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Internet2 Deployment Reaches Major Milestone

An anonymous reader writes "Internet2 today announced that the first East to West Coast span on its new nationwide 100 gigabit per second network has been completed and is providing production IP and circuit services. This deployment marks another major milestone in bringing leading- edge networking resources to the research and education community in the United States."

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  1. The Map by DaveWick79 · · Score: 4, Informative

    See http://www.internet2.edu/network/library/deploymen t_phases.pdf

    Almost as interested as what is covered is what is not yet covered. Does anyone know how long they expect this to take to fully implement?

    1. Re:The Map by bockelboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I attended a presentation by the CEO of I2 last month. This should be finished by the end of this year.

    2. Re:The Map by Phisbut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Almost as interested as what is covered is what is not yet covered. Does anyone know how long they expect this to take to fully implement?

      If by "fully implement" you mean "make it accessible to every Joe Somebody like the Internet 1 is", then I hope never. The original internet was intended for science and education, then AOL arrived and now it's filled with Viagra and Paris Hilton videos. Let's hope we learned from our mistakes and leave this Internet2 alone, out of commercial reach.

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  2. And it will only be a matter of time... by blcamp · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...before legitimate commerical interests take old.

    Then, after that - pr0n, spam, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z, and all the rest.

    After all, the first part of "Internet2" is "Internet".

    Won't it be great? Getting all those worms delivered at breakneck speeds?

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    1. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by IndieKid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Won't it be great? Getting all those worms delivered at breakneck speeds? At least with all the new bandwidth the worms will be able to take over your PC in glorious High Definition.
    2. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Funny

      pr0n, spam, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z

      One of these does not belong ...

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    3. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by MaXimillion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then, after that - pr0n, spam, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z, and all the rest. Won't it be great? Getting all those worms delivered at breakneck speeds?
      If your pr0n involves worms, you might want to keep it to yourself, as most of us do NOT want to know about it :p
    4. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by Erwos · · Score: 2

      Having legitimate commercial interests take hold would probably be a nice improvement over the copyright infringement free-for-all it is right now. As far as 99.9% of students care, it's just a really fast place to trade warez and porn.

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    5. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      pr0n, sp4m, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z


      One of these does not belong ...


      Fixed.
    6. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by owlnation · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dunno about you, but I was around on the Internet1 before the 'commercial interests' took hold.
      IIRC, the rise of spam and commercial interests were pretty much concurrent. But yes, pr0n and and hax0rs were there way way way before the suits got involved.

      There's probably a way of charting the rise of spam/commercial interests inversely against the IQ of the average Internet 1 user.

      Sadly, however, having ruined Internet 1 for many of us, the commercially interested are already foaming at the mouth in anticipation of Internet 2.
    7. Re:And it will only be a matter of time... by noahm · · Score: 2, Insightful
  3. Direct link to press release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  4. Still on dial-up by seniorcoder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm too far away for DSL. There is no cable modem service in my street. Am I stuck with dial-up to this mega-network? If so, progress seems a long way off to me.

    1. Re:Still on dial-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Internet2 was designed as a testbed for applications by universities and corporations. It was not designed to improve connection speeds to the internet for individuals. It is more like the ARPANET than the internet. Some applications designed on Internet2 may migrate to the users on the internet, but there are no plans for users of the internet to migrate to Internet2.

  5. Typo in the headline... by cccc828 · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is supposed to be Internet 2.0!

  6. Where do we stand? by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are we still behind countries like Korea and Canada on this front with this development? Let an informed soul clarify.

  7. Internet2?! by segedunum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh shit, I didn't realise I was on the wrong version. I better upgrade quick.

  8. damned kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Internet1 replies "I remember when we had to walk uphill through a 9600 baud line, both ways!!"

  9. The Internet2 outside of the US by mrhammi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have looked at the partner sites for the project http://international.internet2.edu/partners/ there doesn't seem to be much progress outside of the US. Are there plans for any that anybody is aware of?

  10. So, how will this be segregated? by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Will Internet2 always be the academic side, Internet1 remains separate, and they will just be upgraded in sections in the coming years? Will Internet2 always be the faster of the two? Will it serve as the proving ground for technology that later filters down to Internet1?

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  11. Re:Meaningless by bockelboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone know what the first file sent across it was? I'd imagine either pics of Xena or a Stargate: Atlantis episode.
    Hi,

    I transferred some of the first files over this network. It was Monte Carlo physics data produced for the CMS project. It took us about 20 minutes to go from 0 to 6.5 Gbps (we have a 10Gbps link to I2).

    P2P is not a big application on I2. Simply put, clients like Bittorrent don't scale well for individual transfers and there aren't enough transfers to really aggregate to an impressive number.

    I expect at least 100 Mbps per file using our transfer tools, then transfer many files at once.
  12. Most popular tech support question , 2.0 by Shohat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where do I donwload Internet 2 ?

  13. Re:What I want to see/hear from Internet2 by colfer · · Score: 2, Informative
    I read this: http://www.internet2.edu/projects/
    So it looks like several types of features are involved: network stuff (faster, better topology, etc.), "middleware" (authentication), and apps, specifically integrated voice, video, IM. How much will end up vaporware, or let's say feature-speak...?

    Hybrid Optical Networking Initiative (HOPI)
    Motivated by extreme applications that strain today's networks, the HOPI project investigates revolutionary network architectures that will serve as models for the next-generation of Internet2 networks.

    End-to-End Performance Initiative (E2EPI)
    By developing tools to embed performance and diagnostic technology within the network infrastructure, E2EPI is making it easier to create a more reliable, predictable and seamless network experience for all users, and encourage the adoption of next-generation network applications.

    Observatory
    To enable a better understanding of the inner-workings and use of a large-scale infrastructure by network engineers, researchers and users, the Observatory provides a unique and comprehensive real-time operational data associated with Internet2's nationwide high-performance network.

    Middleware Initiative
    The Middleware Initiative brings together leading IT architects from Internet2 member organizations to address critical issues in authentication and authorization in order to create practical and secure inter-institutional services.

    Security
    The Internet2 Security initiative supports members as they explore and implement network security in ways that ensure continued high-performance, innovation and support for advanced network applications.

    SIP.edu
    With an estimated 10 million Internet2-connected users, SIP.edu supports testing and encourages the adoption of advanced communications applications that integrate voice, video, and instant messaging through presence services and open standards.

    Internet2 Technology Evaluation Centers (ITEC)
    ITECs are national centers that provide leadership and support for the Internet2 community in specific areas of technology and networking, such as optical technologies, network performance, Voice over IP (VoIP), and video conferencing.
  14. Misused term by sherriw · · Score: 3, Informative

    Internet2 is a trademarked non-profit organization name. The network they are making is called the Abilene Network.

  15. Re:Meaningless by digitig · · Score: 2, Funny

    Monte Carlo Ah yes, internet gambling, how did we forget that one? ;-)
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  16. Re:Meaningless by costing · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Being a CMS researcher I guess you have already heard about http://monalisa.cern.ch/FDT/ that was especially developed for this purpose (high speed transfer over paths with large RTT). It goes to the maximum possible transfer rate in a matter of seconds and can pipe multiple files through the same channel especially to avoid situations like you describe.

  17. Double? by HotBBQ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will Internet2 have twice the tubes or tubes twice the size?