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Best Places To Work In IT

jcatcw writes "Computerworld's annual summary of the best places to work in IT lists companies that excel in five areas of employment: career development, retention, benefits, diversity, and training. According to the scorecard, the top five retention methods are: competitive benefits; competitive salaries; work/life balance; flexible work hours; and tuition reimbursement. Of the top 100 companies, 64 expect the number of U.S.-based IT staffers to increase in 2007, on average by 7%. Here is the whole list. The top three are Quicken Loans, University of Miami, and Sharp HealthCare."

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  1. Do people take these seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My company is on the list, top 20 even, and I'm sorry but it's a joke. This is a miserable place to work, with most people answering these things positively because if they don't they get subjected to even worse "morale improvement" exercises.

    1. Re:Do people take these seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Since you posted your employer's name, why don't you share your name with us? :P just to confirm, you know..

      Sd,


      HR Mgr,

      Quicken Loans Inc

    2. Re:Do people take these seriously? by StarvingSE · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is truly another Survey of Dubious Quality (tm). If they wanted to take real measurements of retention and employee satisfaction, they would ask the top 1% of the talent at said companies. Why is Google, Microsoft, IBM, and all the other big players in the industry? Not a single one is on the list, yet they continue to attract, hire, and keep the best talent.

      There is no way job at Quicken Loans is better than Google or Microsoft by any stretch of the imagination.

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    3. Re:Do people take these seriously? by twiddlingbits · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you may not like the things they make but how does that invalidate they may have a Great IT department that people actually ENJOY working at? That's really really bad logic.

    4. Re:Do people take these seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can assure you that it was totally me.

      I swear...

  2. Somethings wrong... by egoproxy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was expecting to see Computerworld in that list.

  3. The list skews to larger corporations by hellfire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, I've always enjoyed in smaller companies, because the beauracracy is far less annoying and you can be more personable with the people in the company. They never really include those companies, because if they actually tried, they'd have thousands of companies to interview and it would take too much time. But if they really wanted a list that made sense they'd include smaller businesses. Expand the definition a little more and stop making such a big deal about being a huge corporation.

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  4. Quickenloans by z-man · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA:
    Why it's the best
    "Celebration galas at this online loan company are star-studded: Kid Rock performed at the 2006 holiday gala and The Black Eyed Peas were featured performers at the company's 20th anniversary party."

    Judging by that line-up of artists I wouldn't even want to work in an adjacent area!

  5. The 0th best place to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the beach, with my laptop, sipping a Corona, watching the babes.

    And then I woke up.

  6. Nothing on that list for me... by Tomy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe my standards are different, but the companies on that list don't seem very interesting.

    It reminds me many years ago ('97) when I and a coworker decided we had had enough of the company we were working for, and decided to make a top ten list of companies we wanted to work for. Both of us landed jobs with our number one choice, but our top ten lists were very different. Mine was a list of coolest companies to work for, and mostly startups (Cygnus Solutions being at the top of my list), and his were more "nicest" companies to work for (SAS being at the top of his list, they have a 35 hour work week, pianist in the cafeteria, gyms, etc).

    Perks are great and all, but if the work is not intellectually challenging, or just patience-challenging, and I'm not pushing the envelope, I'm going to be bored out of my skull and not improving my skills, which is a terrible way to spend almost one third of your life.

    Exactly what groundbreaking technologies are being developed at a loan website, besides finding new ways to get past my spam filters?

    1. Re:Nothing on that list for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only perk and benefit I want is more money. Don't try and distract me from shitty pay that has been artificially reduced by unfair injection into the workforce by foreign labor by paying me less and giving me a gym membership. Just give me more fucking money. I'm there to work. In exchange for money. It's not a fucking barter system and I'm not in kindergarten.

    2. Re:Nothing on that list for me... by Bucc5062 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      there comes a point where one discovers that a job is a means to an end, and not the means. I used to live for the next project, the cool new "thing". If you work in corporate USA that moment is so rare is is better to try for the lottery. Find somethng outside of work and life for that. Company X, the best place in the world to work, will can your ass the moment the numbers do not add up for keeping you.

      Start up a company and one day you'll experience the moment when you need to "downsize" and those that had the rose colored glasses will get them stripped off their eyes.

      I've spent 28 years in the IT industry, from mainframes, to minis, to Client Server, and what I have learned the most is that the love of a woman far outways a fucking promotion, the joy of doing something you enjoy far outways making the boss happy on Sunday fucking afternoon, that taking time for ones self has a better life expectancy then dieng a slow death for the fucking "Company".

      Best places to work for? I had two and they got sold, chewed up and turned into shit holes, so please stop thinking that dragging you're ass to a cube every day, even if they had piano playing in the lobby is going to bring some sort of satisfaction in life. Google is no better no worse then the sweat shop in china. They just give you shinier trinkets to distract you.

      Six months ago I rescued a horse from possible auction to slaughter. Today she is healthy, happy, and helping me learn to ride. The job helps me help her have a better life. That is more real, more a sense of accomplishment then pleasing some exec in an irovy tower. Piano bars, flex time, treats tossed from on high as our mouths hang open...slight of hand. To quote Mr Heston "Soylent green is Man"... Better to live outside of the job then think it will define you.

      There is not best place to work other then that which fills the soul, and makes us feel like we did goo that day. a janitor may be a king compared to most IT professionals.

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      Life is a great ride, the vehicle doesn't matter
  7. Re:Drug surveys by ushering05401 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They were for real. My ass was saved by a 2600 reader who knew I was into code.

    Your name was not required on the form, but the teachers issued specific instructions about how to hand the forms forward, but only *after* we had finished filling them out (my school had seating charts for every class). All of the forms were to be handed forward with the student in front placing their form on top of the student in back. Why should that have mattered if the results were to be anonymous?

    I thought I was fucked after I heard that. Then I got a whap on the back of the head in the hallway after class. It was the kid who sat in front of me. He called me a fuck-wad and told me he had scratched the shit out of my form.

    Other kids got expelled for telling the truth.

    After word got around they discontinued the surveys and just brought in drug sniffing dogs. Yes, I was in one of *those* school districts. Too much cash and too little brains.

    Regards.

  8. Really? by Wiarumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...top five retention methods are: competitive benefits; competitive salaries; work/life balance; flexible work hours; and tuition reimbursement"

    Free World of Warcraft gold is conspicuously missing from the list.

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  9. Re:Noticeably Absent... by Odo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work for Google, and I gotta tell you, it's a pain to have to research an answer and type up a page of results within 0.17 seconds of a user hitting the Search button. Someone help!