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Blockbuster Chooses Blu-ray

s31523 writes "The format war between HD-DVD and Blu-ray has posted another battle, this time the victor seems to be the Blu-ray side. Blockbuster has announced it has chosen Blu-ray as the HD format to rent out in the majority of its stores. This decision comes after rental data was looked at for the 250 stores that carry both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray with the majority of rentals being Blu-Ray. Blockbuster now plans to stock Blu-ray only in 1450 of it's stores, but says the 250 stores with the HD-DVD movies will be kept on the shelf."

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  1. Freedom to choose by allscan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet another win for Netflix, which allows you to pick your favorite HD format!

    1. Re:Freedom to choose by monk.e.boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yet another win for BitTorrent, which allows you to pick your favorite HD format!

      :-P

      monk.e.boy

  2. someone's getting paid off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Someone's getting paid off. With no clear winner in the format war, it doesn't make sense that they would want to stock both.

  3. A little meaning, perhaps by jimicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More interesting will be to see what the retail giants do.

    If Wal-Mart decides not to stock HD-DVD (or, for that matter, Blu-Ray) titles, then that's more interesting.

    Myself, I think the idea of two formats which (unlike VHS/Betamax) are, at first glance, practically identical and come in very similar cases yet require different players is absurd. Unless and until either one wins or dual-format players become commonplace, there's going to be some very pissed off people when they get their shiny new film home only to find that it won't play.

    1. Re:A little meaning, perhaps by Fozzyuw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More interesting will be to see what the retail giants do.

      I would say equally interesting. I think a rental giant will have more sway than a retailer as I believe the average consumer rents more than they buy. If I wanted to buy a HD format (well, I wouldn't because regular DVD is all I need, but IF I did, I would get a duel-player), if I had a choice of renting Blu-rays at any number of Blockbusters (I'm also a Blockbuster Online member) or having a hard time finding HD-DVD rentals, I would choose Blu-Ray.

      Unless and until either one wins or dual-format players become commonplace

      Given the debatable nature of which one is 'better', I have a feeling duel-players will be the real winner here. The movie industry will be segmenting themselves.

      I'm not interested in either. Regular DVD's are fine. But I also do not have the money to buy a nice flat-screen 1080p TV, own a PS3 or Xbox 360, and have a killer 7.1 speaker system. Hooking up a HD format to my current setup will give me the same result as a DVD.

      Maybe 5 years from now, I'll have the disposable income and the prices will be much lower to actually have a killer setup. I'm interested in HD setups, as I like my "tech-toys", but I'm also a penny pincher and I can wait a few years and save $200 on a new player, that will probably be smaller and have more features.

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      Fozzy

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  4. Does this even matter? by EveryNickIsTaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Digital distribution is the way of the future, not Blu-Ray or HD DVD discs. Isn't netflix already selling movie downloads?

    1. Re:Does this even matter? by pl1ght · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I keep hearing this, but i know absolutely no one who is using the digital distribution for their home entertainment. While this would be popular for people watching movies on their computer, the majority of people watch movies on their TVs from the comfort of their couch. Its going to be a while off before appliances are in every home to take advantage of digital distribution. So the disc wars will continue for the foreseeable future.

    2. Re:Does this even matter? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone I know with an HDTV has some form of "On Demand" for getting HD movies... I don't know a single person who owns either an HD-DVD or BRD player.

      The cost of ownership is significantly lower too... pay your cable/satellite company $5 for the movie you want to see using the equipment you already have or buy a $500+ player and go to the store (or wait for delivery of) a rental + however much that costs.

      I see the HD-DVD vs BRD debate along the same lines as the DVD-Audio vs SACD debate... which format one that war? NEITHER the equipment was over priced, crippled by DRM and only a fraction of the market owned the supporting equipment to fully utilize it nevermind become actually interested in it.... who won that war? technically it still rages on but the real victor was the MP3 and other digitally distributed forms of music... far and wide technically inferior to the DVD-A and SACDs but it's pretty apparent that consumers go for convenience over quality... at least in terms of their media.

    3. Re:Does this even matter? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it's pretty apparent that consumers go for convenience over quality... at least in terms of their media.
      Right, because we must pick one over the other..
      Yes, sometimes you do. Obviously not all the time but sometimes that is a choice consumers have to make.

      If you're looking at portable media players you will never get the same quality out of those that is delivered by a SACD or DVD-A in a full high end surround sound setup... Not only is the music compressed way beyond what you'd get on SACD or DVD-A the equipment in that form factor just isn't capable of reproducing it in the same high quality you could get from an audiophile grade surround sound system... It doesn't matter how much money you spend on it.

      Take a look at phones, hard lines almost always offer better voice quality and reliability, but most people prefer the convenience of a cell phone to the point where there are a lot of people without a hardline anymore.

      Similarly with technology today any streamed HD content is going to be compressed more and probably in a lower (720p) resolution when compared to disc based media like HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

      Sometimes you can get convenience and quality like the move from VHS to DVD... but YES sometimes it is a choice of one over the other and looking at the choices consumers have made with new products in the past it seems to me that more often then not people will adopt the more convenient product, quality be damned.
  5. Wow, this is huge by llZENll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why on earth would they not just rent both? Its not like it costs them any money to rent another format. Dollars to donuts there is some behind the scenes payola or pressure going on here. I guess with all of their sales heading towards online rentals it probably doesn't matter, as they are still supporting it online.

    1. Re:Wow, this is huge by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Parser error: you used "wide selection" and "Blockbuster" in the same thought.
      Blockbuster only stocks "hits". And not for very long, at that.

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  6. Strong echoes with VHS/Betamax by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As I remember it, it was the rental market that killed off Betamax. Whatever you might think of them (and few have a lower opinion than I do) the rental market, and Blockbusters in particular, has a massive influence. You can just see the average clueless consumer saying 'Why get HD DVD when Blockies only stocks Blu Ray'

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    1. Re:Strong echoes with VHS/Betamax by fbjon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would that be clueless? Sounds pretty rational to me...

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  7. Re:BB online still has HDDVD by guidryp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    BB online will match netflix in that they will still have HDDVD, so how is this a win for netflix?

    Is netflix starting a chain of B&M rental outlets to compete with BB?

  8. DOH! ... or ... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "How to close the door after the horse has bolted." By the BlockBuster management

    The future ain't DVD, of any format. The future be network distributed content, no matter what the US film industry wants you to think.

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  9. Re:"We have no Blockbluster, you insensitive clod" by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think you should have seen the writing on the wall YEARS ago, if you live in Michigan.

  10. News That Doesn't Matter by LightPhoenix7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While this is somewhat interesting, the problem is that it doesn't matter at all. Neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray has managed to get any sort of decent penetration into the home market aside from enthusiasts. There are a couple of reasons for this.

    Firstly, there's price. I'm not just talking the price of players here, though that is a factor right now. The big thing is that the vast majority of people do not own televisions that will benefit from a higher-quality format. The cost of having a television that will benefit from this has to be added on to the startup cost, and that price hasn't seemed like it's gone down at all. Sure, you can get high-def 22" sets - but with a set that small, the difference between DVD and HD-format is pretty nullified. Again, only enthusiasts will notice a difference.

    Another big reason is customer fatigue. DVDs have only relatively recently obtained high penetration in the home market - in no part thanks to cheap players from Walmart and other discount stores. Now customers are being asked once again to spend money to upgrade their collections... and as I said above, the startup price is not trivial for marginal improvement in quality. No, there are no MPAA-Nazis... oh, there are. My point is, no one is forcing them to upgrade - but on the other hand, the mass amount of customers just don't care.

    Another thing I might point out is that the major indicator of trends - the porn industry - hasn't chosen a format yet. In fact, they're pretty much eschewing physical media for the internet. So, were I to be a betting man, I'd say that an online format is going to be the next big thing - and we're already seeing that with sites like YouTube.

    So, in the long run, this isn't really news at all, this is just a blip on the radar.

  11. Re:Another Layer of DRM by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reason that nobody has broken BD+ DRM is because the studios haven't started using it. As soon as they start using it, people will find a crack. Can you please tell me what makes BD+ DRM so special that hackers won't be able to break it? Given enough demand, any DRM system can be broken.

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  12. Re:"We have no Blockbluster, you insensitive clod" by illegalcortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I think it sucks when chain stores drive out local businesses, I'm not sure how this would have been different in the long run. If BB can't survive with its much lower overhead and cash reserve to get it through rough patches, what makes you think several mom and pop video stores would?

  13. Re:They should stock both but... by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Naa, it's not really logical at all. The PS2 was released in 2000. The PS3 was released six years later, and it shares almost none of the same components (the only shared components are the chips in the PS3 to allow PS1/2 games to play.) It's an entirely new machine.

    To be skeptical of the PS3 because of this issue, you'd also have to be skeptical of any other CD or DVD player on the market since and until the PS3 was released.

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  14. Re:You can prefer one on a rational basis by idlethought · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, we'd get to keep DVD for several years while the next-next-gen media gets its act together. Which would suit me fine - and many people who won't benefit noticeably from the higher-resolutions of the two formats, but will be charged more for them.

  15. Re:"We have no Blockbluster, you insensitive clod" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Because we all know the Fat American retirees living in the Rust Belt just LOVE indie movies and anime!

  16. Re:You can prefer one on a rational basis by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "I hate Sony/BMG, therefore I will boycott all of Sony (even though the connections between various divisions of such a large company are extremely slim)."

    Are you paid by Sony and/or BMG? Because otherwise I cannot understand your extremely specious reasoning.

    Corporations are entities that we are asked to treat [legally, and only more or less, but bear with me] as people. They are single entities, even when made up of other entities. And in fact all of them are, because they are made up of multiple people.

    Now, you don't seem to think that blaming a corporation is wrong, just blaming Sony overall. But what is so different about blaming sony corporate instead of sony music, from blaming sony music instead of the people at sony music that make the bad decisions and implement them? Answer: fucking nothing. There is no difference.

    Thus, if it is reasonable to blame sony music for the rootkit, and not the specific individuals responsible, then it is reasonable to blame sony corporate for the misdeeds of its child companies.

    The thing that allows corporations to abuse their position is a lack of accountability, and here you are, making the biggest contribution to that lack possible: you're contributing your mindshare to the idea of that lack.

    Finally, it is completely rational to boycott all Sony products because of the actions of one subsidiary, because each individual company would have less power in the marketplace if not for being part of a conglomerate.

    Calling people fanboys for boycotting companies for their misdeeds is wrongheaded, to say the least. Stop being part of the problem!

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  17. Food for thought by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Blockbuster chose Blu-Ray. Porn chose HDDVD. Blockbuster is becoming incresingly irrelevant and is (IMO) heading straight for bankruptcy. Porn isn't. How has this choice "won" the battle?

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  18. Re:Betting on a loser. by *weasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, Blockbuster still 'offers' all those old faults that drove us into the arms of Netflix in the first place.

    I must be odd - I don't find the process of driving to the video store, shuffling through the poor selection, finding something that's actually in stock and waiting in line to check out and driving home all that appealing.

    I suppose they're still relevant in much the same way Blu-ray vs HD-DVD is relevant.
    Other people might see value there - but all I see are the limitations that far outweigh the benefits.

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  19. Re:This is so sad ... by mitchell_pgh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are the minority.

    Most consumers are either rent or purchase their movies. The concept of a DVD player is now ubiquitous in the consumer culture. I consider myself to be VERY computer literate, but I can see major hurdles with trying to toss a 50GB movie file around a home network. Better yet, how would I permit a friend to watch the movie?

    I can walk into a Best Buy and pick up 250 GB of movies (I'm generalizing), go home and watch them, sell them, trade them, lend them to friends, etc. etc.

    The disk is still a very efficient method of distributing film. (P.S. Most music is still sold on disks as well...)