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Details and Rumors of iPhone Restrictions Emerging
We're getting indications of the ways the iPhone will be sold (or not sold) and restricted by Apple and AT&T. Reader thefickler writes, "An anonymous AT&T store manager has told blorge.com that users will get their WiFi when they sign a contract locking them into a data plan and EDGE. Kiss your dreams of WiFi reliance goodbye." And our own CmdrTaco found an article up on AppleInsider reporting that the iPhone will not be sold through established business channels — forcing Cingular business customers to stand in line for their goodies, as individuals, at Apple stores. An AT&T Business Division rep told one customer, "There is no ETA on the [ending of the] sale ban to business."
I just got off the phone with the AT&T National Business Ordering Center, and they confirmed that they *will* be selling the iPhone to individuals attached to business accounts (i.e., accounts with FANs) on 29 June. It's possible that the person to whom I spoke might have just been BS'ing, but I figure that person is at least as reliable as the anonymous sources in the article summary.
If this thing is DOA, no app development, and a lot of other lock in restrictions. I am not sure who the customers of those things should be the technical crowd definitely is not.
And lots of other usual apple customers probably are shied away by the contract enforcements connected to this thing.
I assume it will be the crowd who wants to have the latest shiny toy. I am not sure if this thing will be able to stand on its own after some initial success. Apple could have had a winner on this thing if they wouldnt have played Sony or Nintendo in trying to lock the user of this thing down!
It probably will come down to how fast the thing will be hacked open!
but does this surprise anyone? For-profit companies maximizing profit by locking users in and limiting access to ensure demand--what a shocker.
Let's face it, if this were any non-Apple or non-tech product we'd all shake our heads at the sad gullibility of the purchasing public and move on. The fact that this is a highly anticipated product that's going to have limited availability isn't anything unusual in and of itself. Apple and Cingular are going to make a good bit of money, which is what they're both in business to do.
Cellular service providers have made it a practice to "strongly encourage" customers to sign up for multi-year contracts to get a better deal on phones, subsidizing the cost of the phones, for which very few people would be willing to pay full price. The WiFi restriction, if true, is just more of the same.
In any event, I can pretty much guarantee that there will be hacks to work around this. I've never owned a phone (much less a smart phone) that wasn't hacked to get around carrier restrictions.
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Rather than hearing gossip from AT&T reps who almost certainly know virtually nothing about the final details of iPhone marketing (the only information I'm aware of them being provided is a brochure that explains how the thing works), why don't we wait until we get official announcements from Apple and AT&T. Not only are these rumors almost certainly based upon speculation and technological ignorance, but even if both Apple and AT&T have provisionally decided to go with them, there's still a strong chance of them changing their minds in the next week or two.
It's not even 100% clear if the iPhone will need a contract at this stage. Apple hastily removed language implying such from the online version of their ads, and AT&T has internal codes set up for selling iPhones with GoPhone plans, according to some reportage. This week we've seen Apple at a high-level flip flopping on various issues, such as the pretense of ZFS in Leopard (initially ruled out, then changed to present in a stripped down form), and the ability of Leopard's bootcamp to be used as a switcher between suspended versions of Windows and Mac OS X.
The final decisions haven't been made yet.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Apple and AT&T are not concerned at this point with price, contract requirements, etc. It's simple business. So many people want this thing right now they could charge $140 per month and $1000 for the phone and still not meet production demand. Give it a few months (6 tops) until the other vendors are allowed to join the game, and until other supported data system networks are added and the price will drop as fast as that for the RAZR. Remember, the RAZR was a $300 phone when it came out, and it's just a phone... I expect iPhones with limited use contracts (instead of unlimited) and only 1 year sign on requirements to be available for $399 or less within 6 months and $249 in a year.
There is no contest in life for which the unprepared have the advantage.
If the SIM card is not removable, what happens if someone accidentally locks the SIM card by typoing their PIN, then the PUC (unblock code) too many times? On GSM phones, it would require a new SIM card, which isn't too expensive, around $20 or so at a T-Mobile or AT&T store. However, if the SIM card is not removable on an iPhone would mean that too many typos would permanently brick the phone.
Hopefully this isn't the case.
But what I haven't yet been able to figure out is why anybody except the most extreme junkies is going to purchase this phone.
I don't see it as a phone with an iPod & Browser in it.
I see it as an at-long-last replacement for the old Newton, with a phone in it.
If, by "the most extreme junkies", you mean 1 percent of the current cell phone market, then Apple hits their sales target for this phone right there. Get a few casual and/or business users on board, and it becomes one of Apple's most successful product launches, ever.
But they'll be doing it without me, so long as it's locked into high-priced, low-performance, long-term contracts.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
I think carrying around my entire music collection is a dumb idea. Because there are many things in my collection I know I'll never want to listen to while I'm out galavanting around. Besides the fact that it's just an enormous amount of music that would take an impractical amount of time to navigate around to find what I listen to, the total runtime of the collection would eclipse battery life by a factor of 1000:1 likely.
I understand that some people love to tote around everything they have, but I think this is a waste of time and effort.
As for the data plan, I'm very happy that you have WiFi available where ever you go around your home town. 99% of America I'd say does not. So for alot of people, like me, I'm sure they'll happily sign up for a data plan they'll need anyway. I'm not sure why people wouldn't want a data service anyway as at least a back-up in the same vain that I'm not sure why people want to take their whole gigantic music collection around with them.
I just wasted your mod points! HA!
Difference between the Newton and the iPhone? Steve Jobs and fifteen plus years of history. Love my MP2100. Have all the Newton books and dev tools. Never use it. Hell, I even have an Ethernet card and an ISDN card for it!
iPhone not a business/enterprise PDA phone? WTF, are you smoking dope?
iPhone supports:
1. Standards compliant web browser. Find me one on any other PDA platform, please. Seriously.
2. IMAP email (supported by every serious email server out there, including Exchange). Show me a nice IMAP client for any other PDA. Go ahead, make my day.
3. Calendaring (which Apple would be absolutely nuts not to have working with iCal Server/Darwin Calendar Server), but at least we know for damn sure it will work on a Mac like a damn Mac application should, which is better than I can say for any other PDA I've seen.
4. Custom Google Maps application that blows the J2ME version out of the water, never mind trying to use the regular browser version on *any* handheld device.
What exactly do you think it is that the iPhone would so desparately need to be a biz/ent PDA phone in your eyes? Palm, RIM, and Microsoft are about to get their asses handed to them, and they know it better than you do...
Oh, but maybe you just didn't realize that there are an awful lot of people that get paid a hell of a lot of money working for large enterprises that actually use Macs as their primary computers?
Rrrright. Because Flash doesn't work with WebKit...for the last fscking time, it's the same damn browser. Only the interface wrapper is different. Jobs cannot get up on stage and release materials containing materialy false statements about Apple products. The SEC would hang his ass out to dry--they'd love to get him on something after his whistle past the cemetary bypassing of the options backdating scandal.