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Music Industry Attacks Free Prince CD

Mike writes "You might not like Prince, but he's planning on giving away a free CD in a national British newspaper. Harmless publicity, right? The music industry disagrees. Executives are practically going insane over the idea and are threatening to 'retaliate'. 'The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behavior like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores. And I say that to all the other artists who may be tempted to dally with the Mail on Sunday,' said Entertainment Retailers Association spokesman Paul Quirk, who also said it would be 'an insult' to record stores. Shouldn't an artist be able to give away his own music if he wants to without fear of industry retaliation?"

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  1. Please retaliate. by daeg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more bad press you give us, the more ammunition bands have to never sign with you in the first place. Keep it up, you're doing a better job at killing yourselves than we music lovers could ever do!

    1. Re:Please retaliate. by Adambomb · · Score: 5, Funny

      So what you're saying is the more they tighten their grip, the more stars will slip through their fingers? =D

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    2. Re:Please retaliate. by Ngarrang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Prince is rich. He is content with his career. He was already in one tizzy with the labels and bolted, which made him more money. He became Prince again, made more money. He already owns his own recording studio. Okay, so he may lose a distributor or two. Prince has never shown himself to care about the NORMAL way of doing things.

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    3. Re:Please retaliate. by Stamen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I agree. I don't particularly like his music, but I'm inclined to buy a CD just to support him. If an artist with Prince's power, can't create some art, and give it away (or do whatever else they darn well please), then what hope is there for "lesser" artists to be able to enjoy their freedoms.

      I wasn't a fan before, but I am now.

    4. Re:Please retaliate. by sogoodsofarsowhat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Exactly. Who would not read this and think: 1) Big business record companies crying about this? 2) Little ole Prince...who is a man of the people. (He really has looked out for his fellow recording artists...and helped many escape the trap that is the RECORDING companies contracts.) 3) How will this tantrum help the record companies...it wont. Prince who was already a hero in my book for fighting the record companies and kickin their asses. (over his name / music)....is now approaching GOD status. I hope he does this again and again...and continues to PISS on the record companies. They have everything to fear from him. he does not NEED THEM AT ALL!!! and he is gathering new artists to the cause. He is getting their music made without the contracts for ownership of the musicians soul and he is breaking the mold. You may not like his music but as far as the man goes...there is little not to like. A lot think he was just an oversexed pop star...but truth is he is quite talented and very smart. Go Prince Go. I will do what i can to buy your music and your produced music. One last thing about the big record companies...you would think they would have learned that squaring off against Prince has been nothing but a dismal loss for them...yet they continue to act in ways that destroy them. As for the retaliation....BRING IT ON MFer's....I know Prince aint scared of you...and in a caged death match my moneys on Prince.

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    5. Re:Please retaliate. by brjndr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't particularly like his music, but I'm inclined to buy a CD just to support him.

      Yes, I too will buy this free CD.

    6. Re:Please retaliate. by Mistlefoot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't buy a lot of music from local retailers anymore either. Why bother when I can find much more of what I'm interested in online then I can locally. Part of that may be from be older and not as up to date on new releases or new bands as others are.

      I still buy though. Basically the way I see locals stores is this:
      They essentially 'ban' anything not very popular - hey, I realize you can't stock everything but when they don't carry music that I want I do look elsewhere. Local retailers in the UK ban Prince and do they really think that Prince fans will stop looking for Prince music? Prince fans will simply find another source for their music (iTunes or Amazon maybe) and quite possibly continue with that source in the future.

    7. Re:Please retaliate. by enjerth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Prince fans will simply find another source for their music (iTunes or Amazon maybe) ... or maybe to the Sunday paper.
    8. Re:Please retaliate. by sh00z · · Score: 5, Informative

      This gives me an excuse to go out and buy a CD I can expect to be decent, supporting a good artist AND tweaking the RIAA's nose simultaneously.
      It's not the RIAA (or the UK equivalent) that's protesting. It's the Entertainment Retailers Association, which stands to lose their "cut" of the profits arising from the sale of the CD's. I know the article saya "music industry," but it's not the usual part of the music industry that we all hate so much. It's the middle-men, whining.
    9. Re:Please retaliate. by Adambomb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps not, they've had time to review the mistakes of the past long long ago. You'll have to catch it under construction, blow up the shield generator.

      And if they start focusing unknown weapons of hip-hop music, be sure to shout "ITS A RAP"

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  2. Prince should say screw you by FictionPimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Prince should just open his own online store. Publicly announce he is no longer a member of the RIAA, and start selling his music online via his own channels. I'm sure he is rich enough to give them the finger.

  3. Key line by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    which is destroying any perception of value around recorded music

    "Perception of value"... that just about says it all, doesn't it?

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    1. Re:Key line by virgil_disgr4ce · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I want to scream in these executive's faces: "The value of music is not monetary."

      That's all there is to it. Music obviously can be bought and sold, and I don't care if you buy it or sell it. But the fact that these labels and businessmen cannot fathom a world in which it is not bought or sold is just disgusting.

      Markets change, douchebags. Everybody lives with it. But the real value of music isn't going to change as long as humans have ears.

    2. Re:Key line by Rinikusu · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Disclaimer: I'm a musician. I'd prefer people to buy my music rather than just download it for free because, obviously, I can use that money that they pay to do things like pay my rent, eat something other than ramen noodles, fix/replace equipment, and put gas in the van (not to mention maintenance). Touring is "where the money's" at, so people keep saying, and I keep seeing "touring" as a break-even proposition at *best*, and most artists, if you bother to ask them, will tell you they're losing money by touring. Unless you're pulling in thousands of people to see you where economies of scale work better for you, merch sales are "pleasant bonuses" which means I might can eat something that's not on the 99 cent value menu for a meal. Not to mention that this is with a pretty decent network of people to give up couches and floors to save on Motel costs. Now, at age 34, it's harder and harder to do these kind of tours. Let's face it: I'm not in the next Green Day or Metallica or whatever. Those guys are the exceptions. Even Fugazi (who make a small mint touring and on record sales) are exceptions to the rule. The vast majority of working artists are not rich. We rely upon our friendships and networks to keep us fed and sheltered when we're out on the road. We all have to quit jobs after saving up a small wad of cash just to tour, and once we get back, we come back to stacks of unpaid bills, eviction notices, storage room fees, unfaithful significant others, and the realization that the drummer (guitarist/bassist/etc) is a fucking prick and have to kick him out and look for a new one. Touring bands rarely keep jobs for more than a few months (imagine how that looks when you're applying anywhere), rarely have time to "improve skills" for better paying jobs (say, programming), and generally have a really tough time. Many bands break up during tours due to the fact that once you're in close proximity with your bandmates 24/7 for months at a time, stuffed in a van, sleeping next to each other on a cold, hard floor, and that every character flaw is magnified due to lack of proper sleep, nutrition, and stress. Not everyone can hack touring constantly.

      And those of us who can, well, we generally love what we're doing. It's worth it.

      So, from the artist's standpoint, I want you to buy my music. I want you to pay the $5-$10 we charge at the door and come see us because that $5-$10 really just gets us to the next show. Hell, I want you to buy a T-Shirt for $10 (HA!), a bunch of stickers ($1), a button ($1.50), and give the band a blowjob, because, well, I'm selfish that way.

      But, if it comes down to strictly exposure, I want everyone to experience my music, whether they pay for it or not. If someone finds my music on Limewire, I want them to get it and hear it. You'll find most musicians have the same notion. /ranting at work (at least I have a decent paying tech job to support my losing effort)

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  4. Don't think so by Bombula · · Score: 5, Funny
    'The Artist Formerly Known as Prince should know that with behavior like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores.

    "The executive with an attitude like this should know that his outlets will soon be The Buildings That Used To Be Record Stores"

    Fixed that for ya.

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  5. Nothing like admitting it by overshoot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I love it -- they're actually foaming mad enough to publicly admit that they're engaged in a conspiracy in restraint of trade based on blocking artists' access to radio and retail.

    Should make for utterly gripping testimony in the antitrust lawsuit under Sherman Act Part One.

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  6. So what? by sasdrtx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let the "industry" expose themselves for the idiots that they are. They're well on the way to irrelevance. Why would anyone want to slow them down?

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  7. RIAA at the Quicky Mart by A10Mechanic · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're going to party like it's on sale for $19.99 !! Thank you, come again!

  8. An Insult? by alanw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... Paul Quirk, who also said it would be 'an insult' to record stores. Record stores? If the recording industry is genuinely interested in record stores (as opposed to on-line sellers of bit-streams or supermarkets selling just the top 20), why has yet another chain of decent record shops closed today in the UK? Perhaps he really means "a danger to my company's profits".
  9. Whoda thunk? Prince "gets" the revolution! by maillemaker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    >The eagerly awaited new album by Prince is being launched as a free CD with a national Sunday
    >newspaper in a move that has drawn widespread criticism from music retailers.
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    >Prince, whose Purple Rain sold more than 11m copies, also plans to give away a free copy
    >of his latest album with tickets for his forthcoming concerts in London

    Clearly, Prince gets it. Digital Content is no longer an object to sell itself, as it has no value anymore, but is merely an attraction to attract consumers to purchase other things.

    I think this is the mainstream start of the beginning of the end for people who have traditionally sold digital content to consumers. Those days are rapidly drawing to a close. With content so easily copyable, it's economic value is virtually zero. So there is no place for selling digital content to consumers anymore.

    BUT, you CAN sell your digital content to an advertising firm, who will use it as flypaper to attract consumers to buy physical things.

    This is precisely what Prince is doing. He isn't giving away his content for free. he's sold it to a newspaper company that will give it away to get people to buy (physical) newspapers, and he's giving them away to people who buy physical tickets to his concert.

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  10. Its the same reason he changed his name... by Tmack · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Anyone that knows Prince and the reason for his name change, knows he changed his name was because of the record labels. He did it in protest of their ability to control him and his music and his name. He wanted to free himself from that control so he could do what he wanted as an artist rather than as the label's shill. He has always been against the record labels after originally signing with one and finding out the hard way what they are all about. He changed his name back after his contract with them ended, but has continued as an independent and always fighting against the labels. This is just another example of his battle, and seems to have already accomplished part of its goal: expose the labels for what they truly are, greedy self-proclaimed overlords of all music.

    Tm

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  11. Re:No by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's fine if they want to not invite him to the RIAA BBQ or something. Even tear up his membership card. It is not okay if they use their cartel to put pressure on other businesses, like retail stores and radio stations. That's pretty much exactly the behaviour that antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

  12. In a word, no. by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shouldn't an artist be able to give away his own music if he wants to without fear of industry retaliation?

    If you're asking this question, then you don't understand who you are really dealing with.

    The music industry thinks they own ALL music. Not just the RIAA affiliated bands - all music, EVERYWHERE. My proof? SoundExchange. They are demanding royalty fees for all music streamed over the net from net radio - and get this - from EVERYONE. Doesn't matter if you're a member or not, they will collect on your behalf in preparation for the glorious day you elect to join the Borg. Until then they're happy to bill people for all music, everywhere.

    The music industry thinks it owns all music. Everywhere. If there was a way to drill a tap into your head and bill you every time you think of a song, they'd do it.

    So yeah, Prince, having the audacity to make a song and give it away clearly goes against everything these morons believe. I wouldn't be surprised to see them ban him completely.

    In response - we, the public - should buy every single thing Prince makes. After he releases it over the net independently. Money straight to the artist with no insane middlemen. This could be where it starts.

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  13. Re:where to start? by cunamara · · Score: 5, Funny

    (BTW, I believe he is once again the artist known as Prince... it'd be nice for the industry to keep better tabs on their talent)

    Yes, he is now The Artist Fomerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Prince. He's now called "Prince" for short.

  14. Re:No correction needed by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the difference:

    Stolen music becomes more free.

    Stolen code becomes less free.

    What we care about is the freedom of information. The law is just an expedient to secure that freedom. When the law becomes injurious to that freedom we must break it.

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  15. Re:where to start? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    disrespectful to record stores? Hwah? How? Because they don't get to sell the CDs Prince decided to give away? I recently gave a camera to a friend... should the local camera shop be angry? I dinged their sales!

    Replace "camera" with "music," and "local camera shop" with "giant media conglomerate," and the answer, I think, is yes.

    It seems that in the past 10 years or so, many corporations have decided to treat anything that denies them revenue as if it's identical to actually taking something they already had. Personally, I think it's an effect of the type of cash-flow accounting and projection that's now overwhelmingly popular, where the entire worth of your business (read: stock price) is based on how much money you think you're going to make. When it turns out that, oops, you didn't actually make that much money, they go absolutely berzerk and start looking for anyone to pin the blame on. Because, to them, they've already made that money, in some weird way, as soon as they started projecting it.

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  16. Re:No correction needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare you link to my website as your own? You jerk.