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Texas Makes Green Computing Mandatory

athloi writes to mention that Texas legislators have passed a bill that would require computer companies to provide free recycling services to their customers for hardware purchased. "The bill (HB 2714) requires computer manufacturers to provide a "reasonably convenient" recycling plan that requires no additional payments from consumers. Dell and HP provided some model legislation that was used as the basis for the bill, which will only affect computers purchased for personal or home business use, but it could still encourage manufacturers to adopt efficient recycling programs that might then be applied to all machines sold."

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  1. No additional payments from consumers by biocute · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess that just means prices for new computers will go up $50 or so, and recycling services are, as promised, free.

    Companies might even see a better profit margin unless recycling is also forced upon consumers.

  2. What about other appliances? by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why single out computers?

    I mean, what about all the other appliances that tend to hit landfills, such as refridgerators, dishwashers, washers&dryers, televisions, radios, etc...?

    With the newer controls and electronics many of these contain, I would tend to argue that there aren't any materials found in computers that aren't in these.

    I think that Dell's got a cheap recycling program figured out(ship them to china?), and is trying to use this to muscle out the competition, which can't arrange disposal of old machines as easily.

    Then there's the whole issue of what happens if the retailer is out of business when the customer goes to recycle his or her computer...

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    1. Re:What about other appliances? by truckaxle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I mean, what about all the other appliances that tend to hit landfills, such as refridgerators, dishwashers, washers&dryers, televisions, radios, etc...?


      Right on.

      I always thought a good policy would be to have manufactures put a recycling fee into an escrow account (that earns a nominal interest for the manufacture) at the time of sale to large resource intensive consumer goods like computers, refrigerators, stoves, etc.

      The product would have a bar code and whenever the registered local landfill or recycling depot receives the disposed product they scan the bar code and are credited for the recycling fee from the escrow account.

      This has the following benefits....

      • Places the burden of disposal up front with the purchase of the product. This is fair economics as it places the burden on those who benefit from the product (both sale and use) .

      • Source of income (instead of burden) for local landfill/recycling depots and could favor recycling.

      • Encourage manufactures to build long lived products and to support products with *replacement parts* since the longer the product remains in service the more interest the manufactures earns. This is my favorite benefit, as I have thrown away Would generate real-world statistics on product longevity and reward manufactures for building quality. If a manufactures builds a lemon like a GE Refrigerator I had, this statistics would be public accessible knowledge and maybe even support class-action suits.


  3. Smaller System Builders? by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are smaller system builders considered "manufacturers"? That would explain why the bill got so much support from HP and Dell; it raises the cost of doing business.

  4. Corporations writing laws? by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dell and HP provided some model legislation that was used as the basis for the bill

    I'm not naive--I know it happens all the time, but I still get the shivers every time I read things like this. Am I the only one uncomfortable with the concept of corporations drafting laws?

    I wonder what our country's founding fathers would have thought of the newspapers of their time reporting "This bill, drafted by the Honourable East India Company, and passed by Congress..."

  5. Re:Texas?! Environmental responsibility? Holy crap by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey, we *need* those plants to provide surplus generation capacity for the next time there's money to be made taking a plant (or five) offline in California and then selling them our electricity at triple the market rate!

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  6. Re: Texas does something progressive by adrianmonk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not if you read the headline as: "Texas raises barrier to entry for competitors of Dell and HP."

    I hate to be cynical, but living in Texas, I know how things work here, and that is the most likely explanation. Texas government is about as business-friendly as it gets (that's regarded as a virtue around here by many people). Plus, you should ask yourself where Dell is headquartered, and the answer is Texas. Then you should also ask yourself where Compaq was headquartered before HP bought them, and the answer is also Texas. So, the world's two largest PC manufacturers have a big presence in Texas, and "coincidentally" those two companies just got the Texas legislature to pass a bill that makes life hard for their competitors.

    Coincidentally, AMD and Intel also have a huge presence here in Austin, the capital city of Texas, and I guess they could've/should've opposed this on the grounds that stifling competition is bad for the industry, but there is no chance they would've for two reasons: fear of pissing off Dell and HP, and fear of looking like they're anti-environment.

  7. Re:Texas?! Environmental responsibility? Holy crap by misanthrope101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From what I read, the California energy situation had more to do with Enron than with poor planning. When we've privatized something the public absolutely has to have and scarcity is profitable, scarcity is what you get. By design.

  8. Re:Texas?! Environmental responsibility? Holy crap by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Environmentalism and Economies HATE each other. I am so sick of this argument. It's the Republican party line and it is very shortsighted. Environmentalism only hates economics if:
    1) The environmentalism is environmental wacko ("Wind power? Those towers are ugly!")
    2) Your competitors invest in technology but you don't

    One of the problem the U.S. has is that we decided not to invest in battery/hybrid/flex fuel vehicles because it was considered too expensive. That would only have been a sound economic decision if everyone else made the same decision. But Japan did. So now, the only battery/hybrid/flex fuel vehicles are made outside the U.S. and U.S. auto-makers are scrambling to catch-up or they go out of business. This is a case where environmentalism and economies were 100% in line.

    Same goes with power plants. You can't regulate power prices and refuse to build new power plants. That has nothing to do with environmentalism, it's just a stupid economic decision. And now that oil prices are on the rise, we see that building other forms of power plants is not only environmentally friend, but it is also becoming economical.

    This isn't a case where California made the choice to be "green" -- it is a case where California, like much of the U.S. chose not to be green, and they are paying the price. But at least they don't have those ugly wind farms blocking the beautiful views.