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Identity Thief Apprehended By Victim

ewhac writes "Karen Lodrick was entering her sixth month of hell dealing with the repercussions of having her identity stolen and used to loot her accounts. But while she was waiting for a beverage, there standing in line was the woman who appeared on Wells Fargo security video emptying her accounts. What followed was a 45 minute chase through San Francisco streets that ended with the thief being taken into custody by police."

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  1. 45 minutes? by jhutchens · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would take me 45 minutes to run up ONE of thoes big SF hills.

  2. Re:Lucky it was the police by mulvane · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would plead innocent that I DID NOT kill myself and that I am alive as proof.

  3. That's not all! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

    On top of the credit cards and prada bags, that fiend even had the tenacity to start up a web consulting business in her name!

    ...Yes, I know, but after all she's been through I think she deserves a gratuitous plug.

  4. If they didn't believe you... by benhocking · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would they convict you on successful (as opposed to attempted) suicide?

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  5. Re:Feh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yep. This is the worst part of the feel-good story -- the end. So after all of this, the unrepentant thief gets ... time served + probation? The fact that she was already on probation for fraud when she started her crime spree is like an EXTRA slap in the face. She could've walked out of that courtroom and done exactly the same thing, to the original victim, or someone else.

    I thought the point of probation was that if you committed a crime during your probation, you went to jail. No? Then what's the point? We hear about jail sentences for people who are too stupid to close up porn popups, but someone who flagrantly breaks the law, and willfully causes real financial and emotional harm to another person while on probation for (probably?) doing the same thing before, gets probation?

    It doesn't make sense. I guess the stereotypes of California being an overly liberal state must be true. The Daily Show said it best when they said that the lesson from the high profile murder acquittals was that if you're going to commit murder, make sure you do it in California.

  6. getting off scott free... by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was clear Nelson had targeted her: Lodrick changed bank accounts and identification numbers, only to find that Nelson had again broken into her mail and stolen the new information and was still after her accounts.

    Where the hell were the postal service inspectors? The USPS has an entire police force for dealing with this sort of stuff. I can see it now, down at USPS Homedonut Protection Service:

    "Hey Billy-Bob, we had a carrier's keys stolen. Think we should do something?"
    "Nah, Bo-Billy, we gots terrorists to watch out for."
    "But we have a report of identity theft from..."
    "T-E-R-R-I-S-T-S. We gots CQB trainin' this afternoon."

    She was sentenced by Superior Court Judge Harold Kahn to the 44 days she had already served in county jail and three years' probation.

    What about mail fraud? Theft of mail?

    Nelson also was ordered to make restitution in an amount to be determined by the court and to stay away from Lodrick.

    "Amount to be determined"? How about ALL OF IT?

    Those were the terms of a plea bargain negotiated by Assistant District Attorney Reve Bautista with Nelson's public defender, Christopher Hite.

    The DA had her on TAPE using someone else's bank account. It was clearly planned and multiple victims were involved. They no doubt could have searched her properties and found the mail, the stolen keys, etc. The goods that were charged either involved her going to stores (where she'd be on camera) or mail order / online, where the goods had to be delivered somewhere (and the cops could have been waiting for her to pick up.)

    Why in god's name did they need to plea-bargain? Why does it always seem that to scam artists, identity thieves, and drunk drivers the justice system is a revolving door?

    1. Re:getting off scott free... by Tridus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If they were smart, they'd have called the forgery a copyright infrigment, then they could lock her away for years.

      Isn't it great to live in a society where stealing someones identity and causing all this mayhem is considered worthy of probation (when you're already on probation!), but copying a movie warrants several years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in penalties?

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  7. Re:Lucky it was the police by gazbo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Speaking as someone whose moral code is at least slightly more advanced than Ghegis Khan's, I can safely say that yes I certainly would convict someone who murdered a thief who posed no threat.

    Jesus Christ, get some fucking perspective.

  8. Justice? by wytcld · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On June 6, she pleaded guilty to one felony count of using another person's identification fraudulently. She was sentenced by Superior Court Judge Harold Kahn to the 44 days she had already served in county jail and three years' probation.


    Why not the death penalty? Seriously, what social use is there for anyone who'd commit identity theft? We've filled our jails with potheads - who hurt nobody and subtract nothing from society, indeed include many of our most artistically accomplished people - and yet the penalty for stealing tens of thousands through identity theft, and running the victims through months of hell - is probation? It should be at minimum 20 years in jail.
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    "with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
  9. A related story by rfc1394 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This woman was in a department store and was purchasing something. As she approached the counter, she handed the clerk her credit card. The clerk went to use the machine but it apparently wasn't working, so she had to use a phone to call in the card. A short time later, a security guard came over and grabbed the customer. The cashier had actually called in a code to have the guard come by. The clerk said that she realized the woman was committing identity theft.

    The astonished customer couldn't believe it, and asked the cashier how on earth she knew. She said, "Because that's my name on the card, and that's my credit card that had been stolen."

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  10. Re:Lucky it was the police by wild_berry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's inexcusable to say that murder is ever an appropriate recourse after crime. But then, I don't support capital punishment. For the simple reason that, as terrible as Identity Theft is, it's not as final as murder.

  11. Re:Yep by morari · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course she could have, this is America. You can sue McDonald's for making you a fat, lazy dumbass! You can sue for cutting your hand on shards of glass from the window you shattered while breaking into someone's house. You can press charges if your idiotic kid falls out of a tree in your neighbor's yard or drowns in their pool while trespassing. Smell that? That's stupidity, it replaced freedom a long time ago in this country.

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  12. Re:Lucky it was the police by z80kid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If only we had some kind of system... something to do with a series of rules, we could call them, um, "laws". And some kind of "legal" system.

    Funny, TFA alluded to the idea of a "legal system" to punish the girl with something called "probation", which apparently involves being scolded and then set free. According to TFA, it was at least the second time this "legal system" had to impose this severe penalty.

  13. Re:Lucky it was the police by sohare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [i]So you're a moral relativist?[/i] How could any responsible and culturally literate individual not be somewhat of a relativist? Given that there is never any absolutes and no action has any inherent meaning, it's time we stepped out of the dark ages.

    I'm not saying we should go around killing people for petty crimes, or even murder, but there are a lot of sociopaths and absolute shitbags that only leech off society. You can, maybe, rehabilitate the shitbags, but the sociopaths I'm not so sure about.

  14. Re:I had a similar experience by ReverendHoss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only to a point. I'm willing to bet that very few criminals ever go through the hassle of pulling off credit card fraud once

    Sure, for a single $250 charge, there's very little benefit. But if that person may be doing it with ten different cards. And that person may be willing to name an accomplice, or reveal the hole they are using to get names and numbers. Chances are, they'd be saving a lot more than just $250.

    Hell, can you imagine the PR on the commercials by getting their customer to talk about how the credit card company rode in like an avenging angel and smote the identity thief who made them feel scared, and unsafe? How many hours the customer spent changing credit card numbers, and trying to clean up their credit rating? And how the credit card company was willing to do this over a simple $50 charge?

  15. Re:Lucky it was the police by mopower70 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have obviously never been burgled. It's even more obvious that if you have, you weren't home when it happened. The fear and degradation of not being able to protect yourself, your family, or your home will haunt you for the rest of your life. You may never sleep well again.

    "Some asshole" who has the balls to walk in your front door and carry out your stereo in front of you is just as likely to tie you up and put a bullet in your head to prevent you from talking about it. You aren't shooting someone to prevent your property from being stolen: you're shooting someone to prevent them from doing something other than just stealing your property. If they have violated the sanctity of your home, the step to violating your right to life is not too far off.