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Judge Deals Blow to RIAA

jcgam69 writes "A federal judge in New Mexico has put the brakes on the RIAA's lawsuit train, at least in the US District Court for New Mexico. The case in question is part of the RIAA's campaign against file-sharing on college campuses and names "Does 1-16," who allegedly engaged in copyright infringement using the University of New Mexico's network. In a ruling issued last month but disclosed today by file-sharing attorney Ray Beckerman, Judge Lorenzo F. Garcia denied the RIAA's motion to engage in discovery. This means that the RIAA will not be able to easily get subpoenas to obtain identifying information from the University."

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  1. Re:Yeah well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yes we did. Over 20% of the country has done the exact same thing to date.

  2. why a blow to RIAA? by siddesu · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't a blow for RIAA in any way. This is a win for a fairer usage of legal system to punish copyright offenders.

    The issue in question is the abuse of the discovery process by the MAFIAA -- they use subpoenas to get identities without the people involved knowing about it; they then then proceed to racket the people directly by offering them a 'cheap' settlement without giving the people a chance to mount defense.

    The ruling only says that MAFIAA has to work out a process with the university to allow people to contest the subpoenas before their identities are revealed. This seems only fair, and it is not a blow, but a remedy instead.

    If someone is caught violating the law, defend themselves, lose and are found guilty -- or decide to settle out -- things still work as intended, only they get a chance to be informed and contest charges.

    Of course and as usual, the MAFIAA has the audacity to say informing people about the subpoenas is doing 'irreparable harm' to them. Yep, sure it does, since it would require them pony up some proof instead of racket.

    To which the judge notes that RIAA will not suffer 'irreparable harm' because of that, since if they can produce proof they can still sue for damages and collect.

    So, i don't see any victims in this ruling.

  3. Re:6th Amendment by teebob21 · · Score: 2, Informative
    The 6th Amendment:

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense. The RIAA is filing in civil courts on their own behalf, for financial satisfaction in the matter of copyright infringement. It is constitutional for the defendants to never know the true identity of the accuser in a civil matter. For example, my alma mater high school district was sued on behalf of a current student by the ALCU after the district did not stop a parent from reciting the Lord's Prayer at graduation. Neither the district nor student body knew who the plaintiff was.

    IANAL, but the 6th Amendment protection is meant to protect citizens from being prosecuted by the State for criminal action. When and if the RIAA decides to bring criminal charges, rather than suing in civil court, the 6th Amendment will apply to all the John Does.
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  4. Re:Yeah well... by xdotx · · Score: 5, Informative

    California legalized pot


    No, they did not.
    California decriminalized pot, it it still illegal. Cannabis is still a Federal schedule I controlled substance.


    " Typically, decriminalization means no prison time or criminal record for first-time possession of a small amount for personal consumption. The conduct is treated like a minor traffic violation." - www.norml.org

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  5. Re:Or, everyone could stop breaking the law too. . by DMalic · · Score: 4, Informative

    The RIAA is not the government. They do not dole out authority; we, the consumer, do. I am perfectly willing to pay for my music. I will not, however, pay the RIAA. The fewer artists who sign to the RIAA, the more artists go independent, which leaves more artists I can buy music from and feel good about it. When I buy music from these artists, I know they're getting money. I know I'm paying the money to a free man or woman, not one who sold their life into indentured servitude. I know they're making more then 2% of the money I pay them, I know they're not driving down other independent artists with legal action. As a consumer, I don't care whether they like the way I behave. If I do something illegal, I would, in fact, expect the law to be enforced. There is nothing, however, which forces a false choice of "buy RIAA, never listen to music, or commit copyright infringement." The RIAA is not the only organization which deals in music, as much as they'd like to be. Have you ever seen http://wwww.magnatune.com/ or http://www.emusic.com? Many independent artists are even sold on Amazon! Payola, questionable lobbying regarding copyright extension, and illegitimate tactics regarding lawsuits (including the prosecution of those who were either known (or should have been known) known to be not guilty along with those suspected to be) make the RIAA the problem, not the solution.

  6. Re:It'll be interesting to see by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I imagine that they'll probably appeal until they get their way.... They can't appeal; it's not an appealable order.
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  7. Re:Curious phrasing by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was an ex parte motion.... i.e. no one other than the RIAA knew of its existence.

    The judge rejected it, realizing that there was no reason in the world for the motion to be ex parte rather than on notice.

    I.e., the judge was looking out for people who weren't even aware the case was going on... he was doing exactly what a judge is supposed to be doing in such a situation.

    Since the judge ordered the RIAA to confer with the University of New Mexico, that's how the order came to their attention.

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  8. Re:Well, it's a start by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's nice to see a judge applying some common sense to these RIAA fishing expeditions. You know what would be nicer? If the universities showed some spine. Something along the lines of: "Our students pay $x thousand per year to attend our institution. They entrust us with their future, their physical well-being, and every single piece of personal information they have. We have an obligation not to allow every scum-sucker who wants a piece of them to abuse that unique relationship." (As a public institution, UNM could also add something like, "The citizens of the great state of New Mexico do not allocate a substantial portion of their money to us so that ..." etc.) Honestly, if universities didn't knuckle under as easily as they do, most of these cases would probably never make it to court -- or if they did, it would be the RIAA vs. universities instead of individual students, which would at least be something closer to a fair fight. Daniel, you are absolutely right that the universities need to show some spine.

    But I have a hunch that the University of New Mexico is doing just that.
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  9. Re:Big *yawn* by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something about this has always amazed me. The only possible way that a screenshot could be obtained is by one of the following ways:
    1. Illegal trespassing upon a computer system ("hacking" or "cracking")
    2. Doctoring the screenshot
    So how is it that this "evidence" is even allowed?


    You missed:

    3. Public file sharing.

  10. Re:Big *yawn* by fredklein · · Score: 3, Informative

    And YOU missed:

    Photoshop.

    I can whip up a 'screenshot' showing an IP at RIAA headquarters looking at kiddy porn on a few hours. It's absolutely crazy that a printout of an alledged screenshot can stand as evidence on Court.