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Take Two Shelves Manhunt 2

If you've been following this story so far, it shouldn't come as a shock that Take-Two has shelved Manhunt 2 for the moment, while they decide what to do next. The company is considering its options, and still fully supports the game as a 'work of art'. "Take-Two Interactive Software has temporarily suspended plans to distribute Manhunt 2 for the Wii or PlayStation platforms while it reviews its options with regard to the recent decisions made by the British Board of Film Classification and Entertainment Software Rating Board ... We continue to stand behind this extraordinary game. We believe in freedom of creative expression, as well as responsible marketing, both of which are essential to our business of making great entertainment." Analysts have already started weighing in, with some seeing this as unfairly targeting the GTA-maker for previous 'sins'.

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  1. Re:loss by VJ42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If Take-Two makes the smart choice, it will be to sell the game themselves. Unfortunately both Sony and Nintendo have declined to licence it, so they can't do that.
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  2. Re:XBox 360 by RonnyJ · · Score: 2, Informative
    According to this article, Microsoft don't allow AO games on the Xbox/Xbox 360 either.

    Though Manhunt 2 isn't slated for any of Microsoft's systems, the company has also confirmed that it does not allow AO-rated titles on the Xbox or Xbox 360.

  3. Re:Yeah...so? by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem is that it's illegal for them to release it. Both Sony and Nintendo require that all gamees released on their platforms be approved by them (it's part of the contract a developer must sign to get a dev kit). In some countries it's even more illegal because selling an unrated game is prohibited.

    All I really have to say is "Ha, Ha! That's what you get for developing for a proprietary platform".

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  4. Do somthing about it by Tainek · · Score: 4, Informative

    If your British, let the goverment know, right here : http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/videogames/

    England Prevails!

  5. Re:XBox 360 by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Informative

    none of the system makers allow AO games, Microsoft included.

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  6. Re:You are missing the DRM aspect of this... by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can't use it period, at least so far. The DRM for this generation's consoles hasn't been effectively broken yet. It has been worked around from the piracy standpoint, but you still can't run unsigned code. Modchips don't help.

    It's a shame that (almost) the entire console industry consists of closed systems (and this generation it looks increasingly complex to crack). I was hoping that this generation I'd be able to form part of the homebrew community, but it looks like it isn't going to happen anytime soon. Anyone willing to form an *open* team dedicated to opening up the Wii? I'm sure there are ways, but if either no one tries or those who do keep their findings to themselves, nothing gets done.

  7. There's a fine line between M and AO by bakura121 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here are the definitions of M and AO from the ESRB Ratings Guide:

    "MATURE Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language."

    "ADULTS ONLY Titles rated AO (Adults Only) have content that should only be played by persons 18 years and older. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity."


    I find it hard to believe that this game could not be classified as an M rated game. Both games require you to be at least 17 years old (18 in the case of AO). I highly doubt this game has "graphic sexual content", so it all comes down to whether the violence is "intense violence", or "prolonged scenes of intense violence".

    The rating system is really not very well thought out. There should be some kind of process to appeal the decision and have it re-reviewed by a different group.

    Come on... IT'S A GAME! They need to lighten up. I probably wouldn't want my kids playing this game, but if it's rated M then that means that you have to be 17 to play it anyways. Hold the stores responsible for upholding that responsibility, just as movie theaters are responsible for upholding the movie ratings by not allowing minors in to see R rated movies.

    And for all those articles that talk about the game not being for 'families'.... those people need to get a life. Nobody is trying to claim that 'Manhunt 2' is a 'family friendly' game. It's a game for adults, and it should be available for adults to purchase. I hate it when other people decide what is best for me.

  8. So, seriously... by Dave+Parrish · · Score: 3, Informative

    What is everyone so upset about? Half of the comments on here are either anti-ESRB or anti-USA. Why?

    Last I checked, the US hadn't banned the game. So there's no reason for that.

    And the ESRB didn't ban it, either. The ESRB's website says a game gets an AO is it has "prolonged scenes of intense violence," and, from my understanding, if you "charge up" (presumably hold a button or something) for a kill, it will take longer to do (it will be more complex, or brutal). In other words, it will be PROLONGED.

    If you have hostility for this game not being released, blame either Nintendo, Sony, or the countries that are banning it. The ESRB rated the game appropriately and were not directly involved in it not hitting shelves.

  9. Re:Dear Zonk by emtilt · · Score: 2, Informative

    The British Board of Film Classification, the ESRB, and the MPAA -- none are government agencies. So no, it doesn't have to do with free speech. This is especially true in the US, where retailers have the right to determine what they wish to sell. And they've exercised they exercised their right when they decided to sell ESRB rated games.
    While it is true that the BBFC is not a government agency, it effectively has some legal power that can prevent films and games from being legally distributed or sold, so it does have to do with free speech. If they do not certify Manhunt, it will not be legal to sell it in the UK (though it will be legal to own). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Board_of_Film _Classification
  10. Thrill Kill, anyone? by NorQue · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm surprised you people are so upset about Manhunt 2 being canned. Anyone remembers Thrill Kill? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrill_Kill ? Same old, same old... and I bet a lot of you people played it anyways. Anyone wants to bet when Manhunt 2 hits the internet, should it *really* not be published? You'll all be playing it by the end of this year, most likely.