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New System Detects Calls While Driving

Gary writes "Talking on your cellphone while driving isn't a crime in most states, but it should be. Studies have shown that people who drive and talk are many times more likely to have an accident. A new company is releasing a device to automatically detect drivers talking on their cell phones. Instead of police officers needing to observe a cellphone in use, the system automatically detects a cell phone call and records which car was making the call." The article is fairly light on details, but it would be interesting to see how the system differentiates from a driver talking on a cell phone versus a mere passenger.

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  1. Sooo... by Tuoqui · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who thinks a blow up doll in the car will fool this technology?

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    1. Re:Sooo... by Technician · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Who thinks a blow up doll in the car will fool this technology?

      More important, how many without a cell phone will be tagged because they have On Star. It may take the blinking 12 o'clockers a while to figure that one out.

      (Blinking 12 o'clockers, those with every VCR and microwave clocking blinking 12:00)

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    2. Re:Sooo... by Original+Replica · · Score: 3, Informative
      What about all the bluetooth headset providers? Most people bought the headsets specifically for driving.

      Headsets or speaker phones being safer while driving is a myth.

      "The principal findings for this experiment are that: (a) SPs that engaged in cell phone conversations missed twice as many simulated traffic signals as when they were not talking on the cell phone, (b) SPs took longer to react to those signals that they did detect, and (c) these deficits were equivalent for both hand-held and hands-free cell phone users." http://www.nsc.org/issues/idrive/inincell.htm


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  2. Legal cell phone use by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There's plenty of legal cell phone use in cars too, even if it's not a passenger doing it.
    • Hands-free systems
    • Systems like OnStar, where you can get a weather report at the touch of a button.
    • GPS systems that automatically download maps for nearby areas
      • ... and probably a lot more.

    1. Re:Legal cell phone use by kannibal_klown · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think there are different levels of "phone calls." I know people that have intense conversations while driving, going on and on. It takes a lot of thought for those kind of conversations, even if the subject matter is stupid, and I have no doubt in my mind that such conversations greatly reduce the driver's ability to poor levels. anything that has a lot of back-and-forth, arguing, memorization (grocery list), etc can probably screw you up. In some of the "tests" I've seen, they've tried to structure the conversation to keep ensuring that the driver is paying attention a lot and engaging in responses, at times "quizzing" them.

      But there are also quick/short/to-the-point conversations. "Honey, there's construction on the freeway I'm going to be late tonight." "Son, a package is coming in from UPS. Can you be around today to sign for it?" Etc

      Personally, I try to limit any phone calls (through my OnStar system) to short/auto-pilot conversations. They rarely get close to the 1 minute mark and require little thought on my end. Unfortunately there's no way to determine what kind of conversation you're having or how much you're concentrating, short of listening in or perhaps looking at the call time.

    2. Re:Legal cell phone use by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I disagree. Talking on a hands-free system isn't as good as just driving the freakin' car, but it is better than using a handset.

      I ride a motorcycle, and have, therefore, become a keen observer of other people's driving habits. I believe there is a clear hirearcy of cell phone related bad driving.

      1. Email/SMS (Should be punishable by summary execution.)
      2. Dialing (This seems to be far and away the most common cause of really bad driving.)
      3. Talking on a handset. (It seems to create a total lack of awareness of the cell phone side of the vehicle. Not sure why.)
      4. Hands free (Potentially less dangerous than talking with a passenger.)


      You can make various arguments that talking to someone who isn't in the car requires more attention, but I think this is more than offset by the visual distraction of conversing with a passenger.

      There are several other common distractions. Fiddling with the stereo, disciplining children, applying makeup, and eating come to mind. Map reading ranks. I actually saw a guy reading a novel while merging onto the highway about a week ago. Unreal.

      Anyway, I think voice dialing is a HUGE win, and hands free talking has noticeably less negative impact on driving in my experience.

      I would genuinely like to know why you disagree.

      -Peter
  3. What if a passenger is making the call? by leptonhead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Automatic law enforcement is cheap but it's not the way to go. Make it illegal and slap offenders with a hard punishment to deter people. It works well enough with all other reasonable laws, so why do it differently with this one?

  4. Clarify For Me by Bob9113 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I support drunk driving laws. And I have heard that cell driving is similar in impairment to drink driving (though I think the studies so far have been less than perfectly rigorous). So that makes me tend to support the idea of cell driving laws.

    However, at the same time, I see plenty of erratic and dangerous drivers who aren't talking on cell phones. Why is a cell driving law a better idea than simply getting tougher on poor driving? Or at least shouldn't getting tougher on poor driving come first?

    It seems like the main (or at least first) question should not be, "Are you on a cell phone?" but, "Do you present a risk to others?"

  5. Goes Too Far by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see a system that shoots paintballs or shuts off cell phones getting too far in the US. This really goes too far and can potentially create more chaos than it is worth. I can almost hear the lawsuits being filed now the first time one of those paintballs causes a wreck, or when a physician talking to a patient has his/her phone disabled rushing to the hospital. Technology is a great thing, but ultimately laws should be enforced via human education and discipline.

  6. We should ban radios and children in cars too by WalterGR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of police officers needing to observe a cellphone in use, the system automatically detects a cell phone call and records which car was making the call.

    The system should also automatically detect children in the car, and report those to the police. Or how about radios? That's easy - just report every car. From here:

    Around 98 percent of reported accidents involve a single distracted driver concentrating not on the road, but rather on one of the following:
    • (snip)
    • Child/Passenger Distraction (9%)
    • Adjusting Radio/CD (7%)
    • Cell Phone (6%)

    (Of course, I understand that radios in cars are far more common than cell phones. Was merely making a point.)

  7. "but it should be.." by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No it shouldn't.

    Distracted driving should be a crime. IF the person is observed driving distracted, then ticket them. I don't care why they were distracted, whether it is cell phone use, putting on make up, or getting a blow job.

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  8. The system does not zap/paintball your car. by e9th · · Score: 3, Informative

    The company's site explains (in annoying Flash) that the system merely photographs the car. Later, the photos are manually inspected to determine whether it was the driver who was using the phone.

  9. So where's my insurance rebate? by gelfling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tell you what, Nanny State, you criminalize the phone. But in exchange I want massive reductions in my car insurance because now everyone is safe and snug.

    1. Re:So where's my insurance rebate? by gelfling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If something is SUCH a problem as to require legal prohibition you can be damn sure I demand a rebate. Apparently cell phones are a bigger menace than smoking crack while getting head while running from the cops. OK fair enough. And since 3 out of 4 people I see driving are also talking on the phone it must be such a national calamity as to require the Big Boot of Mother Government to stomp in and save me. Literally, save me because I must be on a grease slicked highway to hell. So - given that, I want, no I demand the actuaries to look again at what can only be a massive reduction in the billions of people perishing every day on America's highways of death.

  10. Not just cell phones by badc0ffee · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was driving down the freeway with all the other traffic doing about 70MPH when I noticed this blond in the car next to me putting on her makeup in the rear view mirror. She started creeping into my lane, and upset me so much I dropped my cell phone into my coffee, which got my donuts all wet and soggy.

    I go for a bicycle ride every morning and have noticed that in about 1 of 4 cars, the driver is either not looking at the road while dialing, talking or just finishing a call. If I have to cross traffic, I make sure the driver sees and acknowledges my presence. If they are on a cell phone, even at a stop sign, they are either oblivious to my presence or the invisibility cloak is working.

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  11. Re:Teach people to multi-task by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The key difference is that you can't usually crash your airliner if you lose attention for a split second.

    A car traveling at 80kph makes 22 meters per second, that's more than the width of the average road. And all you need to die is to lose control for a moment.

  12. Re:Here it comes by Sunburnt · · Score: 4, Informative

    why not flood us with links to statistical studies proving your inferred point?

    I'll start.

    From the study:

    The principal findings for this experiment are that: (a) SPs [study participants] that engaged in cell phone conversations missed twice as many simulated traffic signals as when they were not talking on the cell phone, (b) SPs took longer to react to those signals that they did detect, and (c) these deficits were equivalent for both hand-held and hands-free cell phone users.
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  13. Re:it's just a hidden tax by BroadwayBlue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But why single out talking on cell phones? Where is the system to detect an intense conversation with a passenger, changing the radio station, fumbling with the A/C controls in a rental car, a crying baby in the back seat.... We've accepted that driving is hazardous. Everybody on the road knows it. News flash, there are irresponsible or distracted drivers out there; look out! A driver should be able to safely speed away from someone that is doing something that is stupid. A driver should be able to call the police when they drive by someone who is in trouble. Driving will always by a highly variable and highly hazardous situation that one voluntarily puts themselves in. That little yellow line isn't going to stop someone from drifting over onto your side of the road. You have to pay attention constantly. It shouldn't matter what other people are doing; assume everyone is drunk, distracted, or whatever and adjust your driving accordingly. Stop worrying about them and make sure you are doing what is necessary to stay safe. You only have control of your own situation. A thousand laws won't give you control over someone else.

  14. Re:Here it comes by russ1337 · · Score: 3, Funny

    There was a radio breakfast show in Melbourne Australia talking to the legendary (and not very bright) Warwick Capper who they were interviewing by phone while he was in his car. Warwick says he has to put the phone down because there is a cop up ahead and does so... you then heard the high-pitch thick aussie accent shrill of a female saying "Warrick.... I'm the one driving".

  15. Problems by ls+-la · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A few problems with this:
    1. I saw nothing about checking whether it was the driver or passenger using the cellphone.
    2. They will get sued out of existence the first time the automatic paintball gun hits a nice new expensive car.
    3. The EMP.
    -- Cars nowadays are highly dependent on their electronic controls. How would the EMP not disable them?
    -- If any electronics besides the cellphone are disabled, that would also lead to a lawsuit the company likely could not win.

    In short, there are too many problems for this to be practical.

  16. Hyperbole, Hoax, BS... Shenanigans! by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WOW, this is so completely bogus it's not even funny. The "Company" site is amateurish at best, paint balls thudding on the car could CAUSE an accident, and EMP would take out not only the phone (permanently), but also the car computer, and all other electronics in a fairly decent radius, causing the car to halt where it is rather abruptly.

    This product is totally bogus and will never happen as stated in this article. That doesn't even cover legal cell phone use with hands-free and /or the possibility that isn't the PASSENGER.

    I Call Shenanigans on this!

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  17. Re:What's the difference? by paganizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which is why you say either "hey, I'll call you back, I'm in traffic" or "hey, shut up for a minute, weirdness is afoot".
    If I'm in a Heavy traffic area, i don't talk on the phone, I need all my attention on the road.
    But if I'm driving back home 6 miles from getting groceries, where I will see maybe 4 cars, total, after i get out of the city limits?
    The problem is, like everything else, the State wants to be my Mommy. I have a mother, i don't need OR want another one. I'm a adult, I've been driving for almost 30 years in all sorts of environments, I haven't had a accident for over 20 years, and that one wasn't my fault.
    If you are going to let me vote & drive in the first place, don't you sort of kind of think I can be trusted to NOT do something suicidally stupid?

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  18. Re:Like seatbelt laws.... by paganizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Smoking?
    I quit smoking a while back, but I'm pretty sure that outside of the lighting process, absolutely no brain activity is required whatsover to smoke.
    Which might be why so many people do it, come to think of it.

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  19. But but but... by w3woody · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you outlaw blow jobs, then only outlaws will get blow jobs.