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Wireless Networks Causing Headaches For Businesses

ElvaWSJ writes "Wi-Fi was supposed to reduce complications, not create new ones. But in many offices Wi-Fi has been a headache. Like all radio signals, Wi-Fi is subject to interference. Its low power — less than even a typical cellphone — means that walls and cabinets can significantly reduce signal strength. Wi-Fi also creates networks that are more open than wired ones, raising security issues. And Wi-Fi has caused problems for virtual private networks. Some VPNs require a lot of processing power. If a wireless access point — at home, at the office, or on the road — isn't robust enough, a user often gets bumped off the connection."

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  1. Um... by cromar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Duh?

    1. Re:Um... by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Was that a tag, or a comment? Either way, it fits.

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    2. Re:Um... by YouTookMyStapler · · Score: 2, Informative
      It really shouldn't be a surprise that a wi-fi signal gets weaker as you move away from the source. This would be the same as people saying "I had no idea that the further away from a cell tower you get the weaker the reception."

      "It was almost like if you wanted to have remote access, you'd better expect to not have a good experience," says Mr. Friemann, 38 years old, who is based in Cherry Hill, N.J.


      Some people are just so negative.
    3. Re:Um... by The_Quinn · · Score: 2, Informative
      This is one of the reasons I am greatly anticipating Sprint's new WIMAX wireless broadband network.

      I think it will be one of those breakthroughs where you won't even realize how cool it is until you start seeing people wandering around with wireless devices that "just work", anywhere, without much thought of how or why.

    4. Re:Um... by SenFo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A while back, I thought this was general knowledge. What I found is that people get caught up in all the hype and think only of the positives. If you try to persuade them otherwise, you're ostracized.

      A few years ago, I was tasked with setting up the network in a new building. There was already wiring in the building. Unfortunately, it was all CAT-3 (even the data lines). I was the only person on staff in the IT department so I asked if we could hire an outside consultant to help with the task of running new network lines that would be adequate for our company needs. My request was rejected and I was instructed to install WiFi for the entire company to run on (about 50 people, including sub-tenants, which shared the LAN for Internet access). I advised my company of the pitfalls involved with running a WiFi-only LAN; however, I was told I needed to "come into the 21st century". Not feeling as though it was reason enough to quit on the spot, I did as I was told and installed the wireless network. With the exception of my workstation and all of the servers, everybody connected to the LAN through a wireless access point. Within the first few hours of operation, I had already gotten a number of complaints about systems loosing connectivity to the servers. This became the norm as my days soon involved at least one reset of the access point at some point in the day. This lasted about a year and a half before my direct manager was walking over to my desk to ask me if I could reset the access point. To her surprise, I was sitting there working and still connected to the LAN. She asked me how that was possible and I explained to her that I was on a wired connection. The next thing I knew, I was installing CAT-5e throughout the entire building. In the end, it cost a lot of money in lost productivity, as well as the wireless hardware that barely gets used. Reasons like this are why I abandoned the system administrator world a few years ago in favor of becoming a software engineer. I have never looked back.

  2. Well Then... by AdmNaismith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make sure there are some bloody data ports where they are useful. The gods know how many office conference rooms I have walked into where there are two power/data/phone outlets on the far ends of the room behind heavy credenzas, instead of in the middle of the room accessible from the table top. Otherwise just blanket the place with WiFi and suck it up.

    1. Re:Well Then... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having talked with a few guys in my neck of the woods that sell themselves as network architects, I have the feeling that most of these guys really don't have the vaguest idea how to properly plan and roll out a network. They're too lazy, or their bosses are too cheap, to put in, maintain and extend a decent wired network, and so buy into the idea that going out and buying some NetGear routers and access points will mean everything is hunky dorey. Then, as the months roll by, and people have an increasing number of problems both with security and with basic access, the whole pile of steaming crap starts to unravel.

      To my mind anyone who comes up to me and says "Our network has problems, and I can't keep my VPN up because they put in a new partition walli n accounting" is pretty much stating that whoever it is that maintains and plans their network ought to be forceably removed from the building.

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    2. Re:Well Then... by mrbooze · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At my company we kept having whole networks on some office floors go down periodically. Supposedly, the problem was tracked down to the switches they had sitting in conference rooms. Apparently, if someone for some reason plugged a cable from one port directly into another port, this caused that whole vlan to become unusable. (Why would someone do that? Apparently, some people are stupid.)

      The response was to remove all switches/hubs from conference rooms. When it was suggested that we just put up signs that say "Don't do that" that idea was shot down because then people would *know* how to bring the network down and could do it maliciously.

      The whole thing made no sense to me, that a network could be *that* fragile, but the network team was reluctant to explain details, and the end result was never enough network ports in conference rooms.

    3. Re:Well Then... by jacksonj04 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We've recently had a lot of thought put into upgrading our school network as part of a multi-million refit. Some smartass thought it'd be clever to say "We want everything wireless". It was gonna be as well, until all the IT techs looked at the plans and basically said "If you do that, we're resigning".

      Result - every permanent terminal (ie in the ICT rooms, PCs which drive the virtual whiteboards etc) is hardwired, and each classroom has its own AP to allow for portable devices. Some rooms like the art classrooms - which are frequently subject to 30(ish) tablet PCs in use at once, will have two. The whole thing is held together by a swine of a network architecture, which involves routers all over the place. It's going to be great fun

      The original smartass now isn't let near the plans.

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  3. Surprising! by gen0c1de · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not really, if you are a business that is deploying wifi as a solution to allow laptop users to move around fine, however if it is cheap solution to installing hard wired cables to each desk then someone needs to be re-informed about the pitfalls.

    1. Re:Surprising! by gen0c1de · · Score: 2, Informative

      It sounds like the people she works for don't understand technology and just don't like wires, and to top it off i bet you they are the same people that go and by the 39.99 Netgear wifi router for there office solution. There are a lot of business owners like that so it doesn't really surprise me, and it shouldn't come down on the person head that actually installed the stuff as they may not have had any say in the decision.

  4. Supplement not Replacement by jeffy210 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wifi should be a supplement for larger areas with changing configurations (meeting rooms, conference rooms, etc) not as a replacement for a typical wired setup. Unless you plan on constantly rearranging your cubes, there's no reason to do that. Also you should think of the two networks as being completely separate and treat the wireless network as a public access point (i.e. force VPN access to the wired portion of your network).

    I see the problem coming in where people think it's a wired replacement.

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    1. Re:Supplement not Replacement by The-Ixian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, that is exactly how I have it set up here. I cringe every time I go into a new client site and see them using OPEN wireless access points as an extension of their wired LAN. At the very least encrypt it....

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    2. Re:Supplement not Replacement by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yep, that is exactly how I have it set up here. I cringe every time I go into a new client site and see them using OPEN wireless access points as an extension of their wired LAN. At the very least encrypt it....

      There's no good reason to use encryption in a corporate environment. Put all the wireless APs in the DMZ, so that they're outside the network, and leave the APs open. That way you don't have to make users screw around trying to get WEP/WPA/whatever to work, or use crummy MAC-based authentication schemes (that are a steaming pile anyway; whoever decided authentication based on MAC addresses was a good idea should be shot). Until you do that, wireless security is (in my experience anyway) harmful, because it makes the PHBs think they're on a "secure network" and shouldn't have to VPN. And once you require everyone to VPN when they use wireless, there's no point in using WEP/WPA on top of it (particularly considering that WEP is so broken as to be useless, and lots of devices don't support WPA).

      The problem isn't lack of encryption, it's putting wireless APs in on the trusted side of the network at all. Avoid doing that, and treat someone connecting from an AP just like you'd treat someone connecting from Kalamazoo (meaning they have to connect via a VPN and authenticate), and you avoid most of the security vulnerabilities that plague wireless installs.

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    3. Re:Supplement not Replacement by julesh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wifi should be a supplement for larger areas with changing configurations (meeting rooms, conference rooms, etc) not as a replacement for a typical wired setup. Unless you plan on constantly rearranging your cubes, there's no reason to do that.

      Except cash. Installing cabling can be quite expensive. A 5 person office could easily cost £500 to cable up, including health & safety inspections (which may or may not be mandatory depending on your locality, but are almost always a good idea when installing cables around employees). Wireless networking hardware for that same office might come in at £300. Savings almost certainly scale up with larger offices.

      There are other reasons, too... I visited an IBM office a few years back where the employees were expected to "hot desk": they didn't have an assigned place to work, and when turning up just found a free desk anywhere and hooked in to the wireless network. They had a mobile phone base unit, so their mobile phones turned into office phones while they were in the building, etc. Management ensured there were slightly fewer convenient places to work than there were employees in the building on an average day -- encourages people to turn up early.

    4. Re:Supplement not Replacement by wperry1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This may be a good way to protect your servers and other internal systems but without encryption enabled you still allow anyone to hop on your WiFi and attempt to hack your clients.

  5. low power -- less than even a typical cellphone by niceone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good thing it doesn't have to work over as great a distance as a cell phone then. It's almost as it it was designed that way!

  6. Metal objects block radio by also-rr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    News at 11.

    I used to do wireless mesh network algorythm development and we had (with 802.11b) acceptable, AES encrypted, coverage of a motor factory (think *lots* of wire and EM) with nodes running on 200mhz arm systems and 64mb of ram. No problems with VOIP either. You just need to do some (ok, expensive) system design and there's no reason why it wont work. In the demo system the nodes updated their routing tables using a ropey bash script even :)

    Expecting that off the shelf gear can magically set itself up is the problem, not the protocol itself (which can be worked around in many interesting ways).

  7. Re:I've always heard... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    it takes more wire to set up a good wireless network than it does to set up a wired network.

    It still might be cheaper, because in many (most?) cases you pay per drop and not per foot. If you're paying for both, it still might come out cheaper.

    Of course, as you probably^Walmost certainly know already, WiFi is a better fit for edge conditions than it is for every computer in your network (even if you don't count servers.)

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  8. Re:Transmitter power by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    lets see poor transmitter power output, integrated 1/8th wave PCB antennas, microwave frequencies, $3 of electronics
    gee i wonder why its crap ? 1) To keep the cost down. Even 'commercial-grade' access points use inexpensive components to help keep the costs down to the point that people can afford them. Compare the cost of ham radio -- and then consider if you would buy a WAP that had that amount tacked on the sale price.

    2) Government regulation. Governments around the world regulate these 2.4 GHz-range frequencies and given the number of devices in the range, transmitter power is kept necessarily low by regulation.

    3) To keep the equipment from interfering with other devices such as cellphones, 2.4Ghz-range walkie talkies, and countless other devices that use this frequency range. See #2.

  9. Re:drivers by quanticle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oddly enough, with D-Link cards I've noticed that the third party connection software (D-Link Connection Manager) often works better than the Windows wireless network manager.

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  10. Corporate Solution by TheMadcapZ · · Score: 2, Funny

    At some point companies may wrap the exterior of the building with Faraday mesh to prevent radio signals from exiting the building with any significant range. External radio signals could be ported and broadcast within the building similar to the project to extend radio station signals into road tunnels as test in Pittsburgh, Pa. This would allow the company to control the signals that enter and exit the building while also allowing for cellphones and radios to work.

    Now the cost to benefit ratio of such a system would most likely kills the idea unless the security of the network was highly valued.

  11. Re:This caught my eye, lets try formatting ;) by N3WBI3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Things got so bad that Mr. Friemann sometimes had employees piggyback on a neighboring business's wireless connection that was more stable -- without the other business's consent or knowledge."

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    Ok so your neighbor could set up a network which worked fine even for you whom, presumably, are further away from his source than you are from your own. Despite this its somehow the technologies fault? WiFi is fine, established, and mature this admins understanding of it is not.

    and then there is this

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    "Some wireless networking companies are taking steps to try to deal with customers' problems. One major issue is the stability of the wireless signal. Ruckus Wireless Inc., a wireless networking company based in Sunnyvale, Calif., tries to address that problem by providing wireless access points that have multiple antennas. That allows a Wi-Fi signal to have more than one pathway to an access point -- which can come in handy if something is in the way."

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    Its called a cable folks, there are plenty of ways to rig antennas and get them in existing wap points. Thats not to say there is no value in what Ruckus is doing just that its not like we cant do that.

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  12. Site survey by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Before rolling out a big business wireless network, the installers should do a check of existing interference, then setup a simple access point/client and check it out in different places using a spectrum analyzer. Just like cable techs sometimes need a cat-5 analyser to trouble wiring plant problems, the wireless tech needs an instrument to measure the rf environment.

    Heck, my wireless pda loses signal while standing near the microwave popping pop corn. Some buildings, especially in industrial areas, can get lousy with interference

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  13. Easy solution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wireless Networks Causing Headaches For Businesses

    A tin-foil hat. The problem goes away.

    (You want me to read the what?)
  14. Clarification by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's no good reason to use encryption in a corporate environment.

    I mean, there's no reason to use client-to-accesspoint encryption. Instead you should be encrypting directly from the client to the VPN gateway.

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  15. Some buildings just aren't "Wi-Fi compatible" by pclminion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have issues at home with this. The roof of my house is made of aluminum (not that cheap corrugated stuff like on a barn, but interlocking strips). This wreaks absolute HAVOC on WiFi signals inside my house.

    If I put an access point at one end of the house, I can't pick it up AT ALL from the other end. I'm not talking microscopic SNR, I'm talking ZERO SNR. It's like I don't even have an access point. I'm lucky to get a quarter of the rated bandwidth if I'm only one room away.

    For a while I had a ridiculous setup consisting of an access point and two repeaters just to get the signal to the other end of the house. TWO REPEATERS. That's THREE HOPS to travel about 100 feet. And of course, the concommitant loss in data rate due to the repeater action. After a few weeks of that (and even that setup was flaky at best) I said "Fuck it" and dragged a CAT-5e cable across the house. The wife hates it but at least I can use the Internet.

    I have no idea how exactly the metal roof is destroying the signal, whether it is causing severe multipath or simply absorbing it completely, but it does it quite effectively.

    1. Re:Some buildings just aren't "Wi-Fi compatible" by multipartmixed · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try putting your WiFi AP in your basement, on a floor joist. If it really is the roof that's giving you grief, that might be far enough away to weaken multipathed signals out of detection.

      You could also try decreasing the transmit power if you suspect multipathing. And, of course, lower the basic rate.

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  16. No, not duh by Poromenos1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's not the actual worst thing. I can handle all the "access from anywhere", that was what it's designed to do. The worst thing is when the access point sometimes decides to reset (I have a Linksys AP) and it reverts back to it's original, OPEN SETTINGS. I go to work one day and I notice that the AP changed its ssid back to "linksys", giving free access to everyone within the radius for the past week.

    Seriously, wtf.

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  17. Conference rooms by sczimme · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The gods know how many office conference rooms I have walked into where there are two power/data/phone outlets on the far ends of the room behind heavy credenzas, instead of in the middle of the room accessible from the table top.

    Conference rooms are often populated by guests. I would not be surprised if your local security policy states that guests are not permitted to connect to the company network: having no easily-accessible jacks can be a decent physical security measure. Of course, this requires that guests not be left unattended, etc.

    The placement of the credenza is either a calculated security move or a blunder of forehead-slapping magnitude, depending on your outlook. :-)

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    1. Re:Conference rooms by CthulhuDreamer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll go with forehead-slapping. Our company ordered all new furniture for the offices: big heavy desks with attached credenzas and file drawers, all with solid wood privacy panels pushed up against the wall jacks on three walls of each office. It took weeks to disassemble the furniture, rewire with low-profile plugs, then reassemble everything.

  18. WiFi isn't perfect, streaming video on .11 by maggard · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rules of WiFi:

    1. Determine needs. How many users in an area. What kind of usage?
    2. Do a site plan. Where will access points be placed. How will they be networked? How will they be powered?
    3. Test signal propagation. Are there competing nodes? Are there reflections/absorbers?
    4. Evaluate hardware. Is the firmware stable? Are the antennas good enough? How much heat does it produce/can it take? How is it all managed?
    5. Set expectationsof the IT staff, of the managers, of the users.
    6. Plan for hardware failures. I anticipate a 24 month lifespan of each access point, and plan for an up to 10% failure rate in any month.
    7. Monitor, both the internal networks and the general environment. Have a running watch of all access points with alerts for rogue ones, particularly dupes.

    Put in dedicated services for visitors with instructions conspicuously posted in conference areas (along with sufficient power supplies.) Inform staff if they are caught using these open systems their devices will be taken away, and if they relied upon such to do their jobs they will then be unsuitable for continued employment.

    Finally, consider alternatives to WiFi. There are any number of products that will carry WiFi-equivalent bandwidth over residential wiring. If youre looking to connect fixed devices without running ethernet then these are a no-hassle approach with competitive costs.

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  19. Am I the only one by DFDumont · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've done wireless assessments and installations for offices, hotels, school buildings (think bomb shelters) and even manufacturing plants. Anything IS possible, but not if you hire a kid recently graduated from ITT Tech(as an example only) to do it. I'd take a recent physicist graduate first because at least they would understand wave propagation. The use of tools such as Air Magnet make performing such an assessment easier, but a good tool won't fix ignorance.
    This actually begs of a greater question within IT - that of the influx of semi-trained, unskilled workers. Ours is the only profession without a professional organization. We have no entrance exam, no licensing structure, no board review.
    And DON'T tell me that Sylvan/Prometric certification in any sense means squat. I have no respect for a testing method wherein the correct answer is presented simply for the applicant to pick from. and YES I have them, many of them (MS, Novell, Solaris, Cisco) thus my disdain.
    I think we as a profession need to adopt some form of 'guild' structure. 2-yrs as an apprentice followed by a board review WHERE YOU ACTUALLY PERFORM WORK(Think the CCIE practical exam where you configure otherwise blank routers) [Yeah I have that too]. 5-yrs as a journeyman where you expand and deepen your skill followed by another board review to obtain a Mastery level in a particular discipline.
    The tradesmen have had this structure for hundreds of years. Lawyers, Doctors and Accountants all have an entrance exam.
    Why do we in IT think we're different.

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  20. Re:Security, security, security by computational+super · · Score: 2, Funny
    A wired network for desktops. No floppies. No USB. The sensitive files stay within the building.

    That doesn't guarantee security. If you really want to take security seriously, post snipers on the roof and have them shoot employees before they can make it into the building.

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  21. A well designed system doesn't have problems by Newer+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have designed many 2.4 gig WiFi systems that have none of these issues. First off, you have to consider the design of the area you want to use WiFi in. Lots of steel studs or concrete walls mean more access points (though I don't use AP's because routers are cheaper and can be used as APs). Generally speaking, you need an AP for every four 10x20 rooms and for every ten computers. Trying to use less AP's or more computers will create an overloaded system. Next, the quality of the AP's is paramount. As a minimum, I generally use Linksys or Buffalo equipment. Next, channel selection is important. Channels 1,6 and 11 do not overlap at all, and my experience is that channel 1 is lightly used. Channels 1.4.8 and 11 barely overlap, and can be used in bigger networks. I like to use channels 4 and 8 when I'm in an area where 1,6, and 11 are heavily used. If you use the same SSID for each AP, there will be almost seamless roaming between APs. I never use wireless repeaters-all AP's are wired back to the router. Yes it's more work, but the results are so much better! Finally, I use third party firmware on all routers, because I find it more stable then the firmware provided by the manufacturers. It also has the capability to be used for a field survey, which is useful to find any new wireless gear that's been installed lately.

    Of course, it goes without saying that encryption should always be used, the tighter the better!

  22. Re:More fear mongering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    mod be down you wankers

    Won't some kind moderator please help out this poor poster? If I had mod points, I'd gladly help. -1 Offtopic, before you could answer the question, "mod be down with what?"

  23. Bullshit by DJCacophony · · Score: 2, Informative

    VPNs require exactly the same amount of processing power on an access point as any other network application. The access point doesn't encrypt or decrypt anything on a VPN. All it sees are packets and frames, regardless of the application.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      VPN sessions are much more time sensitive than other applications. Any latency caused by, oh say, packet retransmission due to interference will cause the session to be invalidated. Try connecting a VPN through a satellite connection (HughesNet), or through an access point in an area with lots of other wireless networks overlapping. You WILL lose your connections. Heck, I've had problems using some dial-up services even.

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    2. Re:Bullshit by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you're doing that sort of thing, I strongly suggest getting a commercial mobile connectivity solution instead of relying on what comes with your OS.

      I can think of at least two Canadian-based solutions that would resolve the issue of intermittent connection loss without even letting your apps be aware of the issue.

  24. Some experiences.... by jonoton · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm in the middle of the 3rd generation of our wireless network.

    First generation was "Thick" access points individually managed.

    Second generation was the first generation of "Thin" access points.

    Third generation is "Thin" access points using CAP-WAP tunneling to a central management platform.

    For the First & Second generations we had consultants in to do surveys and radio measurements, we spent days roaming the site with radio gear and plans working out the best locations for the AP.

    That turned out the be as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    With the third generation (which is a forklift upgrade for the 1st & 2nd generation) we've gone with the scientific approach of "suck it and see". We ordered about 10% more access points than we had existing and when we've finished the install we'll go back round with our survey gear and fill in the dead spots.

    Things I've learned from trying to get this right:-

    Architects hate you They want the APs to be hidden, this is bad m'kay. Our second generation install we let the architects dictate where the APs could go. We've landed up with them 30' above the floor above a false ceiling. To maintain these we now have to close the building and get a cherry picker (which we're not allowed to use - it has to be a member of the facilities team) Outdoor coverage is a bitch. Lightning arresters, which are mandatory, cause significant loss as does "low loss" cable. Omni direction antennae are prety useless as generally you've got to mount them near a wall which nukes your signal. Directional ones are much better, but require more access points to get the same coverage. Things you wouldn't expect to impact the signal can bite you in the arse. UV filter glass (40db loss!), magnetic whiteboards, glass wall partitions. Out door it's even worse - forget it if you've got trees out there, oh and fog - fog kills the signal pretty dead. Never try to survey a building that's not there. This may seem obvious, but a lot of our installation had to be done from plans, so we had to estimate signal propagation - this doesn't work. Especially when the users of the building decided that what they really want is a nice metal mesh put into the walls, that really helps the signal. On the plus side - the 3rd generation ap & management station are making our life much easier. We can actually see where clients are now, and the APs know about each other and manage their radio intelligently (and it seems to work!)
  25. Re:Security, security, security by frdmfghtr · · Score: 2, Funny

    That doesn't guarantee security. If you really want to take security seriously, post snipers on the roof and have them shoot employees before they can make it into the building.
    No no no!

    You shoot them if they try to LEAVE the building...if you shoot them before they get in, they can't do any work.
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  26. Re:WiFi and business do not mix. by llefler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In warehouses, people typically use handheld devices, today. They're much, much, much more reliable than wi-fi.

    Nearly all of the wireless handheld devices used in warehouses have moved to 802.11. And it made life a whole lot easier when they did, no more proprietary protocols like we had in the 900 band.

    If they seem more reliable, it's because they tend to be low data rate devices. At least I've never seen a forklift driver browsing multimedia web sites on their 3"x4" screens. The lower data rate allows them to fall back to slower speeds to overcome a poor signal without annoying the user.

    BTW, if connectivity is important in a warehouse? With leaner inventories and management's desire for real-time information, I don't see how a modern warehouse could function without wireless devices.

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