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Dell Refuses to Sell Ubuntu to Business

An anonymous reader writes "I had a surreal experience with Dell today. My boss asked me to order a new computer for our small, non-profit business. Wanting to support Dell in their decision to sell computers with Ubuntu installed, I decided to order one. First, I talked to a small business representative, who informed me that I could not order one of the Ubuntu-based computers through the small business department. I had to go through the "home and home office" department. I called the Home office department. I asked the representative if I could buy one of the ubuntu computers for my company. She said (and I quote), "these Dell computers are designed for personal use only, as long as you use it for personal use, you can purchase one." So I lied and said I would.... Next, I tried to buy it on our business credit card. They would have none of that. She told me that I had to buy it through a personal card. Now, as a non-profit, our business does not pay sales tax (10% in Tennessee). Had I bought it with my own card, I would have had to pay tax (~$90), which my company would not have reimbursed me for. So.....no Dell today."

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  1. Buy the old school Open Source systems by thebdj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dell has been selling systems through the business end with FreeDos for a while now. Purchase one of those and install Ubuntu yourself. It really isn't that hard and you can actually customize the install to what components you actually need. Or you could purchase one and install any free distro you want.

    I can list the millions of reasons why they only want to sell it as "personal use". Remember, Dell (and any other PC company) is still a business designed to make money and if they cannot please everyone all of the time, oh well.

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    1. Re:Buy the old school Open Source systems by walt-sjc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Furthermore, Dell business support and consumer support are TOTALLY different groups. It's quite probably that the business group has no ability (training, etc.) to support Ubuntu boxes.

  2. And you quit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Umm, and you didn't hang up and call them back and get another salesperson who doesn't give a crap?

    Thats the tactic I use. You always run into stubborn people in the service industry, but 9 times out of 10, the next person you reach won't care either way and will process your transaction just fine.

  3. Re:So... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    LinuxCertified sells laptops with various Linux distros preloaded and fully supported.

  4. System76 by ciroknight · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://system76.com/ Great laptops, reasonable prices, Ubuntu ships on the beasts. What more could you ask for?

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    1. Re:System76 by nomadic · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://system76.com/ Great laptops, reasonable prices, Ubuntu ships on the beasts. What more could you ask for?

      I tried configuring a computer on system76 and Dell, and when you put together comparable machines, the system76 one is several hundred dollars more expensive.

  5. Re:GPL infringement? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Nice Try. But Dell's not just selling you Ubuntu, its also selling you the computer on which you're running it. And they *can* place additional restrictions on the hardware."

    No they can't. It has nothing to do with the gpl, and everything to do with consumer protection laws (even business purchases are covered in many jurisdictions by the implied warranty of fitness for use). Unless the hardware comes with a per-seat or per-user license, which is not the case here, they cannot tell you how to use it. All they can do is refuse warranty support if its been abused. That is their SOLE option/recourse.

    Buy the damn thing and get a refund on the Windows license. The instructions have been posted on the net, including here on slashdot, often enough ... (and tag another $100 onto your claim, for wasted time, since they refused to sell you one without a Windows license, and take them to small claims court for the extra $100).

  6. GPL = no commercial use by mi · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know, the subject is simply not true. But this the perception out there nonetheless...

    She said (and I quote), "these Dell computers are designed for personal use only, as long as you use it for personal use, you can purchase one."

    My recent surreal experience went like that (talking to sysadmins in a giant financial company, with thousands of Unix-servers):

    • Hi, can we, please, have the OpenSSH package added to our Solaris 8 boxes?
    • No, not OpenSSH — we can put Foo SSH for you, we have a site-wide license for that.
    • Yeah, but the newer Solaris 10 machines come with OpenSSH, and Foo has some minor incompatibilities with it (scp does not work right)...
    • Sorry, OpenSSH is GPL-ed, and so we can not use it here .
    • What? That's double untrue — OpenSSH is BSD-licensed, and even if it were GPLed, there is nothing preventing us from using it — only if we were to modify it, would we run into any license provisions!
    • Sorry, that's our department's view — talk to such and such... We can disable OpenSSH on the Solaris 10 boxes for you, and install Foo SSH there, if you need the compatibility...

    How do you like that?

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  7. Re:Probably Red-Tape by pboyd2004 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You really don't seem to know what your talking about. Redhat is SOLD by Dell on all of their server models. And I happen to know that they support both hardware and some software issues with Redhat as your OS. They even create alot of driver update packages and other support things for Redhat and SLES on servers.