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Judge Deals Blow to RIAA

jcgam69 writes "A federal judge in New Mexico has put the brakes on the RIAA's lawsuit train, at least in the US District Court for New Mexico. The case in question is part of the RIAA's campaign against file-sharing on college campuses and names "Does 1-16," who allegedly engaged in copyright infringement using the University of New Mexico's network. In a ruling issued last month but disclosed today by file-sharing attorney Ray Beckerman, Judge Lorenzo F. Garcia denied the RIAA's motion to engage in discovery. This means that the RIAA will not be able to easily get subpoenas to obtain identifying information from the University."

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  1. Re:Yeah well... by geekoid · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    OK, I am going to call this one:
    irregardless is not a word..or at best a nonsense word. You look uneducated when you use it.
    I am pretty liberal, but man I can't end this sentence. The word you want was "regardless"

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  2. On topic post by geekoid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It would really be nice is the states made the feds prove the pot in question crossed state lines. If not, it's not a federal issue. irregardless* of what I think, the states pretty much roll over for the feds.

    * I kid.

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    1. Re:On topic post by bberens · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Unfortunately the product doesn't have to actually cross the state border in order to affect inter-state commerce. At least that's the current legal standing based on Supreme Court rulings.

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  3. Re:Yeah well... by RobertM1968 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    irregardless - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ir-i-gahrd-lis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

    -adverb Nonstandard.

    regardless.

    [Origin: 1910-15; ir-2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless]

    --Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.

    Non-standard but accepted as a word for quite some time due to almost a century of usage.

  4. Re:Yeah well... by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    "nonstandard" also applies to the word "ain't" which your source states is used by the uneducated.

    Regardless, you failed to quote the rest of the citation from dictionary.com:


    Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

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  5. Re:Yeah well... by mlarios · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just say "Irregardless? That's not even a real word. You're affixing the negative prefix 'irr-' to 'regardless', but, as 'regardless' is already negative, it's a logical absurdity!"

  6. Re:Instead of lawsuits by crawly · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Dugg Down for wailing on my main man "Disco Duck".

    (And yes I know this isn't digg)

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  7. Re:Yeah well... by ehrichweiss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wikipedia, regardless of its apparent usefulness on geeky and interesting subjects, is not something I'd risk my career on its trustworthiness. While I'm sure all sorts of dictionaries are lowering their standards, the fact that "ain't" hasn't made it out of the "non-standard" class even after, what, 500 years of use speaks volumes, redundant volumes, of those who use or accept "irregardless" as anything more than a nonsensical word. Fnord.

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  8. Re:Yeah well... by ehrichweiss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That was YOU!?!?!? You jerk!!!!


    No seriously, these days I've found it's much easier to do your best to mod positively, otherwise you spend far too much energy pointing out the negative things. I'll still point out a lot of negative things but at least I search for insightful, interesting or funny comments first before I look for Mac fanboys who need to be brought down a notch or two. ;)

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  9. Re:Yeah well... by janrinok · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How do you estimate the '500 years' of use? The usage is typically American, and America was founded when? I do not believe that the native Americans used it, and its current usage in Europe is as a result of the influence of TV over recent decades.

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  10. Re:Yeah well... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Lazy shortcuts are one thing.. the language is full of them.

    Making a word *longer* by adding redundant letters in front of it is just insane. What's wrong with regardless? Why add 'ir' onto the front for no apparent reason?

    As for its use becoming commonplace.. well on Slashdot maybe.. but Slashdot seems to be a world unto itself. I've never seen or heard of that usage outside this site. (Wikipedia doesn't count.. that's even less of a reliable source than slashdot, and that's saying something). Websters and the OED both consider it an abberation.

  11. Re:Yeah well... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The earliest written reference to ain't is 1778, so that's nearly 230 years of its use... It's not american it derives from cockney (London) speech in Dickens (there's an earlier form an't that dates back to 1706).

  12. Re:Yeah well... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just like using flammable instead of inflammable and toxic instead of ittoxic. Like Strunk & White says, this should only be done to protect "idiots and children".

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