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Internet2 Deployment Reaches Major Milestone
An anonymous reader writes "Internet2 today announced that the first East to West Coast span on its new nationwide 100 gigabit per second network has been completed and is providing production IP and circuit services. This deployment marks another major milestone in bringing leading- edge networking resources to the research and education community in the United States."
What's to stop someone like National American University or University of Phoenix from getting access to this and spamming the hell out of me? They already do it with snail mail
See http://www.internet2.edu/network/library/deploymen t_phases.pdf
Almost as interested as what is covered is what is not yet covered. Does anyone know how long they expect this to take to fully implement?
Then, after that - pr0n, spam, hax0rs, skr1p7 k1dd13z, and all the rest.
After all, the first part of "Internet2" is "Internet".
Won't it be great? Getting all those worms delivered at breakneck speeds?
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The press release: https://mail.internet2.edu/wws/arc/i2-news/2007-06 /msg00003.html
I'm too far away for DSL. There is no cable modem service in my street. Am I stuck with dial-up to this mega-network? If so, progress seems a long way off to me.
"education community"
'Cough' P2P ?
Great ! I need a bigger pipe for my porn and music shares !
(and no my pipe is plenty big as is.. pervs)
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it is supposed to be Internet 2.0!
Are we still behind countries like Korea and Canada on this front with this development? Let an informed soul clarify.
Oh shit, I didn't realise I was on the wrong version. I better upgrade quick.
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I have looked at the partner sites for the project http://international.internet2.edu/partners/ there doesn't seem to be much progress outside of the US. Are there plans for any that anybody is aware of?
Will Internet2 always be the academic side, Internet1 remains separate, and they will just be upgraded in sections in the coming years? Will Internet2 always be the faster of the two? Will it serve as the proving ground for technology that later filters down to Internet1?
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I transferred some of the first files over this network. It was Monte Carlo physics data produced for the CMS project. It took us about 20 minutes to go from 0 to 6.5 Gbps (we have a 10Gbps link to I2).
P2P is not a big application on I2. Simply put, clients like Bittorrent don't scale well for individual transfers and there aren't enough transfers to really aggregate to an impressive number.
I expect at least 100 Mbps per file using our transfer tools, then transfer many files at once.
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With InternetX deployed last August (2020), we can now surf the Internet Way Back Machine 4.0 by directly accessing web pages in the past. The only thing we have to over come is that we have to assign NATted TSC/IP addresses (also known as IPv32, 32 sets of 32bit strings) to address computers in the TSC (time space continuum). (Oh, I've already got my lawyers working in 2007 to cover patents on TSC/IP)
Your puny Internet2 was relegated to serve up Paris Hilton news and 24/7 coverage of the Anna Nicole Clones Show on the White Trash Network (formerly known as FoxNews).
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Where do I donwload Internet 2 ?
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But who hammered in the Golden Fiber Spike?
_/\ - Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crud.
The thought of simulated wood paneling is indeed compelling.
So it looks like several types of features are involved: network stuff (faster, better topology, etc.), "middleware" (authentication), and apps, specifically integrated voice, video, IM. How much will end up vaporware, or let's say feature-speak...? Hybrid Optical Networking Initiative (HOPI)
Motivated by extreme applications that strain today's networks, the HOPI project investigates revolutionary network architectures that will serve as models for the next-generation of Internet2 networks.
End-to-End Performance Initiative (E2EPI)
By developing tools to embed performance and diagnostic technology within the network infrastructure, E2EPI is making it easier to create a more reliable, predictable and seamless network experience for all users, and encourage the adoption of next-generation network applications.
Observatory
To enable a better understanding of the inner-workings and use of a large-scale infrastructure by network engineers, researchers and users, the Observatory provides a unique and comprehensive real-time operational data associated with Internet2's nationwide high-performance network.
Middleware Initiative
The Middleware Initiative brings together leading IT architects from Internet2 member organizations to address critical issues in authentication and authorization in order to create practical and secure inter-institutional services.
Security
The Internet2 Security initiative supports members as they explore and implement network security in ways that ensure continued high-performance, innovation and support for advanced network applications.
SIP.edu
With an estimated 10 million Internet2-connected users, SIP.edu supports testing and encourages the adoption of advanced communications applications that integrate voice, video, and instant messaging through presence services and open standards.
Internet2 Technology Evaluation Centers (ITEC)
ITECs are national centers that provide leadership and support for the Internet2 community in specific areas of technology and networking, such as optical technologies, network performance, Voice over IP (VoIP), and video conferencing.
Security being the big one. Are they using IP protocols? Same old SMTP?
Yep I remember using i2hub, sweet program. The network admins at my school even used it to download movies.
Internet2 is a trademarked non-profit organization name. The network they are making is called the Abilene Network.
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Being a CMS researcher I guess you have already heard about http://monalisa.cern.ch/FDT/ that was especially developed for this purpose (high speed transfer over paths with large RTT). It goes to the maximum possible transfer rate in a matter of seconds and can pipe multiple files through the same channel especially to avoid situations like you describe.
I figure 640 gigabits should be enough for anyone, so they still have a way to go.
At my school, we've got access to Internet2, but I haven't really figured out a way to utilize it. Does anyone know of a way the network can be accessed for transfers? I ran a test on my machine that said it could access Abilene, but I haven't really found a way to know i'm using it.
I'm curious if it is automatic for some uses, like distros from other institutes. I downloaded Knoppix in a short length of time from Duke while in my dorm room, averaging speeds between 800-1500KB/s.
Anyone know how easy/hard it is to use the network? Or at least point me in the right direction?
Will Internet2 have twice the tubes or tubes twice the size?
Nice Andrew S. Tanenbaum reference.
100Mbps to the home, wow nice, now I can get much faster pr0n downloads and 100x more v14gra spam.