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RIAA Uses Local Cops In Oregon Raid

newtley writes "Fake cops employed by the RIAA started acting like real police officers quite a while ago — one of the earliest examples unfolded in Los Angeles in 2004. From a distance, the bust, 'looked like classic LAPD, DEA or FBI work, right down to the black "raid" vests the unit members wore,' said the LA Weekly. That their yellow stenciled lettering read 'RIAA' instead of something from an official law-enforcement agency, 'was lost on 55-year-old parking-lot attendant Ceasar Borrayo.' But it's also SOP for the RIAA to wield genuine officers paid for entirely from citizen taxes as copyright cops. Police were used in an RIAA-inspired raid at two flea markets in Beaverton, Oregon. 'Sgt. Paul Wandell, Beaverton police spokesman, said officers seized more than 50,000 items worth about $758,000,' says The Oregonian. But this is merely the tiny tip of an iceberg of absolutely staggering dimensions, an example of the extent coming in a GrayZone report slugged RIAA Anti-Piracy Seizure Information."

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  1. Help us serve you better by froggero1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    full article without the annoying request for info popup thing:

    10 arrested in piracy raid at swap meets
    CDs and DVDs - Police seize more than 50,000 items worth about $758,000
    Sunday, June 10, 2007
    HOLLY DANKS
    The Oregonian

    HILLSBORO -- Police closed down two popular swap meets Saturday and arrested 10 people on accusations of selling counterfeit CDs and DVDs in what one recording industry official called Oregon's biggest piracy raid.

    Sgt. Paul Wandell, Beaverton police spokesman, said officers seized more than 50,000 items worth about $758,000. Most of the items were fake music CDs and movie DVDs, along with knockoff designer purses, sunglasses and clothing, and counterfeit brand-name toys, Wandell said.

    Marcus Cohen, anti-piracy counsel for the Recording Industry Association of America, called the number of items seized at the M&M Swap Meet and Millennium Flea Market "overwhelming."

    Besides being "the largest piracy raid in Oregon to date," Cohen said, Saturday's crackdown also was one of the largest operations in the country.

    Wandell said Beaverton police got a tip about counterfeit items being sold at a Beaverton market in December, and the investigation led them to the Hillsboro flea markets.

    Cohen was amazed by the quality of some of the bogus CDs and packaging, saying a good percentage of the Hillsboro discs were being counterfeited by a million-dollar replication machine like the music industry uses.

    About 20 recording and movie industry investigators came from California to help police identify counterfeit items.

    "We were surprised about the size and sophistication," Cohen said, standing in a steady drizzle Saturday afternoon at the chain-link fence that surrounds M&M. "It's something we are going to be paying very close attention to, finding who has a replication machine that shouldn't."

    The names of those arrested and the charges were not immediately available. The owners of the swap meets were not arrested, but Lt. Michael Rouches, Hillsboro police spokesman, said he would ask city officials to look into revoking the owners' business license if they knew what was going on.

    The flea markets are held every weekend.

    Hayde Miranda, one of the M&M owners, said she didn't know any of the vendors were selling anything illegally. "It's unfortunate that some of our vendors, who are independent business owners, were selling things that were fake. We rent to them, but we have nothing to do with what they sell."

    Miranda said M&M would be open today.

    When dozens of police officers arrived about 12:30 p.m. Saturday to serve a search warrant at M&M, there were about 200 customers wandering booths that sell food, clothing, jewelry, trinkets, car parts, music and movies. While police blocked the entrance, a steady stream of drivers and pedestrians approached the gate at 346 S.W. Walnut St., hoping to get in and wondering what was happening.

    "There were some vendors who ran and left their money behind, and some grabbed their money and booked," Wandell said. "But there were no problems, and it was very orderly."

    Customers and vendors leaving throughout the afternoon as police packed up seized merchandise said they were not bothered by the raid. "The police were just doing their jobs," said a car parts vendor who didn't want to give his name. The vendors who were arrested "knew what they were doing was illegal," he said.

    Wandell said customers who purchased counterfeit items would not be targeted because it would be hard to prove they knew the merchandise was fake. The CDs seized Saturday were selling for about $4.50 each and the DVDs for between $4 and $12, he said.

    Fake CDs and DVDs usually have poorly printed labels, loose shrink-wrap or a different kind of covering, Wandell said. Some of the movies seized Saturday included "Shrek the Third" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End," which are still in theaters and haven't been released on DVD yet.

    Cohen sai

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    1. Re:Help us serve you better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Most of the items were fake music CDs and movie DVDs,

      Thats actually not true. They are genuine music CDs containing copyright infringing material. The content of the media doe not stop it conforming to the CD specifications.

      A lot of the genuine music CDs (containing DRM) are fake as they often dont conform to the full CD specifications.

    2. Re:Help us serve you better by qbwiz · · Score: 2, Informative

      I suspect that they were multiplying the price of each item by its legitimate retail value, not its counterfeit retail value (which is somewhat lower).

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  2. WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    There are international, federal, state laws that cover all sorts of piracy. It is not just a civil matter, The RIAA lays it all out here.

    You are so wrong, it's unbelievable. How does painfully wrong information get modded up like this?

  3. Re:A little math.... by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 2, Informative

    As someone who knows Beaverton well, I can say that hip-hop mix tapes are not a large item there.

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  4. Except by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Informative

    This story is actually about them using REAL local cops (the kind who should be busting drug dealers and burglars) to do their dirty work, not rentacops.

    1. Re:Except by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry but REAL cops don't do anything but give speedy tickets and eat donuts.

    2. Re:Except by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 4, Informative

      This story is actually about them using REAL local cops (the kind who should be busting drug dealers and burglars) to do their dirty work, not rentacops.

      In this case they can use real cops because copyright infringement for commercial gain (selling copies at a flea market for a profit) is criminal, not civil. I don't mind them going after the people who do this and make a profit from it - if you're paying for the junk you may as well just pay the original artists for it rather than some freeloader at a flea market who wants to make a quick buck. I get shitty when the [MAF]IAA goes after joe user for downloading a few songs from this new fangled interdoodle thing.

      The only reason they use rent-a-cop for their busting joe home user is because the real police won't touch it; there has been no crime if joe user downloads a song or a movie. In fact, the RIAA should just be filing civil suit in the small claims court, not busting into their house and whooping ass. I'd like to see some of the RIAA rent-a-cops and tossers get their asses shot up one day for busting into some Ilinois Nazi's place.

      If it's not real cops and they don't have real warrants wouldn't shooting up their ass come under reasonable force for self-defence?

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    3. Re:Except by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is my experience (been next to a place that was raided one time) that the police generally don't just kick in the front door - they knock and ask to come in first.


      IANAL, but I do work with cops and lawyers every day. There are some cases where a judge will grant what is called a "no-knock" warrant, but that is only supposed to be when there is a good chance that knocking will give the subject of the warrant time to either destroy the evidence sought or grab a gun and shoot first. I can't imagine a judge granting a no-knock for a "piracy" bust, but then stranger things have happened in my eight years in law enforcement-related work.

  5. Re:Civil? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm pretty sure that copyright infringement to the tune of $700k is criminal in the US. I don't know where the boundary is, but after a certain dollar amount, it becomes a criminal matter.

  6. It's a felony charge... by westlake · · Score: 2, Informative
    But it's also SOP for the RIAA to wield genuine officers paid for entirely from citizen taxes as copyright cops. Police were used in an RIAA-inspired raid at two flea markets in Beaverton, Oregon. 'Sgt. Paul Wandell, Beaverton police spokesman, said officers seized more than 50,000 items worth about $758,000,' says The Oregonian.

    The threshold for federal prosecution for copyright infringement is $2500. It is well within anyone's rights to ask the police to close down a million-dollar market in counterfeit goods. USDOJ Computer Crime & Intellectual Property Section

  7. Re:Good For Them by gravesb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, once you break a certain dollar amount, it becomes criminal, at least on the federal level.

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  8. Re:Good For Them by westlake · · Score: 4, Informative
    Copyright infringement is a civil issue, not a criminal issue.

    Copyright infringement can be - and is being - prosecuted as a felony under U.S. federal law. Cybercrime.gov

  9. Re:a touch of racism in this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Flamebait? I personally have no karma to whore, but the post author seems to be pointing out some fairly odious race-baiting. (And I noticed this _before_ reading the subject line.)

  10. Re:Civil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know where the boundary is, but after a certain dollar amount, it becomes a criminal matter.

    If the copyrighted works have at least $1000 retail value, it is criminal infringement.

  11. Re:Help us serve you better1. Their math doesn't a by AGMW · · Score: 2, Informative
    >>The $20 bill has a fixed value.
    >Huh? Ever heard of inflation?

    But I think what the GP is refering to is that even with inflation, the $20 bill will ALWAYS purchase $20 's worth of goods. In the case of a CD containing music, when it is first released, and assuming it is someone currently popular, it may sell for £15+ (in the UK). Give it 6 months or more and you will likely find it selling for £10, and another six months and it might in the Woolworths bargain bin for £5 or less!

    >>It's rather assinine to attempt to conflate counterfeiting of ANY consumer product and money.
    >Why? Money isn't real either - you can't walk into a Federal Reserve Bank, for example, and redeem it... so, by definition it has no inherent value, only that which we ascribe to it.

    It certainly used to be the case that bank notes would state "I promise to pay the bearer on demand ...", and this used to refer to gold (maybe that was just in the UK?). The idea was that cash would only be printed to cover the value of the gold reserves. I believe this is no longer the case after a "run on Gold" starting in the '60s ... from the article ...

    On August 15 (1971), with only $2.23 in gold available to redeem every $100 of U.S. paper promises, President Nixon declared international bankruptcy by closing the gold window. After that Sunday, as former Congressman Ron Paul and Lewis Lehrman have explained: "There were now absolutely no checks on the ability of the United States to inflate." And inflate the Fed has. By all measures, the money supply has increased by 400% since 1971.

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