUST be able to slam the mouse to the top right corner of your screen - click, and close the app. (multi-monitor users notwithstanding) You also MUST be able to slam to the right side of the screen, click and drag to scroll. That's the most stupid lack of usability right there. 100% retarded.

3) Yeah - I've got a good idea: let's hide the Debug tool so no one can use those features! Let's then make users hack the preferences.plist file to reveal those tools - and then let's make sure that the single feature EVERYONE needs (to import bookmarks from Mozilla/Firefox) works but does not appear to. Yeah - great idea; bury all their personal bookmarks in some subfolder somewhere, but fill all the regular bookmark locations with Applespam! Great idea! 100% lazy.

4) Let them eat crap! Yeah - we have a web browser with Tabbed Browsing, but let's purposely cripple that behaviour and reveal no control at all about how they open, close, get shown or revealed, or how to control them in any way - except for 3 fucking useless radio buttons. 100% stupid.

Dunno what the Apple peeps are thinking, but when a piece of software gets to Version 3.0 (fuck the fact this is the first Windows release) we ALL expect the product to be slick as all hell, functioning perfectly, and logically, and not to be such a useless sack of crap.

Sorry Safari-for-Windows you blow goats.

Come back and see me when you decide to start making a browser with some proper usability features. For now, Firefox Owns Yuo!